Vent about perspective puppy owners!!

[yorkiepuppie]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Lol, that's a bed I made out of cardboard for some Christmas cards last year. I didn't want to throw it out when we did some reorganizing, but I put it next to desk, until I could find a place to store it, and he started using it. Here's the Christmas picture, the bed looks better from this angle.

i LOVE this picture.

[Reese1]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Lol, that's a bed I made out of cardboard for some Christmas cards last year. I didn't want to throw it out when we did some reorganizing, but I put it next to desk, until I could find a place to store it, and he started using it. Here's the Christmas picture, the bed looks better from this angle.

Oh my, I love that! How sweet!

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Lol, that's a bed I made out of cardboard for some Christmas cards last year. I didn't want to throw it out when we did some reorganizing, but I put it next to desk, until I could find a place to store it, and he started using it. Here's the Christmas picture, the bed looks better from this angle.

Wow, you are talented. I want one....

[livingdustmops]

You are very talented...love the bed and really love your xmas cards..

[ArmaniMan]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Wow, you are talented. I want one....

me too, That looks mighty comfy.

[BellaDonna]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

I can only speak to how I make my decision and how I was taught. I've posted many a post what a breeder looks for, should someone approach them for a show dog. First of all a breeder must be willing to mentor said person. When purchasing a show dog you are purchasing a mentor. There is so many things we look for. But, the most important is looking into their heart. Do, they have the breed's best interest at heart.

When someone approaches me and the first thing they say is I'm looking to breed.....that automatically shuts me down. There are certain key things I listen for and I won't share them for obvious reasons. What I will say is my mentor put me through the ringer; I traveled with her and her handler for over a year, before she even allowed me to have one of her dogs. I was taught genetics, pedigrees, nutrition, handling, grooming, training, presenting a yorkie, everything yorkie. Assisted her in many a whelp, and was only allowed near a whelping box when I finished 3 Champions.

Now that doesn't mean I won't help a newbie who is attempting to enter the show world. But, mentorship and providing a newbie with a show dog is a whole different ball of wax and a big responsibility.

So does this mean that you would only mentor someone that is interested in showing dogs? Meaning, can you not be a wonderful breeder if you don't show? I am not being a smart ass, I really want to know.

[AmyChristine]

Originally Posted by BellaDonna

So does this mean that you would only mentor someone that is interested in showing dogs? Meaning, can you not be a wonderful breeder if you don't show? I am not being a smart ass, I really want to know.

A wonderful breeder in my opinion would be breeding for a purpose. If you are only breeding to make more puppies in this overpopulated pet world then that is not enough of a purpose. IMO the best breeders in the world were exhibitors first. This is not just a coincidence, they were breeding for the purpose of obtaining there next dog to show, there for breeding as closely to breed standard as possible. They have to keep all aspects of the breed in mind when trying to produce their next CH; health, temperament, structure, etc... Most exhibitor/breeders that I have talked to have had to put in a ton of work to even be able to obtain the dogs that they have in their breeding program. They do not go about breeding lightly they have the best interest of their animals, the breed, and their reputation all in mind when producing and placing a litter. I also feel like when someone is breeding for themselves they are less likely to cut corners. I am not saying there are not good breeders out there that don't show or there are not bad breeders that do show because there are always exceptions in every category. But I do think that a prospective owner will have a better chance of getting a yorkie that is healthy and looks and acts like a yorkie should by choosing to support a breeder/exhibitor instead of someone who is just producing puppies.

[Cerise]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Lol, that's a bed I made out of cardboard for some Christmas cards last year. I didn't want to throw it out when we did some reorganizing, but I put it next to desk, until I could find a place to store it, and he started using it. Here's the Christmas picture, the bed looks better from this angle.

Adorable!!!

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Wow, you are talented. I want one....

Just send me your address, I will guard it with my life!

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by AmyChristine

A wonderful breeder in my opinion would be breeding for a purpose. If you are only breeding to make more puppies in this overpopulated pet world then that is not enough of a purpose. IMO the best breeders in the world were exhibitors first. This is not just a coincidence, they were breeding for the purpose of obtaining there next dog to show, there for breeding as closely to breed standard as possible. They have to keep all aspects of the breed in mind when trying to produce their next CH; health, temperament, structure, etc... Most exhibitor/breeders that I have talked to have had to put in a ton of work to even be able to obtain the dogs that they have in their breeding program. They do not go about breeding lightly they have the best interest of their animals, the breed, and their reputation all in mind when producing and placing a litter. I also feel like when someone is breeding for themselves they are less likely to cut corners. I am not saying there are not good breeders out there that don't show or there are not bad breeders that do show because there are always exceptions in every category. But I do think that a prospective owner will have a better chance of getting a yorkie that is healthy and looks and acts like a yorkie should by choosing to support a breeder/exhibitor instead of someone who is just producing puppies.

Great post!

[Cerise]

Originally Posted by AmyChristine

A wonderful breeder in my opinion would be breeding for a purpose. If you are only breeding to make more puppies in this overpopulated pet world then that is not enough of a purpose. IMO the best breeders in the world were exhibitors first. This is not just a coincidence, they were breeding for the purpose of obtaining there next dog to show, there for breeding as closely to breed standard as possible. They have to keep all aspects of the breed in mind when trying to produce their next CH; health, temperament, structure, etc... Most exhibitor/breeders that I have talked to have had to put in a ton of work to even be able to obtain the dogs that they have in their breeding program. They do not go about breeding lightly they have the best interest of their animals, the breed, and their reputation all in mind when producing and placing a litter. I also feel like when someone is breeding for themselves they are less likely to cut corners. I am not saying there are not good breeders out there that don't show or there are not bad breeders that do show because there are always exceptions in every category. But I do think that a prospective owner will have a better chance of getting a yorkie that is healthy and looks and acts like a yorkie should by choosing to support a breeder/exhibitor instead of someone who is just producing puppies.

[yorkielady06]

Love the bed Nancy..you have talent... I could cuddle up on that bed.

[BellaDonna]

Originally Posted by AmyChristine

A wonderful breeder in my opinion would be breeding for a purpose. If you are only breeding to make more puppies in this overpopulated pet world then that is not enough of a purpose. IMO the best breeders in the world were exhibitors first. This is not just a coincidence, they were breeding for the purpose of obtaining there next dog to show, there for breeding as closely to breed standard as possible. They have to keep all aspects of the breed in mind when trying to produce their next CH; health, temperament, structure, etc... Most exhibitor/breeders that I have talked to have had to put in a ton of work to even be able to obtain the dogs that they have in their breeding program. They do not go about breeding lightly they have the best interest of their animals, the breed, and their reputation all in mind when producing and placing a litter. I also feel like when someone is breeding for themselves they are less likely to cut corners. I am not saying there are not good breeders out there that don't show or there are not bad breeders that do show because there are always exceptions in every category. But I do think that a prospective owner will have a better chance of getting a yorkie that is healthy and looks and acts like a yorkie should by choosing to support a breeder/exhibitor instead of someone who is just producing puppies.

I am not taking anything from the Exhibitor/Show person, it's just that I don't have a particular interest or ability really to travel from show to show and take up that end of the business. Are there not people that team or partner that allows one person to do the actual breeding end of the business while someone else does the show end?

Also just in case anyone is wondering I don't breed dogs and don't have the intention to at this time but I have always had an interest. I have 6 chihuahuas and now the 1 Yorkie. All of my chihuahuas were spayed/neutered and I always bang that drum to all that will listen.

[MyTrixie143]

Oh I had similar experience happen not too long ago.

I had a woman come over and to look at pups. First she knows nothing about the breed. She asked why the pups were all black and tan. I tried to explain to her that all yorkies are born this color and then as adults their coats turn blue or silver as some call it. She points at one of my blue and gold girls and says "but I want one like that". She clearly was not grasping the concept. She then tells me that she use to have teacup poodles a few years back and that she bred them as they were very desirable and now she wants a teacup yorkie.

I told her sorry but I would never sell her one of my pups.

The nerve of these people, where do they come from?!


I too have a spay/neuter contract. Mine states that they must have them spayed/neutered by 9 months old and I have full rights to confiscate the puppy if it is not upheld. Sometimes it is a little later than 9 months as I've kept a puppy longer but there is still a good time frame and it was only with boys. If I kept a girl that long she would be spayed before leaving.

So far I've had no problems and everyone has followed the rule but it is something I worry about a lot.

Oh and I do have in my contract that they aren't allowed to rehome, give away, sell or abandon the puppy/dog, they have to come back to me. And they can't euthanize without my permission ever.

[DvlshAngel985]

Originally Posted by MyTrixie143

I too have a spay/neuter contract. Mine states that they must have them spayed/neutered by 9 months old and I have full rights to confiscate the puppy if it is not upheld. Sometimes it is a little later than 9 months as I've kept a puppy longer but there is still a good time frame and it was only with boys. If I kept a girl that long she would be spayed before leaving.

So far I've had no problems and everyone has followed the rule but it is something I worry about a lot.

Oh and I do have in my contract that they aren't allowed to rehome, give away, sell or abandon the puppy/dog, they have to come back to me. And they can't euthanize without my permission ever.

I was wondering, what happens when a new puppy owner doesn't uphold the contract? Has anyone actually taken a dog back before? What about the extreme case of a dog being euthanized without your consent? What are the repercussion of that?
Just curious!!