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06-18-2010, 07:09 PM | #1 |
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| Are Yorkie and Silky Terriers a lot alike? I've been wanting to get a Yorkie and was given a phone number to what I thought, was a lady who had a female Yorkie for sale. When we started talking though, she corrected me when I said Yorkie and said that she actually has "Silky" Terriers. Can anyone tell me if they are a lot of like both in looks and temperament, etc.? And, another quick question for tonight is ... Do both Yorkie and Silky's ears normally stand up or are they cropped to do that? And, how old would they have to be before one could tell if the ears were going to stand up? I like the looks of them standing up better than flopping down. Thanks so much for any and all help ... I know I'm going to have many, many questions over the next few weeks and am grateful that y'all are here for me! Dee Jaye |
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06-19-2010, 06:40 AM | #2 |
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| Yorkies and Silky's are often confused with each other, for a few reasons. A Yorkie's hair is often called 'silky' so people get confused, thinking they are the same breed, etc. They look sooo similar. And there is so many backyard breeders and puppy mills shelling out these dogs (since Yorkies are so popular) so the breed standard is often not met. Yorkies come in all shapes and sizes and just because a Yorkie is larger does not necessarily mean he's not a Yorkie. Yorkies used to be bigger back in the day so some just carry that gene still. A yorkies parents can be under 7lbs but a pup might end up being 10lbs or larger, it's so hard to know or guess. Here's a good comparison: Home of the Gorgeous Silky Terrier!! - Compare the silky to.... I tend to think my Jackson is a Silky or atleast Silky/Yorkie mix maybe but I really don't know. He was sold to me as a Yorkie. He's 16lbs and to me has the body of a Silky more, but maybe more of a Yorkie face. Properly bred silky's and properly bred yorkie's are easier to differentiate. Another problem, I've heard of alot of folks that use Silky Terrier females to breed with Yorkie males because a Silky is larger and may be less complications so that's another problem is people going around selling Silky's as Yorkies. The Silky Terrier is a true "toy terrier". He is moderately low set, slightly longer than tall, of refined bone structure, but of sufficient substance to suggest the ability to hunt and kill domestic rodents. His inquisitive nature and joy of life make him an ideal companion. The keenly alert air of the terrier is characteristic. The manner is quick, friendly, and responsive. Approximate size of a Silky is 9 to 10 inches at the shoulder height. They are of a fine bone but maintain muscle and strength of a much larger dog. They do not think they are small but a large dog in a small "suit." The Silky may not be the breed for every home. You must be willing to add another intelligent being to your family as a Silky can be much like having a toddler child loose in the home. They do not like being neglected or forgotten and if left alone for too long a time they will find entertainment that may not be to your liking! A Silky isn't hyper but they do have tons of energy and love to play fetch, go for long walks and in general, be involved in whatever the family is doing! They are loving but independent in nature. They are not generally what are considered 'lap dogs'. Small children do not do well with a Silky due to terrier nature. Food in the hands of small children is fair game for a Silky as well as chasing their feet when they run. Silkys are mistaken for Yorkies sometimes, but they are much more like their cousin the Australian Terrier. First pic is Silky is show coat.
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06-19-2010, 07:13 AM | #3 |
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| First off~~~~Welcome to YT I had never seen a Silky Terrier prior to attending a dog show last year. My only Yorkie is a big girl at about 11 lbs and I have had people stop me and insist she was a Silky just because of her size. After see many Silky's at the show I can tell you that a Yorkie and Silky look totally different. Their body are proportions differently, their heads have a different shape and they really do not look anything alike when they are Show quality. BUT then you also have to understand that how a Yorkie will look as an adult also depends upon who your breeder is and if they are breeding to standard. Just because you purchase a Yorkie does not necessarily mean you are going to end up with your idea of what she will look like as an adult. Make sure you do a lot of homework and research on your breeder prior to making your decision. Owning a Yorkie is a very long commitment that should be taken very seriously. Here is a very good checklist of what to include in your search. Good luck! http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...ead-first.html
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06-19-2010, 07:39 AM | #4 | |
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Yes, Welcome to YT. This is so true. I would like to add, if you have your heart set on a Yorkie, don't "settle" for a Silky as they are completely different dogs. If you are unsure, you should do some research to find some reputable breeders of both breeds and go visit with them about their dogs. You will learn a tremendous amount and clearly see that there are obvious differences. Congrats to you that you are asking questins before getting a dog/puppy. My Moka is registered (NOT AKC) as a Silky terrier, but I am more convinced she is a Silky, Yorkie mix, sold as a Silky. (Silkies are popular here) Just like Yorkies that are not standard, Moka is smaller than the standard Silky at only 7 lbs, has round Yorkie eyes set wide apart rather than Silky Almond shape set closer together, and Yorkie Hair and color, although a poor coat, but her body and ears scream Silky. Poor thing, doesn't really look like either breed specifically, but words cannot express how much we love her! LOL.
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06-19-2010, 08:13 AM | #5 |
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| You can definitely tell the difference, especially in the shape of their heads. And if you ever want to impress a Silky owner and look like a total expert when it comes to dogs, walk up and compliment them on what a beautiful Silky they have and watch their jaws drop as they ask you "How'd you know she's not a Yorkie?!?!" That's happened to me twice. Been out at the petstore, saw Silkies, and that was their owners' exact response both times. |
06-19-2010, 08:34 AM | #6 | |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | Hi and welcome to Yorkietalk, you got a lot of great answers, but to your question about ears: Quote:
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06-19-2010, 09:54 AM | #7 | |
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06-19-2010, 10:01 AM | #8 |
Yorkie Lover Donating Member | We have both yorkies and silkies.......and they are very different. I have one yorkie breed very close to standard and one that is way off standard. I have three silkies that are all AKC champions. Here are the things I notice having both living in my home: Yorkies - round eyes, toy face, more square body (closer to same height was length of back), smaller (but not always), longer hair but silky,and blue/gold coloring. Silkies - almond eyes with dark rim, longer face, more rectangular body (longer than tall), slightly bigger, hair should not touch the ground but is silky and are tri-colored - lighter gold/tan topnot than face and blue body can range in shades. Temperment wise......these are my observations with my group. My yorkies tend to less spirited than my silkies. My silkies enjoy spending more time outside than my yorkies....exploring their surroundings. All of mine love to bark and are great protectors and all of mine love to be close to you if not in your lap. At times I think the silkies are easier to train (they certainly were for potty training).....but then they have also been show dogs and started with command training much earlier. Health wise......my yorkies have many more health issues than my silkies. Silkies do not struggle with things like liver shunt, LP and as many stomach issues......but again that can go back to breeding! There are many, many healthy yorkies with no issues out there......and I am sure there are silkies that do have issues. But as a "breed" there are differences, but there are also big differences in the number of dogs in each of these breed. I recommend either....but recommend buying from breeders that beed to the AKC standard!
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06-19-2010, 12:19 PM | #9 | |
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06-19-2010, 12:44 PM | #10 | |
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Concerning health issues, I just believe that has to do with the popularity of the Yorkie, the higher they are on the popularity charts the higher they are on the health problem charts. Too many breeders start breeding not for the love of the breed, but just to make money.
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06-19-2010, 12:49 PM | #11 | |
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06-19-2010, 01:36 PM | #12 |
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| silky terriers originated from yorkshire terriers when cross bred with austrailan terriers.Once you see a well bred silky the difference becomes very obvious ...Temperment is simliar in both breeds.
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06-19-2010, 01:47 PM | #13 | |
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Okay so since I recently adopted a silky from a rescue i now understand a bit more of the difference. my yorkie is 5.1 lbs. she is taller, longer legs, different facial structure. she is more "dainty" beautiful very expressive, hyper and sweet. she's all toy, all baby, all little. my male is a silky, 8.1 lbs and growing (needs to put on more weight he was rescued) he is very muscled, short legs, long body. different snout. he runs like a little bear with almost a hockeny gait. his feet are wider, legs are muscled. he's all terrier. yes silkies are in the toy group, but to me they hold to a terrier more than a toy. yorkies are less muscled more beautiful and he's just all terrier big ol' boy. i love him to pieces but yes they don't like to be left out. he'll whine when he's penned up. he loves his sister and wants to be with us and her all the time. he sleeps a lot and when he runs and plays it's always full speed. good luck deciding between the two breeds. while they are similar in color and size, shape is different and personality is different. they are both amazing to have around. a note about getting a dog: do your research, look up EVERYTHING you have questions about and ask away on here. really look into a breeder. don't settle for a pup from someone shady, be sure you go see their living environment and if they don't show you the puppies home don't get a pup from them, they have something to hide. a purebred yorkie will cost you a pretty penny from a reputable breeder so rescue might be a better option both for finances and because i have found that rescuing is the MOST rewarding experience and i was blessed with the perfect dog. don't be fooled by a breeder, keep on your toes and really watch em' there are many scams out there that are wolf in sheep's clothing. if it looks questionable avoid it and ask us we're good at sniffing out BYB and puppy mills. i can't wait to see what you choose and watch you and the new little one grow together in learning and love on here. thanks for finding us...let us know what you decide. | |
06-19-2010, 01:54 PM | #14 |
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| Wow, you guys really have me thinking. I've been trying to figure out Cody's true breed. I got him from a couple who had purchased him from a BYB (they were re-homing him because their other dog wouldn't accept the puppy). I contacted the original BYB and they sent me pictures of the parents and said they were Yorkies. Cody is 4-1/2 months old and isn't registered as his father was brought to the US by the family from South America. Cody definately has his mother's body and facial features which look like the Silky that has been discussed. The father is supposedly about 5 lbs and the mother is 10 or 11 lbs. Cody already weighs 9 lbs at 4-1/2 months. Frankly, we don't care what he is as he is our adorable baby but I'm curious. Thanks for bringing up this thread as I didn't even think about a silky. |
06-20-2010, 05:02 PM | #15 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: PA
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| I, first, want to thank you all for your warm welcomes and also for all of the help - I so appreciate it! What I've decided to do is to call the lady who has the puppy, tomorrow or the next day and ask if I can go and see the mother and father [and the puppy too, of course!]. I want to be able to visually see myself, how much bigger a Silky looks than a Yorkie and especially the parents of the one I want to get. From what I read here on the boards though, if some people had theirs and didn't know that they were a silky and not a Yorkie then I'm thinking that most people probably couldn't tell the difference, right? What is going to be very hard on me is that the puppy is 10 weeks old and in my lease, I can't have it here until it's 5-6 months old. :-( I'm going to ask the lady who manages our building if there is any way that I can bring her home early. See, in the lease - it says we have to have the animals spayed or neutered before it is allowed in the building and the youngest the vet will do it is at 5 months of age. But, what I'm thinking is ... it's not going to hurt to ask if she'd let me bring her home maybe next month and then get her spayed as soon as she's 5 months old, I mean - the worse she can tell me is "no." It's not like she'll be around other animals and also she won't be out of my sight 'cuz either she'll be on a leash or I'll be holding her. I'm praying that she'll say "yes" 'cuz otherwise it's gonna seem like a very, very long wait, ya know what I mean? LOL Dee Jaye |
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