Originally Posted by Heather of BFB (Post 3181397)

It's very hard for me to believe very many are envolved with this. Maybe I believe too much in the best of people, but I think most of their membership has to be snowed. I can't honestly make myself believe they would stay if they knew the truth. I think most of us just love our dogs, want to make healthy babies, and share them with the world.:cheer:

Originally Posted by kpstoybox (Post 3181407)

What I find odd is the deafening silence coming from the BTCA membership. No posts on their own board defending themselves, or blaming this on someone else. Very strange....

Originally Posted by scrapindee (Post 3176124)

From: Brooke Bridegum [mailto:iabcaofamerica@yahoo.com]

Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 12:26 PM

To: undisclosed recipients:

Subject: IABCA and Int'l Dog Shows: Fraudulent National Title Diploms



Note: Only International All Breed Canine Association National Titles signed Gayle Pruett and/or Myrna Torres are affected by this problem so far.


Warning to All Biewer Breeders and Owners:

It has recently been brought to our attention by several Biewer owners that there are some “National” Titles issued to Biewer owners that contain false information. It appears there are some National titles issued to Dogs under the heading of International All Breed Canine Association of America, having the Logo of International All Breed Canine Association of America (IABCA) and the UCI logo. The problem is that it appears the titles are signed listing Gayle Pruett as the President of IABCA and Myrna Torres as Secretary of IABCA. This is incorrect and people getting such titles have been misled. In fact, neither woman has ever worked for IABCA, nor have they ever been an officer of IABCA. Therefore any National Title with International All Breed Canine Association of America heading that is signed with the two above mentioned women are not valid titles. Again, to identify these titles make sure the top of the title states International All Breed Canine Assoc. of America and carries the IABCA logo, and is signed naming either person (Gayle or Myrna) as IABCA President and/or Secretary.

There appears to be an additional problem with some of these titles. They seem to have also been issued incorrectly. It appears that puppies have been issued the adult National IABCA title. Puppies cannot be issued the adult titles. There are puppy National titles that are issued corresponding to their age at time of earning said title. The puppy titles clearly state National Baby; or National Jungsten; or National Jugend and National Junghund. Not just the word National Title Diplom. If your National Title from IABCA is signed by Jeff Bridegum as President and Brooke Bridegum as Secretary there is no problem. These titles are valid.

Investigation:
We at the IABCA are investigating the problem and what actions need to be taken. We need to know if there are others involved in the issuing of these false and incorrect titles. If you have any information regarding this matter we would appreciate your contacting the IABCA either by email (by replying to this letter) or by phone to Deb Bridegum at (503) 580-1838.

Solution: We do not want our exhibitors to be left holding an invalid title. If you hold one of these problematic National Titles wrongfully issued from someone other than IABCA, signed by Gayle Pruett and/or Myrna, IABCA intends to help you correct this problem.

Replacement of fraudulent titles:
IABCA will help you correct the problem title. You will need to send the original false title to us at IABCA:

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You will also need to send $10.00 to have your title replaced. (You need to keep a copy of the incorrect title for further actions, you must send us the original.) We will then issue valid and correct National Titles and the appropriate National Puppy Titles.

We hope that the wronged exhibitors are able to receive a refund from those that issued the invalid IABCA National Titles. If you wish a letter from IABCA stating your title was wrongly issued we will be happy to provide one once we receive the original invalid National Title signed Gayle Pruett and/or Myrna Torres.

NOTE: This E-mail was sent to current members showing at IABCA. If you are showing, or know someone who might not now be showing please advise them of this problem.

Thank you.

Originally Posted by Disney (Post 3181559)

So...A yorkie that comes out with colour fault is not purebreed, but any other fault and they merely pet quality? How does THAT work?

Sorry to offend Parti people, but I no know how to explain how I feel that silly thing to say any other way.

Originally Posted by evab (Post 3181597)

All my Yorkie's are Pets. We have no Parti/Tri coloured pure bred Yorkie's in the UK....your point? They are American/German deisgner dogs in my book. Colour fault? Yorkie's are Blue/Tan/Gold in tradition and origination...UK Yorkie's seem to be more Steele Grey/Serle/Tan/Gold. def NO White with Black saddles on their backs. FACT :aimeeyork

Originally Posted by tatertot (Post 3181561)

I did recieve this email from IABCA and was not forward from someone else. Why you didn't recieve from them perhaps you didn't recieve a title from them? ARBA in not involved yet. Why did they sent this via email to any who have shown in this venue? To look for fake titled issue by THEM.. Excuse me how many Biewers do you have in United Kingdom? You are a part of the Biewer United Kindom Club that is newly formed? Or are you actually in Al.???? Tarnish another club reputation(BTCA), they do that well enough on their own! Sooner or later the truth always catchs up! Have a Blessed Biewer Day...

Originally Posted by Disney (Post 3181599)

A purebreed yorkie can carry the parti gene. Two standard blue and tan yorkie can produce a parti pup. It is colour fault. Not a designer dog. Designer dog is mutt crossbred dog.

Also, I thought you no reply because you felt so justified in your case? :confused: I just wanted to make sure people didn't think parti/biewer are mutts attempting to pass off as yorkie.

Originally Posted by evab (Post 3181610)

That my dear is your opinion to which you are entitled, as I am mine... there are NO parti pure bred Yorkie in the UK. The originating country for your beautiful little dogs? why is that do you think? and lets not go into the culling thing again pls, streamglen it's a tiring argument also without foundation.

I do not feel the need to use the word justified in my replies, ALL dogs are mutts, it is the way the word is percieved that upsets people. I have a cross bred dog...classed if you like as a mutt...dictionary explanation....it makes no difference to me...she is beautiful....I love ALL animals...I strive for making their world a better place for them to live in...be treated humanely by all and most importantly be loved.

Originally Posted by Disney (Post 3181620)

First of all thanks you for responding so politely! :) My English is not the best and I know these topic get very heated and appreciate you being friendly. Make me not afraid to express my opinion! Hehe

We don't have parti or Biewer in Australia either, those lines not being bred as of yet.

I did not mean you didn't reply, it just when you first posted you say if anyone contest your opinion you not reply because you so convince you correct, so when you reply I was confused is all. :)

And I agree, all mutts, all purebreeds and all animal are gorgeous!

Originally Posted by Breezeaway (Post 3181639)

No one has stated anything but the facts on here about the BTCA.
FACT: Gayle and Myrna Issued Fake Titles
FACT: Gayle posed as a DVM to the MARS company
FACT: Gayle lied about a lawsuit against the IABCA.
Shall I proceed?

Originally Posted by Breezeaway (Post 3181639)

No one has stated anything but the facts on here about the BTCA.
FACT: Gayle and Myrna Issued Fake Titles
FACT: Gayle posed as a DVM to the MARS company
FACT: Gayle lied about a lawsuit against the IABCA.
Shall I proceed?

Originally Posted by Breezeaway (Post 3181639)

No one has stated anything but the facts on here about the BTCA.
FACT: Gayle and Myrna Issued Fake Titles
FACT: Gayle posed as a DVM to the MARS company
FACT: Gayle lied about a lawsuit against the IABCA.
Shall I proceed?

Originally Posted by Biewer4luv (Post 3181678)

If as Gayle/BTCA claims that there was a lawsuit/judgement last year against the IABCA where she was awarded $30k, then will someone please tell me WHY she/club held their BTCA Specialty show with them in Orlando in May, 2010? Hogwash!
Those that have showed with the IABCA in the USA did receive the email about Gayle and Merna. I'm guessing about 100 people.
Many have not believed what GP has tried to spoon feed us and shove down our throats and have seen her true colors several years ago.
About 20 women walked away from her back "group" in August of 2006...for a reason of not agreeing with her poisionous tactics.
Since then those women and anyone not in her "group" were victims of her malicous attacks. Several good breeders/fanciers were destroyed in her process of trying to get to the top. That is sad that those "good" people were lost from the breed that only wanted to help and protect the breed, not injure it.
Her history has shown that if you had a puppy to place, according to her, you were evil and breeding LS so that she could then place a puppy herself.

Originally Posted by Breezeaway (Post 3181639)

No one has stated anything but the facts on here about the BTCA.
FACT: Gayle and Myrna Issued Fake Titles
FACT: Gayle posed as a DVM to the MARS company
FACT: Gayle lied about a lawsuit against the IABCA.
Shall I proceed?

Originally Posted by evab (Post 3181921)

I am sorry Wanda, but there seems to be some personal agenda here! A "Witch Hunt" is what we call it in the UK. It is ugly and not at all in the true spirit of what this forum should be all about. There will be no good breeders lost...this is your assumption and guess......as any one who is truly committed to the well being and betterment of the breed...no matter what is said will continue on their own path. To act as Judge and Jury here on this site is very upsetting and uncalled for.

Originally Posted by evab (Post 3181995)

D: Who in their right mind would sign their own name to a fraudulent document? If a person were going to forge titles, do you really think that person would sign their own name to them. (except ofcourse if you are DP), but that's another story.........

The BTCA were given permission to issue National and International titles by the UCI. There is nothing fraudulent in that. People showing with the IABCA show venue were given orange cards giving them the right to receive a title.
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Please people use your own judgement...don't be fooled by Witch Hunters. Do your own research...as I have....and I am are quite aware that many club's have made untrue statements on their own sites, have they not D::aimeeyork Tut Tut

Originally Posted by Heather of BFB (Post 3182010)

I guess what suprises me is your interest. Do you take it upon yourself to stand up for every bad situation or breeder on this forum? You've already made your sentiments known here and on the pedigree database. Why are you actively searching out threads that pertain to this issue to make your statesments known. I mean, we got the gist of it in your first announcemnt. Are you trying to put out fires? It seems as if you have a personal interest in this thread. What gives? I'm not trying to upset you, but I'm just wondering about your motivation. Mine is finding out the truth and making sure this doesn't happen again.

This is suppose to be a place where people can find out what to be leery of when purchasing a puppy, a place to ask questions, and share good times as well as bad. There are plenty of posts warning potential buyers to beware of certain kennels.

It's already been said that the majority of the members of this club are probably great people, good breeders, and they have the right to know if there is questionable activity with their leadership. This is a direct reflection of what they are a part of. They need the opportunity to make educated decisions and do the research for themselves.

I mean you said on an earlier thread that you don't even own a Biewer, don't even believe in their history, so what's it to you? Why do you feel such a need to defend what you don't even believe in? How do you know everything here isn't the truth? Are you a friend of the persons in question? Where is the proof that everything mentioned here is false? I'd love to see it because I'd LOVE for it not to be true. This hurts the breed and places distrust in all of us. The truth is, there is just too much out there to not question it and inform people. I don't know the whole truth, but when you hear of false titles from the show venue you show at... that's straight from the horse's mouth so to speak. That's enough for me to want to share with others that there is a threat.

Originally Posted by Breezeaway (Post 3181639)

No one has stated anything but the facts on here about the BTCA.
FACT: Gayle and Myrna Issued Fake Titles
FACT: Gayle posed as a DVM to the MARS company
FACT: Gayle lied about a lawsuit against the IABCA.
Shall I proceed?

Originally Posted by evab (Post 3182042)

This forum as you say is just the place to find out about the good and bad in purchasing a puppy, and covers many topics of great interest to us all. It should not however, be the place for Witch hunting? or personal agendas.... I have never said any other....I have the right to go on any forum I choose (heather?) and find it a little perturbing that you are following my posts on pedigree database? What are my personal interests etcetcetc....why do you take such an interest? You want to make sure...What does not happen again? There is no evidence except idol gossip here that anything untowards has happened is there? I have not said I do not believe in their history...sorry you have this wrong....I have researched into the BT and made my own conclusions, chosen my own clubs to support or not. I am a member of many Forums, surely I am entitled to be? I will not allow myself to be quoted falsely sorry, or allow personal attacks upon myself as happened on Pedigree Data base by members, whom it seems use many different user names? I have an email with the word "What Gives" it is very uncanny that u use the same exact words...ummmmm By the way there is no heather user name on pedigree database, who has taken part in my threads?

Originally Posted by evab (Post 3181995)

[I]D: The BTCA were given permission to issue National and International titles by the UCI. There is nothing fraudulent in that. People showing with the IABCA show venue were given orange cards giving them the right to receive a title.
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