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Kris Christine · 06-19-2010, 05:58 AM

Statement from Dr. Margo Roman sent in Support of AB 2000, "Molly's Bill"

As a California licensed veterinarian who has been practicing for 32 years, I am concerned about the health and well-being of my patients and protection of my clients. I am very concerned about the rabies vaccine. I have seen very serious reactions from the vaccine. My own personal dog, a 17 month old Standard Poodle “Wailea” was given a second rabies vaccine at 17 months and went into liver failure and facial myositis. She eventually lost all the muscles in her head as her eyes were sinking into their sockets and she eventually died.

I had taken a rabies titer (an antibody blood test) on my dog just for information at the time of the vaccine and it showed 10 times more protection than needed for a rabies response. Since the rabies vaccine is only 86 % effective and that means 14% of the animals vaccinated do not have protection. My dog did not need that vaccine but I gave it due to the law and it eventually killed my dog.

My dog's antibodies were protecting her from the deadly disease of rabies and giving her another vaccine did not make her more protected but instead drove her body into an auto-immune reaction attacking her own body.

I received my own rabies vaccines in 1974 and was told in Veterinary School that I should never just blindly get vaccinated but should titer every other year and see if my titer had dropped. If my titer dropped below the level then I should get a booster. Under no circumstances should I just blindly get a booster as it can cause auto-immune issues. As veterinarians, we are required to do that. The vaccine has hazardous effects. With 46 % of dogs and 39 % of cats now getting cancer, giving an unnecessary rabies vaccine is very dangerous to the pet.

Vaccines are strong immune stimulators and can work negatively on the immune system. Titers are the best way to see if vaccines are effective protection and they should be an accepted evaluation of a pets protection from Rabies.

Margo Roman,DVM
Main Street Animal Services of Hopkinton

Margo Roman, DVM
MASH Main St Animal Services of Hopkinton
Hopkinton, MA 01748
508-435-4077 fx 508-435-5533
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dwerten · 06-19-2010, 06:07 AM

Kris thanks for posting this as my dog has autoimmune disease as she has hypothyroid and atopic dermatitis and it all started after her puppy shots at 6mos of age. Prior to that she had no itching whatsoever

I just do not understand if they titer for rabies in humans why we cannot in dogs to keep them safe from disease.

Kris Christine · 06-20-2010, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by dwerten

Kris thanks for posting this as my dog has autoimmune disease as she has hypothyroid and atopic dermatitis and it all started after her puppy shots at 6mos of age. Prior to that she had no itching whatsoever

I just do not understand if they titer for rabies in humans why we cannot in dogs to keep them safe from disease.

You're welcome. I hope that your little one is doing okay.

Part of the studies The Rabies Challenge Fund is financing is to establish a rabies titer standard for dogs. The one currently used is the standard set for humans by the World Health Organization, and it is then extrapolated to other mammal species.

dwerten · 06-20-2010, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris Christine

You're welcome. I hope that your little one is doing okay.

Part of the studies The Rabies Challenge Fund is financing is to establish a rabies titer standard for dogs. The one currently used is the standard set for humans by the World Health Organization, and it is then extrapolated to other mammal species.

That is good to know as Jean Dodds does all our titers and blood work -She is the best

Kris Christine · 06-21-2010, 02:09 AM

Dr. Dodds is the best!

dwerten · 06-21-2010, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kris Christine

Dr. Dodds is the best!

she really is - she is the most passionate person I have met in dealing with the veterinary profession and so thankful for her as I feel like she really cares.

Kris Christine · 06-23-2010, 07:25 AM

CALIFORNIA AB2000 UPDATE: Yesterday, with Saulo Londono and AM Curt Hagman, representatives of all the interested parties from the government agencies and California Veterinary Medical Association, including Dr. W. Jean Dodds from The Rabies Challenge Fund met via telephone conference. Draft amendments to the bill will NOT include quarantine, and I will post an update as soon as that rewording is available. The Senate Health Committee meets today.

Kris Christine · 07-02-2010, 03:38 AM

CALIFORNIA Medical Exemption Bill AB 2000 Senate Health Committee Votes DO PASS 6/30/10 AB 2000 Assembly Bill - Status amended language not available yet, so we are not sure precisely what wording passed.

The bill has been referred to the Committee on Appropriations.

Kris Christine · 07-15-2010, 07:07 AM

CA Rabies Medical Exemption Bill AB 2000 -- Senate Appropriations hearing set for 8/2/10 AB 2000 Assembly Bill - Status

Please contact the members of the Appropriations committee below and ask them to fully fund AB 2000

Senator Christine Kehoe (Chair) senator.kehoe@sen.ca.gov Phone: (916) 651-4039 Fax: (916) 327-2188
Senator Elaine Alquist senator.alquist@sen.ca.gov Phone: (916) 651-4013 Fax: (916) 324-0283
Senator Elaine Corbett senator.corbett@sen.ca.gov Phone (916) 651-4010 Fax: (916) 327-2433
Senator Jeff Denham senator.denham@sen.ca.gov Phone (916) 651-4012 Fax: (916) 445-0773
Senator Mark Leno senator.leno@sen.ca.gov (916) 651-4003 Fax: (916) 445-4722
Senator Curren Price senator.curren@sen.ca.gov Phone (916) 651-4026 Fax: (916) 445-8899
Senator Mimi Walters senator.walters@sen.ca.gov Phone (916) 651-4033 Fax: (916) 445-9754
Senator Lois Wolk senator.wolk@sen.ca.gov (916) 651-4005 Fax: (916) 323-2304
Senator Mark Wyland senator.wyland@sen.ca.gov (916) 651-4038 Fax: (916) 446-7382
Senator Leland Yee senator.yee@sen.ca.gov (916) 651-4008

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Kris Christine · 08-03-2010, 10:42 AM

UPDATE: CA Medical Exemption Bill AB 2000 -- On 8/2/10, California's Senate Appropriations Committee decided that the medical exemption bill AB 2000, Molly's Bill, "met the criteria for referral to the Suspense File," meaning that it will cost the state over $150,000 to implement AB 2000 Assembly Bill - Bill Analysis .

An Appropriations Committee hearing is scheduled for 8/12/10 to vote yes or no on all the suspense file bills -- a yes vote will send a bill to the Senate floor, a no vote will kill the bill. Saulo Londono from AM Hagman's office told me today that his office has requested that the committee pull AB 2000 from the Suspense File and send it directly to the Senate floor for vote; he expects to hear back within 48 hours whether they will pull the bill or not.

Kris Christine · 08-13-2010, 01:42 PM

UPDATE 8/13/10 California Medical Exemption AB 2000, "Molly's Bill" -- Saulo Londono from AM Hagman's office just informed me that AB 2000, "Molly's Bill," was NOT voted out of the "Suspense File" at yesterday's Appropriations Committee hearing, which means that the bill will not go to the Senate for a floor vote, which it must do in order to become law. According to Mr. Londono, the Committee Chair's STAFF (Senator Christine Kehoe (Chair) senator.kehoe@sen.ca.gov Phone: (916) 651-4039 Fax: (916) 327-2188) determined that the bill doesn't merit the cost of implementing it. He believes that Senator Kehoe's staff is "playing politics" with this bill, and AM Hagman's office has contacted the Governor's office to see what can be done.

Mr. Londono will get back in touch with me next week to let us know what we dog owners can do.

Kris Christine · 08-23-2010, 01:24 PM

URGENT--California AB 2000 Action Alert "Molly's Bill" -- Please make 3 calls: Monica Wagoner Dept. Health (916) 440-7502, Appropriations Committee (916-651-4101), and Committee Chair Senator Kehoe (916) 651-4039. Tell them to stop playing politics with the lives of California's sick dogs and get this bill to the Senate Floor for passage.

Saulo Londono called from AM Hagman's office with an update. Apparently the problem with this bill lies with the Deputy Director of Legislative & Governmental Affairs in the Department of Health, Monica Wagoner (916) 440-7502, who claims they will need to hire a 1/2 time research scientist for 18 months at the cost of $160,000 to put this bill through the regulatory process. Other states, such as Maine, did not have to hire anyone to process their medical exemption regulations -- it appears that the Health Department is trying to use this bill as an excuse to hire an extra researcher. Monica Wagoner is the same person who wrote a letter to California legislators on June 8th opposing the rabies medical exemption after the mandatory quarantine clause was removed. Please call Monica Wagoner's office and tell her this cost is ridiculous, other states did not take 18 months to process a medical exemption clause into their regulations, and they did not have to hire a research scientist in order to do so.

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Kris Christine · 08-29-2010, 02:43 AM

UPDATE "Molly's Bill" CALIFORNIA AB 2000 August 28: Saulo Londono from AM Hagman's office called to say that Senate Appropriations Committee Chair, Senator Christine Kehoe (916) 651-4039 "killed" the rabies medical exemption bill, AB 2000 "Molly's Bill" yesterday in committee by aligning all the Democrats on the Committee to vote against it strictly along party lines rather on the merit of the bill. Senator Kehoe's Chief of Staff reportedly told Saulo that this was "all about politics."

Remember this bill unanimously passed an Assembly floor vote (74-0) May 6th, and on July 15th received a unanimous 8-0 "DO PASS" vote from the Senate Health Committee. The Appropriations Committee should respect this strong vote of support from the Legislature and fund this bill. Please direct any and all calls of concern to Senator Kehoe at (916) 651-4039.

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Kris Christine · 09-09-2010, 11:28 AM

UPDATE "Molly's Bill" CALIFORNIA AB 2000 September 9. This bill unanimously passed an Assembly floor vote (74-0) May 6th, and on July 15th received a unanimous 8-0 "DO PASS" vote from the Senate Health Committee AB 2000 Assembly Bill - History . Thus, it was deemed by the California legislature to be medically meritorious and in need of enactment. The bill was then “killed” by Senator Christine Kehoe and the Senate Appropriations Committee based solely on perceived fiscal needs and party line politics during this time of recession.

Should any one residing in California have a dog justifiably in need of medical exemption from rabies booster vaccination, the fact that this bill unanimously passed both houses can be used as a rationale for rabies exemption at the local level.

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Kris Christine · 01-08-2011, 04:29 AM

CALIFORNIA: Rabies Medical Exemption Petition http://www.change.org/petitions/view...rabies_vaccine for California residents. If the link to the petition does not work by clicking on it, simply copy and paste it into your browser. Please ask all the California residents you know to sign this petition.

Veterinary student Lisa Lippman has started a petition to get Rabies Medical Exemption legislation reintroduced in California. Lisa's story and another link to petition: Vet Student Assists to Change Rabies Law in California

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06-19-2010, 05:58 AM	#16
Kris Christine YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND Posts: 434	Statement from Dr. Margo Roman sent in Support of AB 2000, "Molly's Bill" As a California licensed veterinarian who has been practicing for 32 years, I am concerned about the health and well-being of my patients and protection of my clients. I am very concerned about the rabies vaccine. I have seen very serious reactions from the vaccine. My own personal dog, a 17 month old Standard Poodle “Wailea” was given a second rabies vaccine at 17 months and went into liver failure and facial myositis. She eventually lost all the muscles in her head as her eyes were sinking into their sockets and she eventually died. I had taken a rabies titer (an antibody blood test) on my dog just for information at the time of the vaccine and it showed 10 times more protection than needed for a rabies response. Since the rabies vaccine is only 86 % effective and that means 14% of the animals vaccinated do not have protection. My dog did not need that vaccine but I gave it due to the law and it eventually killed my dog. My dog's antibodies were protecting her from the deadly disease of rabies and giving her another vaccine did not make her more protected but instead drove her body into an auto-immune reaction attacking her own body. I received my own rabies vaccines in 1974 and was told in Veterinary School that I should never just blindly get vaccinated but should titer every other year and see if my titer had dropped. If my titer dropped below the level then I should get a booster. Under no circumstances should I just blindly get a booster as it can cause auto-immune issues. As veterinarians, we are required to do that. The vaccine has hazardous effects. With 46 % of dogs and 39 % of cats now getting cancer, giving an unnecessary rabies vaccine is very dangerous to the pet. Vaccines are strong immune stimulators and can work negatively on the immune system. Titers are the best way to see if vaccines are effective protection and they should be an accepted evaluation of a pets protection from Rabies. Margo Roman,DVM Main Street Animal Services of Hopkinton Margo Roman, DVM MASH Main St Animal Services of Hopkinton Hopkinton, MA 01748 508-435-4077 fx 508-435-5533 Main Street Animal Services of Hopkinton DrDoMore Project DrDoMore.com - Home drdomoredvm@aol.com __________________ Kris L. Christine, Founder & Co-Trustee THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND

06-21-2010, 02:09 AM	#20
Kris Christine YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND Posts: 434	Dr. Dodds is the best! __________________ Kris L. Christine, Founder & Co-Trustee THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND

06-23-2010, 07:25 AM	#22
Kris Christine YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND Posts: 434	CALIFORNIA AB2000 UPDATE: Yesterday, with Saulo Londono and AM Curt Hagman, representatives of all the interested parties from the government agencies and California Veterinary Medical Association, including Dr. W. Jean Dodds from The Rabies Challenge Fund met via telephone conference. Draft amendments to the bill will NOT include quarantine, and I will post an update as soon as that rewording is available. The Senate Health Committee meets today. __________________ Kris L. Christine, Founder & Co-Trustee THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND

07-02-2010, 03:38 AM	#23
Kris Christine YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND Posts: 434	CALIFORNIA Medical Exemption Bill AB 2000 Senate Health Committee Votes DO PASS 6/30/10 AB 2000 Assembly Bill - Status amended language not available yet, so we are not sure precisely what wording passed. The bill has been referred to the Committee on Appropriations. __________________ Kris L. Christine, Founder & Co-Trustee THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND

07-15-2010, 07:07 AM	#24
Kris Christine YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND Posts: 434	CA Rabies Medical Exemption Bill AB 2000 -- Senate Appropriations hearing set for 8/2/10 AB 2000 Assembly Bill - Status Please contact the members of the Appropriations committee below and ask them to fully fund AB 2000 Senator Christine Kehoe (Chair) senator.kehoe@sen.ca.gov Phone: (916) 651-4039 Fax: (916) 327-2188 Senator Elaine Alquist senator.alquist@sen.ca.gov Phone: (916) 651-4013 Fax: (916) 324-0283 Senator Elaine Corbett senator.corbett@sen.ca.gov Phone (916) 651-4010 Fax: (916) 327-2433 Senator Jeff Denham senator.denham@sen.ca.gov Phone (916) 651-4012 Fax: (916) 445-0773 Senator Mark Leno senator.leno@sen.ca.gov (916) 651-4003 Fax: (916) 445-4722 Senator Curren Price senator.curren@sen.ca.gov Phone (916) 651-4026 Fax: (916) 445-8899 Senator Mimi Walters senator.walters@sen.ca.gov Phone (916) 651-4033 Fax: (916) 445-9754 Senator Lois Wolk senator.wolk@sen.ca.gov (916) 651-4005 Fax: (916) 323-2304 Senator Mark Wyland senator.wyland@sen.ca.gov (916) 651-4038 Fax: (916) 446-7382 Senator Leland Yee senator.yee@sen.ca.gov (916) 651-4008 PERMISSION GRANTED TO POST AND CROSS-POST __________________ Kris L. Christine, Founder & Co-Trustee THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND Last edited by Kris Christine; 07-15-2010 at 07:11 AM.

06-19-2010, 06:07 AM	#17
dwerten BANNED! Join Date: May 2007 Location: USA Posts: 11,073	Kris thanks for posting this as my dog has autoimmune disease as she has hypothyroid and atopic dermatitis and it all started after her puppy shots at 6mos of age. Prior to that she had no itching whatsoever I just do not understand if they titer for rabies in humans why we cannot in dogs to keep them safe from disease.

08-03-2010, 10:42 AM	#25
Kris Christine YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND Posts: 434	UPDATE: CA Medical Exemption Bill AB 2000 -- On 8/2/10, California's Senate Appropriations Committee decided that the medical exemption bill AB 2000, Molly's Bill, "met the criteria for referral to the Suspense File," meaning that it will cost the state over $150,000 to implement AB 2000 Assembly Bill - Bill Analysis . An Appropriations Committee hearing is scheduled for 8/12/10 to vote yes or no on all the suspense file bills -- a yes vote will send a bill to the Senate floor, a no vote will kill the bill. Saulo Londono from AM Hagman's office told me today that his office has requested that the committee pull AB 2000 from the Suspense File and send it directly to the Senate floor for vote; he expects to hear back within 48 hours whether they will pull the bill or not. __________________ Kris L. Christine, Founder & Co-Trustee THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND

08-13-2010, 01:42 PM	#26
Kris Christine YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND Posts: 434	UPDATE 8/13/10 California Medical Exemption AB 2000, "Molly's Bill" -- Saulo Londono from AM Hagman's office just informed me that AB 2000, "Molly's Bill," was NOT voted out of the "Suspense File" at yesterday's Appropriations Committee hearing, which means that the bill will not go to the Senate for a floor vote, which it must do in order to become law. According to Mr. Londono, the Committee Chair's STAFF (Senator Christine Kehoe (Chair) senator.kehoe@sen.ca.gov Phone: (916) 651-4039 Fax: (916) 327-2188) determined that the bill doesn't merit the cost of implementing it. He believes that Senator Kehoe's staff is "playing politics" with this bill, and AM Hagman's office has contacted the Governor's office to see what can be done. Mr. Londono will get back in touch with me next week to let us know what we dog owners can do. __________________ Kris L. Christine, Founder & Co-Trustee THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND

08-23-2010, 01:24 PM	#27
Kris Christine YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND Posts: 434	URGENT--California AB 2000 Action Alert "Molly's Bill" -- Please make 3 calls: Monica Wagoner Dept. Health (916) 440-7502, Appropriations Committee (916-651-4101), and Committee Chair Senator Kehoe (916) 651-4039. Tell them to stop playing politics with the lives of California's sick dogs and get this bill to the Senate Floor for passage. Saulo Londono called from AM Hagman's office with an update. Apparently the problem with this bill lies with the Deputy Director of Legislative & Governmental Affairs in the Department of Health, Monica Wagoner (916) 440-7502, who claims they will need to hire a 1/2 time research scientist for 18 months at the cost of $160,000 to put this bill through the regulatory process. Other states, such as Maine, did not have to hire anyone to process their medical exemption regulations -- it appears that the Health Department is trying to use this bill as an excuse to hire an extra researcher. Monica Wagoner is the same person who wrote a letter to California legislators on June 8th opposing the rabies medical exemption after the mandatory quarantine clause was removed. Please call Monica Wagoner's office and tell her this cost is ridiculous, other states did not take 18 months to process a medical exemption clause into their regulations, and they did not have to hire a research scientist in order to do so. PERMISSION GRANTED TO POST AND CROSS-POST __________________ Kris L. Christine, Founder & Co-Trustee THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND

08-29-2010, 02:43 AM	#28
Kris Christine YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND Posts: 434	UPDATE "Molly's Bill" CALIFORNIA AB 2000 August 28: Saulo Londono from AM Hagman's office called to say that Senate Appropriations Committee Chair, Senator Christine Kehoe (916) 651-4039 "killed" the rabies medical exemption bill, AB 2000 "Molly's Bill" yesterday in committee by aligning all the Democrats on the Committee to vote against it strictly along party lines rather on the merit of the bill. Senator Kehoe's Chief of Staff reportedly told Saulo that this was "all about politics." Remember this bill unanimously passed an Assembly floor vote (74-0) May 6th, and on July 15th received a unanimous 8-0 "DO PASS" vote from the Senate Health Committee. The Appropriations Committee should respect this strong vote of support from the Legislature and fund this bill. Please direct any and all calls of concern to Senator Kehoe at (916) 651-4039. PERMISSION GRANTED TO POST AND CROSS-POST __________________ Kris L. Christine, Founder & Co-Trustee THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND

09-09-2010, 11:28 AM	#29
Kris Christine YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND Posts: 434	UPDATE "Molly's Bill" CALIFORNIA AB 2000 September 9. This bill unanimously passed an Assembly floor vote (74-0) May 6th, and on July 15th received a unanimous 8-0 "DO PASS" vote from the Senate Health Committee AB 2000 Assembly Bill - History . Thus, it was deemed by the California legislature to be medically meritorious and in need of enactment. The bill was then “killed” by Senator Christine Kehoe and the Senate Appropriations Committee based solely on perceived fiscal needs and party line politics during this time of recession. Should any one residing in California have a dog justifiably in need of medical exemption from rabies booster vaccination, the fact that this bill unanimously passed both houses can be used as a rationale for rabies exemption at the local level. PERMISSION GRANTED TO CROSS-POST __________________ Kris L. Christine, Founder & Co-Trustee THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND

01-08-2011, 04:29 AM	#30
Kris Christine YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND Posts: 434	CALIFORNIA Rabies Medical Exemption Petition CALIFORNIA: Rabies Medical Exemption Petition http://www.change.org/petitions/view...rabies_vaccine for California residents. If the link to the petition does not work by clicking on it, simply copy and paste it into your browser. Please ask all the California residents you know to sign this petition. Veterinary student Lisa Lippman has started a petition to get Rabies Medical Exemption legislation reintroduced in California. Lisa's story and another link to petition: Vet Student Assists to Change Rabies Law in California PERMISSION GRANTED TO CROSS-POST __________________ Kris L. Christine, Founder & Co-Trustee THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND