I have to agree!! So what stops the next person coming in the store from buying another one just to breed?
All you did was make room for another poor puppy and continue to let his mom be bred to death and so the cycle continues. What about his mom? Did you save her from being bred over and over or did you just contribute to it and continue her suffering?
I'm sure she is just as sweet and she deserves a loving home where she won't be bred to death. But you just bought her puppy prolonging her suffering.
Sorry if that is harsh, just want to get the point across. I feel the parents are all too often overlooked and it is so sad.

I bet it would be shocking to do a study to see how many people bought a puppy from a pet store because they felt sorry for it and wanted to rescue it. Do you realize how often this happens? That is exactly the wrong thing to do.

Just imagine if everyone thinks that way, they are fueling the puppy mill business. As long as they sell pups even just because people feel sorry for them they are staying in business and more and more pups will replace that one.

I just can't help thinking of that poor puppy's mom. She will continue to be bred and more of her pups will come and replace that one puppy you rescued.

I know you let your heart win over your head but that's not the right thing to do in this situation or the puppymill industry will always thrive.

With all that said, I really am happy that you gave him a wonderful home. I have no doubt that he will be very loved and spoiled and well taken care for. I am sure he is very grateful and happy to have you as well. I hope you have many wonderful years together.

Yes you did save one puppy from a potentially bad situation but my heart just breaks for all those others who will take his place and the poor parents that continue to suffer.

The other alternative is this puppy could have been euthanized.

At $180.00 I don't think anybody made money from this sale. At least the pup won't be bred.

There are exceptions to every rule.

we can kinda hope not...but then again i don't know that petland vets their pups very well so they still might have made a meager but mighty little profit on him. $180 is a steal of a deal for a purebred pup, and when i really take that part into consideration, though i still wouldn't have personally done it, i do understand that it was either she pay for it, or someone else was bound to step in and grab that deal and the pup's life might have gone terrible off track. also previously mentioned was just euthanizing and counting it as lost inventory...pet stores just suck! They really do. i went to a place just last week thinking that it was a dog boutique. we walk in and i'm amazed at their beautiful treats and things...then i look up and low and behold hybrid "designer" dogs for 500-800 for sale. and what's worse, this place was owned by vets!! it's in Missouri and Kansas called Land of Paws...AVOID it.

sometimes i just feel like it will never end. there are so many millions of people out there blind to the fact that this is a huge problem. it's the same with many other major crisis issues in American and World politics. there's always a somewhat simple solution...but the road is paved in thorns and it's not easy to get to the end with all the difference of opinion out there.

i'm sorry if i seemed rude. i saw petland and it made me cringe. so i lost my cool and spoke my mind. i don't mean to be upsetting to the OP, it's not her fault that these stupid stores are still in business and while i wouldn't recommend even walking in their doors ever again, you did what you thought was right and i'm glad he's home and has someone to care for him.

You went in to this knowing what you know, and following your heart to do what was right for THIS pup in front of you. Yes, we need to stop puppy mills from producing more puppies, but we also have to do right by the ones who are already here.

I wish you and Kobe much happiness with your new addition.

ETA: post pics when you can. I'm sure he is as adorable as Kobe.

I've got to say, I just love your enthusiasm, and I really know you will be the type that spreads the word, education is the key here, and more and more people know that they shouldn't buy from pet stores. However, people are still buying from the Internet, remember that commercial breeders who sell directly to the public and through websites do not even have to be inspected by the USDA, so they are often much worse than the USDA breeders who sell to pet stores.

By the way, makes me so angry that vets would own a pet store that sells designer dogs, Missouri is doing many things now in trying to pass better legislation, you are in a state where people are taking action to bring about better conditions for dogs. I hadn't heard of Land of Paws, I like to learn more about it, maybe we can help put it out of business.

i'll tell you one thing it's been a bit of a strange battle here in good ol' MO. i've got a long time member of my hometown and someone I truly care for and support in congress right now only he's fighting for the "other side" you see we live in rural MO and a lot of the bills that should/could help put a stop to mills and commercial breeders also add a nasty little tag onto them about cattle and livestock. so naturally where we come from this congressman doesn't want to support those bills. if they were written well to only stop commercial breeders it might get voted for, but there's always those darn riders on them...

and the hardest part is...i'm mostly republican, but in order to support shutting down commercial breeding i almost need to vote democrat in MO, so we'd get more done in the battle with dogs, but less done in other things that we small town farmers and business people need.

it's always a catch 22 in everything in life. you can't have it both ways. it's so hard to know where to stand when everyone i know up here would prob. vote against anything that stops their incomes via breeding. no one wants to support a bill for better treatment of dogs in breeding facilities because it costs them more money on their kennels...so they shoot it down and sometimes though i'd never understand why they breed at all, i kinda understand how hard all the changes would be on them...if commercial breeding was 100% iradicated around here there would be a lot of people without any income and things could get really really downtroddin for them. no one should breed dogs to make a living or to support their families, but unfortunatley around here that's exactly what they are doing. vets are breeding around here no different and no better than a BYB. it's horrible and it's hard to stomach, but it's here and it's everywhere.

all we can do is work hard to not support it, no money or time goes to those types of people and we'll fight to stop it all somehow.

About Us

Land of Paws.

and adding onto the stuff about legislation, what I see happening is that a bill that should help with commercial breeding of dogs tries to go way to deep into PETA action and doesn't do anything but get shut down because i can guarantee you most Missourians will not support anything that's got PETA written all over it. we need to tackle the issues of dog breeding and stop trying to control or rid of farming and raising livestock at the same time.

Sad, it says it started out as:

An upscale dog and cat store offering the most exclusive pet supplies, toys, treats, pet apparel and boutique items for a pet owner and their pets delivered with extraordinary customer service. Ten years later in 2003, Kristen Daly and Catelin Carey approached the owners, wanting to expand the business and open a second location in the affluent suburb of Overland Park, Kansas. After years of experience working at the flagship store, and armed with recent advertising and communication degrees, Kristen and Catelin felt they were ready for the challenge. In July 2003, their dream became a reality and the second Land of Paws was opened. They continue to carry on Land of Paws’ tradition of over the top customer service, distinctive merchandising and trendsetting product selection for dogs, cats and their owners.

I would agree as well. There is always that exception to the rule.

The other newest scam is brokers that will take the pet store cast off and sell them posing as a rescue. They pray on those wanting to support rescue but are not well informed, take their money and sell them overstock at a cut rate.

To the OPer~good luck with your new puppy. :)

kobe has a brother..don't be mad
 

Let me tell you, I bought a Yorkie 4 mos. old at a pet store...he had a few things wrong with him but the vet took care of him with medication...the pet store reimbursed me for the medical...well my Lucky lasted for 13 1/2 yrs...he was fine with my giving him all the good food and love...I miss him so much...I am glad that I saved him from being sent back to where he came from...the best years of my life...you take care of your new love...Ruaga

I got my Mia from Petland and I can assure you that they might not have made money off of this pup but they got it off of another one. They don't loose money! They'll sell the tiny ones for $2,000-3,000 so that it covers the expences for the others that may be left for a longer period of time.

Congratulations on your new baby! Please share pictures when you can. :)

Rachel, I am very impressed the way you have grown. You have kept an opened mind to listen and learn. Great Job.

I understand why some members are giving you a hard time, this is only because they care about the puppies! They are right as long as the puppies are in demand and are making them money they will keep breeding them in the puppy mills.
But then I also understand how over hearing someones plans for this puppy made you want to save them, It must have been a very hard decision to make and I know your intentions were good.
What's done is done and you now need support with your new furbaby.
Take him to the vet and get him checked over and keep a close eye on him, and most of all good luck x

omg how harsh can you be..I do realize what you mean, but ya know many others have saved like yorkies from being sold over the internet on places like puppyfind and were called hero's..even to getting full breeding rights on them..
Until places like petland are in buisness they will always have puppy mill puppies.. so many should really go after closing down pet land..I am sure it can be done with a lot of noise..

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I can't stand PetHell but if I heard someone talking about a poor dog in that place for breeding and trying to make 'extra' money - especially kids - I don't know what I'd have done in her place - since it was pointed out that the cost was so low - no they didn't make money and she won't be bred - but it still stands to reason we just can't buy from petstores - but too many do and will until it's stopped

I heard San Fransisco is trying to put an end to selling live animals in Pet Stores - it was just on the news the other morning - that in itself is pretty amazing but the Puppy Millers will just find other avenues I think until the laws geared to THEM change.

all the best with this puppy.

Villette your so right and I believe their is a how coming up on the animal station and they are actually naming petland.. so maybe this is a good start on shutting them down.. for if they are shut down then what do puppy mills have..
I am not sure what I would have done in the same situation neither.. I had puppy mills and we have one province in Canada that has no puppy mill laws.. and that is very sad tooo..
But I think if enough time and energy was spend just maybe pet land could be either shut down or no pets for sale allowed..

Love this suggestion!!

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And as a few others have posted.....would love to see pics!!

San Francisco is attempting to stop all selling of animals. Breeders, Pet Stores, etc. doesn't matter. They are a bit over the top and very leftist.....Now this is a city that has removed all Vending Machines from the city for health reasons. According to them because of obesity in children. Now does that make sense. If you want a Pepsi you have to leave the city....but they have Marajuana stores......go figure. It's kind of like you can't pray in school, but the first thing they hand prisoners in prison is a bible...

A good start in not supporting puppy mills/byb'ers is the law that passed in North Hollywood. Banning Pet Stores from selling pups/kittens any type animals.

Every time I read about Pet Land I get a knot in my stomach, since I know that is where my Roxie was purchased by her previous owner. I don't go into pet stores that sell puppies (and thankfully the one in our mall recently closed down) and do not want to support puppy mills. I wish these places could be closed down, or at least prohibited from selling these puppies.

As a previous poster said, I probably would have done the same thing in your position. I wish you the best of luck with your new addition! Please post pics soon!

From what I heard on the news - San Fran is trying to go this way to force people to adopt and rescue because of all the animals being neglected and ending up in shelters and/or being euthanized -- at least that's what the news said - If anything - it is an eye opener for anyone who is unaware of the big problem we have and what pet stores are all about. I never heard they were trying to stop breeding though

I would never buy from a pet store. But saying that, I'm not sure if I was in the OP shoe's would I have walked away? And I agree with Mardelin that if they are letting puppies go for $180, they aren't making money and it means that we are getting the word out there and people are starting to staying away from pet stores. I don't hold it against the OP either, she did what she thought was right and who are we to say? It's not like she was looking to buy a pet store puppy, she just happened into the situation and got emotionally involved and felt the need to get this pup out of there. I guess I can understand. And finally, I think it's good that Rachel feels so strongly and I don't think she's a hypocrite either. We can all make mistakes and learn from them. It sounds like she's learned from her situation and would not repeat it. However, maybe she could remember how she felt in that situation and she posted on here and got strong harsh comments and maybe she could put herself in the OP's shoes just a little bit.

I, too, don't know if I could've walked away knowing others were going to try to buy the pup for the sole purpose of breeding and making money. I feel she rescued this poor dog from an unspeakable kind of life...used for breeding and not feel the love Ericka will give him.

Ericka, I hope you will post pictures of your new little guy and tell us what you have named him. Please don't stay away and not let us know how he is doing.

Dyan

Okay so i was out in town this morning and we have a petland so i stopped in to ask what happens to puppies that are too old to stay in the store. The woman told me that if a puppy dose not sell the "clear it out to make room for more stock" she would not go into details but im sure we can imagine what that means.

I can honestly say that I would NOT have done the same thing and the reason is, I just plain do NOT step foot into any store that sells dogs.
I know if I did, then I would probably find myself wanting to do the same thing.

I just can't bring myself to go into stores, shelters, etc.. I just want to rescue them all and it breaks my heart.
Lucky for me I really don't shop at stores where I have to walk by pet stores and be tempted or to hear people talking about breeding the animals they just saw in the store!

I think it is wrong to support puppymills as well, but I do feel that she has prevented a repeat process with him. He was going to be purchased for the purpose of reproducing and making money. If we look at it this way, what she did was shut down a BYB before they had the chance to do further damage. Good luck with your new baby and I think "Clearance" would be a good name for your baby.

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:pIF YOU ARE HAVING A BAD DAY, JUST LOOK IN THE FACE OF YOUR YORKIE AND EVERYTHING WILL BE OKAY!!:p

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: Sorry Rachel but I totally agree you shouldn't be talking because you were schooled for a while before you made the choice of bringing Sadie home. IMO that's worse then what this lady did. She bought a puppy in the heat of the moment which isn't right but it's not like we told her DONT DO IT for weeks and then she went and did it anyways.

You did what you did with an open mind and and open heart.
A pup will have a great life.
What is done is done and go make the best of the newest member of your family.
I wish him long life and good health and a ton.
Enjoy.

JL

I think I would have done the same as you. If you hadn't bought him, someone else would have. Congrats on your new baby! Can't wait to see pictures!

I look at it this way....Kobe's Mom may have in the long run supported Petland and puppy mills but at the same time prevented another case of uneducated back yard breeders.

I think if faced with the same decision to make, I may have done the same. I would have felt really guilty if I left that pup knowing that those kids may have got to him with the intention of using him as a money making machine.