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05-04-2010, 01:24 PM | #1 |
YT Addict | I Feel Like a Warden Can someone please tell me why it is necessary to keep my puppies confined in a crate 8 hours a day in order to housebreak them?? My babies have done nothing except cry for 2 days and it is killing me!!!
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05-04-2010, 01:40 PM | #2 |
Donating YT 4000 Club Member | I bought the book, too. From what I've gathered from it, they don't need to be in a crate, just confined to a small area (like a kitchen or bathroom). The author makes a good point in the beginning of the book- we confine infants to playpens during the time we aren't sitting right beside them. It's no different for dogs. Of course, ask me in a day or two and I may feel differently. |
05-04-2010, 04:09 PM | #3 |
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| I know many people make use of crates to house-train but I could never do that to my babies. I did, however, confine them to two rooms, my kitchen and adjoining den, the two rooms we use the most. I could watch them and direct them to the pad quickly but they were still able to be with me and follow me around like they want to. To each his own, but I couldn't and didn't want to walk around a small crate all day and know my puppy was in there not understanding why. Even when I worked, I kept them in the kitchen, confined but loose. JMO.
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05-04-2010, 04:27 PM | #4 |
Phantom Queen Morrigan Donating Member | i don't know what the book says that your reading but i was very strict with Morgan when she was a baby. She had a crate and an ex-pen. The crate was for when i was at work or when we were sleeping. the expen was for when i was home but couldn't watch her for whatever reason. She was on a strict food/potty/play schedule. First thing in the morning when i woke up i took her outside. When we came back in it was breakfast time. I fed her in her ex-pen and then left her in there for 15-20 minutes. After that time period we went outside again to potty. I always took her out on a leash so she knew we were on a mission instead of a play date. I took her to one area, said go potty, and then waited for her to do her stuff. I'd stand there for as long as it took, sometimes 30 minutes in the pouring rain, but we did it (with the aid of an umbrella). After she did her business she was allowed 30-60 minutes free roam play time. After a rigorous play she'd need to go back outside to pee usually. Then i'd put her in her pen for a nap. when she woke up it was back outside, then play or eat, depending on the time. that how the day went until bed time. i'd take her out right before i went to sleep and she'd sleep a good amount of time. Usually she'd wake me up at 4-5am to potty. I'd take her out for a quick potty without really talking to her (besides go potty and good girl) or getting her excited. After she pottied it was back in her crate to sleep some more. Then when i woke up we'd start the whole process all over again. after a while i eliminated the crate and she'd sleep in her ex-pen. I only eliminated the crate when she was able to hold it all night long and not mess in her crate when i was at work. I used the ex-pen for at least a year and a half when i was out and at night time. Eventually i took the ex-pen down and put her crate back out. Now she has her crate/den available to her whenever she wants and she has free reign when i'm not home. she's 100% potty trained and only very rarely has an accident when she's sick.
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05-04-2010, 06:25 PM | #5 |
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| I don't think a crate is totally necessary all the time but it depends on everyone's situations. They can be GREAT and I wish Jackson was crate trained but it didn't work for us. I was really lucky that I got Jackson in winter of '08 when I was off on winter break from college, so I had a whole 4 weeks to be with him solely. We had a really great schedule for a long time and we did use the crate in the beginning... I would place the crate on my bed and he would sleep in it, he woke me up around 3-4am to potty, then we'd wake up again at 7:30am to go potty again, then he'd get 30 minutes of play-time but only in the 1 room where I could watch him 24/7, then we'd go back to bed until 9:30ish, and when I left the house, I'd put him in his crate while I left. Then after a few weeks, we moved up to the expen, then locked in my bedroom. But anyways my point is I had a really consistent schedule with him in those first few weeks where we did the same thing every single day. He's had free roam of the house since about 4 1/2 months old and never once has he had an accident while we're not home or chewed anything (he had accidents when we WERE home of course) and I call him 99.9% potty trained. He will occasionally poop in the house still maybe like once every 2 months and it's usually when it's raining outside or something! But you can get thru it. Potty training days are tough!
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05-04-2010, 06:28 PM | #6 |
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| I absolutely cannot imagine keeping my dogs confined to a crate for any length of time. They are confined to 2 rooms when I am not home, but otherwise have the run of the house. Yes, I've had to clean up messes and one of mine sees all throw rugs as pee pads. But gosh, keeping them confined that long seems punishment; how can and why would they want to learn? Seems like they'd be so excited to be released, they'd pee for joy! Sorry, crates are just not for me. With my first yorkie, I was going to go it right, bought her a crate and instructed husband and son that whoever left the house last, to put her in there. Well, that worked until I was the one that had to put her in there and then let her out again 8 1/2 hours later. She was never put in there again. |
05-04-2010, 06:45 PM | #7 | |
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05-04-2010, 06:55 PM | #8 | |
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That's not the right way to crate train. I'm not a real advocate of leaving them in a crate for 8+ hours either. You put them in the crate and take them out at intervals (play, eat, potty) throughout the day! I do know that people leave them in the crates all day while they're at work, but IMO a better solution is to get an x-pen and create a little area (bed on one side, potty side on other, possibly a small food and/or play area also) for them. | |
05-04-2010, 07:18 PM | #9 |
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| You only have 5 days left and then you can tell us if it really works! Hang in there. On a more serious note, I really do feel sorry for you. But, hey, if it works, it's worth it.
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05-04-2010, 07:38 PM | #10 |
YT Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: w.leisenring pa usa
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| I feel your pain..we were using an ex pen that was working perfectly until she learned how to jump out of at at only 12 weeks old...So now we are using the crate..and yes it sucks..lol but I have no choice, I tried confining her to just one room. but she is a big time chewer, and I have a lot of electronic and she loves cords, she already destroyed one lap top cord. so needless to say, if I cant watch her every move when she is out, then she has to go in to the crate until im done being busy. and she most defiantly has to sleep in it, or lord knows what she would find to get into.,,but I just keep reminding myself that it is for her own safety..so I know exactly what you are going through...hang in there.
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05-04-2010, 07:46 PM | #11 |
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| I have never crate-trained mine to potty train them. I was lucky enough to be home when we got the pups so that I could stay with them during the day, and let them out every 2 hours. However, when I did leave them, I left them in an xpen so that they still had free space to move around in with potty pads down; and in the kitchen as it has hard floors. That way I knew that they at least could move around for those few hours I was gone. |
05-05-2010, 05:25 PM | #13 |
YT Addict | Yes, today was better. mainly because I was gone most of the morning. I did put them in the laundry room with a baby gate, so they had a little more room. This afternoon I had my grandchildren and we were outside a long time this afternoon. Of course I had the puppies outside with us. I hope I didn't mess anything up by not having them confined as much as I am supposed too.
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05-05-2010, 05:37 PM | #14 |
Crazy about Kacee! Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kansas
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| I doubt you messed anything up. You're not superwoman and they aren't prisoners. Good luck tomorrow.
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05-05-2010, 06:04 PM | #15 |
YT Addict | Thanks for your support...
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