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sherry dee · 10-24-2005, 07:14 PM

Ok has anyone ever experienced this.....I bought my baby her first harness and leash today she went crazy me trying to put it on her. She growled bit my hand s and acted terrible or that a puppy thing or do I need to just over power her? She is the same way about brushing her, which I have done 3 times a day since I had her but she still hates it. Cutting her nails is impossible she wiggles and growls and bites my hands, I correct her by saying NO!!! real hateful but doesnt help. Does anyone else have a baby 10 weeks old like this? what should I do?
I might add she likes to be held and cuddle too so its no that she isnt used to being handled

RowdysMom · 10-24-2005, 07:20 PM

I didn't have this problem with Rowdy, but I remember several posts from people who did have this kind of problem with their little one - I'm sure someone will answer you pretty soon. Good luck with your baby - you do need to be able to put the harness on and teach her to walk on the leash - it's a necessity that they learn this skill.

lily's mom · 10-24-2005, 07:28 PM

Yep, sounds like you have a yorkie. Welcome to the club. They all have individual personalities but still pretty much behave like this. Lexi (eensor) has been posting how her mommy tortures her with the comb for months now. I don't know that there is a simple solution except to keep with it and be the boss.

mylittletigger · 10-24-2005, 09:29 PM

I had that problem with Tigger. what I do now is close his mouth everytime he goes to bite me and say no really stern. It took him a while to catch on to what I was trying to have him do but now he knows. just be really persistent, show him who's boss, and afterwards give tons of love and kisses. also while your brushing them if they do something you like, tell them good boy even during the tinist of moments. and when they miss behave say bad boy. this way they begin to learn what is expected of them. also, I would suggest getting him used to having his teeth brushed. don't give up, you will win, it just takes a lot of time. tiggers four months now and still attempts to fight me, but in the end I always win.

YorkieShadow · 10-24-2005, 09:55 PM

Mickey dosent bite me but he does fight me some times when I brush him.

RowdysMom · 10-25-2005, 03:52 AM

Oh, I just remembered something that helped Rowdy with brushing. He never was bitey when I brushed him, but he was squirmy and tried to get away. I discovered that he loved to have his back scratched - so I would sit with him on my lap and he would sit on his hauches facing away from me (so that his back was towards me) and I would curve my fingers so that my fingernails raked down his back. I would just scratch and scratch his back like that. He absoultely loves it and will sit motionless on my lap till I quit doing it. So.......I decided to see if I could transfer that positive experience to brushing. My brush has long metal prongs with a little ball at the end of each prong on one side and the other side is just like a hair brush. So, I thought maybe I could replicate fingernail scratching experience with the metal side of his brush and sure enough I did it. He loves to be brushed by that side of the brush as long as I rake it down his back over and over and over. Of course, if I hit a knot or tangle, then he gets squirmy, but if that happens, I just revert to the "back scratching" with the brush and then he calms down, I praise him, and then I can eventually go back to working on the knot. I just do lots of "back scratching" as I move from his back to his sides to legs to tummy, etc. I have to stop periodically and go into the "back scratching" so that he will be still and I can praise him. It takes time and patience, but he is sooooo much better with brushing now than he used to be.

susansmom · 10-25-2005, 04:45 AM

Susan has been very cooperative about things but both of my mom's dogs have been wigglers and brushing objectors. Mom is nutso about having her dogs corrected, so I can't really do anything about either one of them. But they do both behave for me though not for her. I read somewhere that dogs prefer the person in the house with the most self confidence, so I try to be very gentle and self confident with Mom's dogs -- like I KNOW what's best for them and if they disagree it's just because they're silly. Just that attitude seems to help. And then I'm just gently persisent. Mom gets almost hysterical if you force one of her dogs to do anything (wonder what she imagines happens at the groomer?) so I can't persisent for very long at a time, so I have to do it frequently. But the older one now loves to be brushed and will tolerate just about anything from some people-- which is very good because she's a 140 lb lab -- and the younger one, the Yorkie, is coming along. The lab used to be so bad Mom was thinking of getting rid of her, but truthfully, now she's practically a dream dog except on the rare occasions when she gets her back up about something. Fortunately, my father is firmer about a few things and has a very forceful presence. Nevertheless, inside he's probably a bigger marshmallow over the dogs than my mother and they know it.

amanda350 · 10-25-2005, 05:27 AM

Tucker is a biter when it comes to brushing. He only cries when I change his clothes, but he will sit there. I got him at 8wks and he is now 13wks. He used to be really bad about biting me and yelping when i tried to brush him and I was very gentle. He was also dragging his butt sometimes so I took him to have his anal gland expressed and he has done so much better. Sometimes their glands can get impacted and that makes their bottom area sore. Now when he snaps at me instead of actually biting, I will lay him on my back in my hand and firmly tell him No. Within seconds, he will get real still and look at me like I am so sorry.. After that, the rest of THAT brushing session is fine.. Then we start it all over again...Soon he will catch on... How long have you had your girl?

Sugar's Mom · 10-25-2005, 05:47 AM

I am having the same issue with CXeeby. he doesn't bite or even growl at me but he fights so hard to get away whenever I try to do anything for him. He is twelve weeks old and wasn't like that when I got him at eight weeks. I think it is because my husband gave him his last puppy shot a couple of weeks ago. He screamed like he was dying and ran from us all that day and has been skittish ever since. I am hoping he will soon forget the shot. I brush him while holding him with one hand and one side at a time. Course he never looks really brushed because his little hair is almost like a porcupine. it sticks right back up at this stage.

susansmom · 10-25-2005, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by amanda350

How long have you had your girl?

I'm not sure if you were talking to me or someone else, but Mom and I got our Yorkies at the same time; they're littermates. We got them at 11 wks in late August.

Toffee · 10-25-2005, 06:26 AM

Toffee hates being brushed as well! He'll growl and bite me. I couldn't find anything that worked so now I give him treats while I brush him and he doesn't fuss anymore.

sshaw · 10-25-2005, 06:35 AM

Patience, patience, patience! Dennis went nuts the first couple of times, but truly got to understand the importance of it. I know it sounds funny, but when he saw Murphy, my friends Boston, wait at the door for his leash to be hooked up he was after this point very cooperative. He wanted to be a big boy too!

However, I think it is important not to frighten them, just be stern and give them a lot of praise when you finally get it hooked up and a word to the wise, “Don’t leave the collar on them if you can avoid it”. Dennis a few weeks ago now almost choked on it. If I was not there I am sure he would have killed himself in a sheer panic. I now leave it on his leash and at the door hook him up.

The same goes for the grooming, patience and lots of treats and kind words. I make a big fuss and tell him how beautiful he looks and he eats it up, of course the treats help. Especially in the beginning try not to pull or tug on the knots, I think it can slow down their willingness to enjoy the whole process. After a while they get to enjoy it.

Hope this helps

Sue

happygolucky · 10-25-2005, 07:14 AM

Not sure if this will work for you, but since I got happy at 6 1/2 weeks she was at first a little more difficult to train. But what I did was slowly introduce her to both. I would get up, feed my kids, make my coffee, feed her, then put her harness on. The first week she found one way or another to pull a leg out or wiggle out of it. And yes she tried to chew on me and the harness. But now she knows after breakfast she puts her harness on. And its helped with the clothing issue as well. She will wear a jacket, sweater, shirt no problem because I got her used to wearing her harness. The leash was a little trickier. I started with one of the expandable leashes (not sure of right name) that way she didnt feel like I was tugging on her. At first I let her have free reign. Then day by day decreased her freedom by allowing less and less leash. Now she walks with standard leash and harness and she just turned 9 wks. So it can be done. But you have to adhere to doing this routine everyday. No gauruntees that it will work but it's worth a try! Hope it helps and good luck with your baby!
Kelley
P.S. I don't use collars. We tried a collar (cuz I didn't know any better) and everytime on a leash she would choke and gag and I became so paranoid about her trachea collapsing I just feel more comfortable with harnesses. Best of Luck!

Carolina girl · 10-25-2005, 08:05 AM

It is important to find a treat that they will do anything for. Have these treats handy. Mine never gave me that much trouble but she will do anything for a treat. When I cut her nails she gets a treat after each foot. As far as the harness goes thats pretty normal just leave it on him while you watch him. You may want to put the leash on him when your not busy and let him drag it around. But always remember treats that they can't live without is the key to getting them to do something for you.

10-24-2005, 07:14 PM	#1
sherry dee Donating YT Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ikes fork wv Posts: 372	My baby is out of control!! Ok has anyone ever experienced this.....I bought my baby her first harness and leash today she went crazy me trying to put it on her. She growled bit my hand s and acted terrible or that a puppy thing or do I need to just over power her? She is the same way about brushing her, which I have done 3 times a day since I had her but she still hates it. Cutting her nails is impossible she wiggles and growls and bites my hands, I correct her by saying NO!!! real hateful but doesnt help. Does anyone else have a baby 10 weeks old like this? what should I do? I might add she likes to be held and cuddle too so its no that she isnt used to being handled __________________ Sherry Dee "Hayleys Mommy"

10-24-2005, 07:20 PM	#2
RowdysMom Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Central Texas Posts: 2,624	I didn't have this problem with Rowdy, but I remember several posts from people who did have this kind of problem with their little one - I'm sure someone will answer you pretty soon. Good luck with your baby - you do need to be able to put the harness on and teach her to walk on the leash - it's a necessity that they learn this skill. __________________ Rex & Rowdy's Mom

10-24-2005, 07:28 PM	#3
lily's mom Lily Loves Maximus Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,633	Yep, sounds like you have a yorkie. Welcome to the club. They all have individual personalities but still pretty much behave like this. Lexi (eensor) has been posting how her mommy tortures her with the comb for months now. I don't know that there is a simple solution except to keep with it and be the boss. __________________ Lily and Dawn

10-25-2005, 03:52 AM	#6
RowdysMom Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Central Texas Posts: 2,624	Oh, I just remembered something that helped Rowdy with brushing. He never was bitey when I brushed him, but he was squirmy and tried to get away. I discovered that he loved to have his back scratched - so I would sit with him on my lap and he would sit on his hauches facing away from me (so that his back was towards me) and I would curve my fingers so that my fingernails raked down his back. I would just scratch and scratch his back like that. He absoultely loves it and will sit motionless on my lap till I quit doing it. So.......I decided to see if I could transfer that positive experience to brushing. My brush has long metal prongs with a little ball at the end of each prong on one side and the other side is just like a hair brush. So, I thought maybe I could replicate fingernail scratching experience with the metal side of his brush and sure enough I did it. He loves to be brushed by that side of the brush as long as I rake it down his back over and over and over. Of course, if I hit a knot or tangle, then he gets squirmy, but if that happens, I just revert to the "back scratching" with the brush and then he calms down, I praise him, and then I can eventually go back to working on the knot. I just do lots of "back scratching" as I move from his back to his sides to legs to tummy, etc. I have to stop periodically and go into the "back scratching" so that he will be still and I can praise him. It takes time and patience, but he is sooooo much better with brushing now than he used to be. __________________ Rex & Rowdy's Mom

10-25-2005, 05:47 AM	#9
Sugar's Mom BANNED! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 9,248	My baby I am having the same issue with CXeeby. he doesn't bite or even growl at me but he fights so hard to get away whenever I try to do anything for him. He is twelve weeks old and wasn't like that when I got him at eight weeks. I think it is because my husband gave him his last puppy shot a couple of weeks ago. He screamed like he was dying and ran from us all that day and has been skittish ever since. I am hoping he will soon forget the shot. I brush him while holding him with one hand and one side at a time. Course he never looks really brushed because his little hair is almost like a porcupine. it sticks right back up at this stage.

10-24-2005, 09:29 PM	#4
mylittletigger YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,216	I had that problem with Tigger. what I do now is close his mouth everytime he goes to bite me and say no really stern. It took him a while to catch on to what I was trying to have him do but now he knows. just be really persistent, show him who's boss, and afterwards give tons of love and kisses. also while your brushing them if they do something you like, tell them good boy even during the tinist of moments. and when they miss behave say bad boy. this way they begin to learn what is expected of them. also, I would suggest getting him used to having his teeth brushed. don't give up, you will win, it just takes a lot of time. tiggers four months now and still attempts to fight me, but in the end I always win.

10-24-2005, 09:55 PM	#5
YorkieShadow BANNED! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: USA Posts: 9,999	Mickey dosent bite me but he does fight me some times when I brush him.

10-25-2005, 04:45 AM	#7
susansmom YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Harrison, AR Posts: 347	Susan has been very cooperative about things but both of my mom's dogs have been wigglers and brushing objectors. Mom is nutso about having her dogs corrected, so I can't really do anything about either one of them. But they do both behave for me though not for her. I read somewhere that dogs prefer the person in the house with the most self confidence, so I try to be very gentle and self confident with Mom's dogs -- like I KNOW what's best for them and if they disagree it's just because they're silly. Just that attitude seems to help. And then I'm just gently persisent. Mom gets almost hysterical if you force one of her dogs to do anything (wonder what she imagines happens at the groomer?) so I can't persisent for very long at a time, so I have to do it frequently. But the older one now loves to be brushed and will tolerate just about anything from some people-- which is very good because she's a 140 lb lab -- and the younger one, the Yorkie, is coming along. The lab used to be so bad Mom was thinking of getting rid of her, but truthfully, now she's practically a dream dog except on the rare occasions when she gets her back up about something. Fortunately, my father is firmer about a few things and has a very forceful presence. Nevertheless, inside he's probably a bigger marshmallow over the dogs than my mother and they know it.

10-25-2005, 05:27 AM	#8
amanda350 No Longer A Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Tennessee Posts: 986	Tucker is a biter when it comes to brushing. He only cries when I change his clothes, but he will sit there. I got him at 8wks and he is now 13wks. He used to be really bad about biting me and yelping when i tried to brush him and I was very gentle. He was also dragging his butt sometimes so I took him to have his anal gland expressed and he has done so much better. Sometimes their glands can get impacted and that makes their bottom area sore. Now when he snaps at me instead of actually biting, I will lay him on my back in my hand and firmly tell him No. Within seconds, he will get real still and look at me like I am so sorry.. After that, the rest of THAT brushing session is fine.. Then we start it all over again...Soon he will catch on... How long have you had your girl?

10-25-2005, 06:26 AM	#11
Toffee Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NY Posts: 123	Toffee hates being brushed as well! He'll growl and bite me. I couldn't find anything that worked so now I give him treats while I brush him and he doesn't fuss anymore.

10-25-2005, 06:35 AM	#12
sshaw YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: vestal Posts: 1,289	Patience, patience, patience! Dennis went nuts the first couple of times, but truly got to understand the importance of it. I know it sounds funny, but when he saw Murphy, my friends Boston, wait at the door for his leash to be hooked up he was after this point very cooperative. He wanted to be a big boy too! However, I think it is important not to frighten them, just be stern and give them a lot of praise when you finally get it hooked up and a word to the wise, “Don’t leave the collar on them if you can avoid it”. Dennis a few weeks ago now almost choked on it. If I was not there I am sure he would have killed himself in a sheer panic. I now leave it on his leash and at the door hook him up. The same goes for the grooming, patience and lots of treats and kind words. I make a big fuss and tell him how beautiful he looks and he eats it up, of course the treats help. Especially in the beginning try not to pull or tug on the knots, I think it can slow down their willingness to enjoy the whole process. After a while they get to enjoy it. Hope this helps Sue

10-25-2005, 07:14 AM	#13
happygolucky Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Silverdale WA Posts: 72	Help with Harness and leash Not sure if this will work for you, but since I got happy at 6 1/2 weeks she was at first a little more difficult to train. But what I did was slowly introduce her to both. I would get up, feed my kids, make my coffee, feed her, then put her harness on. The first week she found one way or another to pull a leg out or wiggle out of it. And yes she tried to chew on me and the harness. But now she knows after breakfast she puts her harness on. And its helped with the clothing issue as well. She will wear a jacket, sweater, shirt no problem because I got her used to wearing her harness. The leash was a little trickier. I started with one of the expandable leashes (not sure of right name) that way she didnt feel like I was tugging on her. At first I let her have free reign. Then day by day decreased her freedom by allowing less and less leash. Now she walks with standard leash and harness and she just turned 9 wks. So it can be done. But you have to adhere to doing this routine everyday. No gauruntees that it will work but it's worth a try! Hope it helps and good luck with your baby! Kelley P.S. I don't use collars. We tried a collar (cuz I didn't know any better) and everytime on a leash she would choke and gag and I became so paranoid about her trachea collapsing I just feel more comfortable with harnesses. Best of Luck!

10-25-2005, 08:05 AM	#14
Carolina girl YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Aiken, South Carolina Posts: 320	It is important to find a treat that they will do anything for. Have these treats handy. Mine never gave me that much trouble but she will do anything for a treat. When I cut her nails she gets a treat after each foot. As far as the harness goes thats pretty normal just leave it on him while you watch him. You may want to put the leash on him when your not busy and let him drag it around. But always remember treats that they can't live without is the key to getting them to do something for you. __________________ Love is... when your puppy licks your face even though you left him alone all day! Izzabella and Cindy