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Old 04-14-2010, 06:56 AM   #46
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I think its unfair how people aren't very nice about people doing their "homework" about bringing the dogs home too early. I got Bella at 8 weeks as well and i didn't know that it was important to wait 12 weeks. She has had her bumps and ups and downs but it doesn't make anyone a bad person. I am soo sick of people jumping down people's throats and acting like they are yorkie professionals and have nothing better to do than criticize people. This is a unique breed unlike most dogs which you can bring home at 6 weeks. I know now that you should wait longer, but at the same time Bella is now going on 4 months and amazing!

On a lighter note, congrats! I am so happy for you, people are looking out for your puppy and best interest they don't always say it in the most appropriate way. I will say, at first, I was only working 2 days a week which left a lot of time for me to be with Bella. I will agree with the others about the XPEN, thats the best way to get them to be happy while you are away with a bed, toys, water, a little food, etc. I think for Bella this worked so well because she sleeps in it as well so she sees it as a comforting home rather than scary. (it is in our bedroom) Try the xpen, you can get them anywhere just google it!


I also leave the tv on when I leave because now I am full time and can't be home with her. We puppy pad trained her so she doesn't have to be let out during the day. We are not working on training her to go out if she doesn't have her puppy pad I hope it works.


Again, congrats, its a lot of work but worth it. I think you will do great, just try these tips and see how it goes
I would just like to comment on the above statements that you made because I really don't want a new person to read them without having all the information.

Many of the people who are giving advise - that was asked for - are people who have either been in breeding/or raising Yorkies for a very long time and are familiar with genetics, socialization and medical welfare of Yorkies. If you read on the YTCA (Yorkshire Terrier Club of America - mother club) website you'll find a lot of the same information that was given by these members. I guess I would call them "professionals" as they have devoted much of their life to this breed.

And, yes, the Yorkie is a unique breed in that it is a "toy" breed and very different than raising a larger breed. Exactly why people are giving the advise that they are. Personally, I don't think larger breed pups should be leaving their moms at 6 weeks either. It just sounds like the breeders want to be done with them so that they don't have to feed and put up with them. I had a German Shepard and didn't let her litter go until they were 10 wks old and she had 10 of them.

I hope that new people take the time to view past postings from members giving advise. You can't always go by post count --- but you can certainly tell by the content of their posts what their experience is with this breed. In otherwords, some people giving advise may have little - if any - experience... while others have years of first hand experience and schooling.

I'm not sure why you made a comment about people jumping down anyone's throat on this thread because I thought everyone was being very nice - but it's comments like that that tend to ignite the fire.
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I would just like to comment on the above statements that you made because I really don't want a new person to read them without having all the information.

Many of the people who are giving advise - that was asked for - are people who have either been in breeding/or raising Yorkies for a very long time and are familiar with genetics, socialization and medical welfare of Yorkies. If you read on the YTCA (Yorkshire Terrier Club of America - mother club) website you'll find a lot of the same information that was given by these members. I guess I would call them "professionals" as they have devoted much of their life to this breed.

And, yes, the Yorkie is a unique breed in that it is a "toy" breed and very different than raising a larger breed. Exactly why people are giving the advise that they are. Personally, I don't think larger breed pups should be leaving their moms at 6 weeks either. It just sounds like the breeders want to be done with them so that they don't have to feed and put up with them. I had a German Shepard and didn't let her litter go until they were 10 wks old and she had 10 of them.

I hope that new people take the time to view past postings from members giving advise. You can't always go by post count --- but you can certainly tell by the content of their posts what their experience is with this breed. In otherwords, some people giving advise may have little - if any - experience... while others have years of first hand experience and schooling.

I'm not sure why you made a comment about people jumping down anyone's throat on this thread because I thought everyone was being very nice - but it's comments like that that tend to ignite the fire.
I agree... comments like that simply feed the fire and bring nothing to the conversation.

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I see where you are coming from and trust me it REALLY bothered me. I did not know she had fleas or worms until I brought her home and it was a couple hours later.

I cannot tell you how much research I did on trying to find a GOOD breeder. It seems like all the breeders around me are in it for the money and are not concerned with the dogs well being at all. I went to the AKC website and found my breeder there. After I contacted her, I asked her a TON of questions before I purchased her. I did not want to buy from a breeder who referred to her as a "teacup" either because I know that is just a marketing thing and they are really selling premature puppies.

I was comfortable with this breeder because she was very into her dogs. The only downfall was that they had fleas. She doesn't believe in flea medicine because she is more of an "organic" and natural type of person. She bathes them in some type of shampoo, but the fleas are still there. I disagree with that and the fact that she lets the puppies go home that early.

Honestly, I am glad I took her at 8 weeks because I would not want her infested with fleas and worms, thats horrible.
i hear ya. it's hard to know where to start. and you have definately come to the right place. i am not trying to scare you off, i have been in your shoes before and remember how bad it hurt having people tell me off when to be honest i just didn't understand where they were coming from...i wish i had found this website BEFORE i had fallen in love with Sadie and put a deposit on her, but that's past and i'm so happy with her now.

you can do it, pups are a challenge but certainly not impossible to have and working is what pretty much most of America does so doing that and having a pup is pretty common and lots of people do fine with it.

i do wish you the best of luck, i'm glad the pup has a seemingly good home, and in the future i know that you will be more aware of just exactly what type of home the pup is coming from and probably help teach your friends and family more about where to look for a good breeder.

if you do need anything please feel free to let me know. i get frustrated at the breeder NOT at you. that person is the irresponsible one and you were just someone that happened to get caught up in their dishonesty.

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I did get her at 8 weeks. She is fine. She lived with 6 other dogs and a cat. I was really worried she would be very depressed when I took her home but she was SO HAPPY! So playful and loving and she was attached to me immediately (so cute!) She did have fleas and worms so I took her to the vet the next day and He took care of that stuff. I am crate training her. She sleeps in HER bed on my bed at night, but during the days she is in the crate while i'm at work. I come home on my lunch break and feed, potty and play with her everyday and then she's is back in the crate. I leave a shirt in her crate with her (the one I sleep in the night before) as well as some toys and food and water. She was having separation anxiety... BAD. I couldn't even take a shower without her trying to jump in the tub with me and crying and shaking. I was so worried I called the vet and they told me to get her rescue remedy. I gave it to her this morning and when I showered, no barking. When I put her in the crate this morning, no barking or crying. She is 100% different. Its great! She loves her new home and she is very happy.

Yes, maybe she was too young to come home, but honestly I would rather have her with me than have fleas and worms at her breeders house. (All the dogs had them) She is spoiled rotten and does great on the potty pads!

I appreciate all the support and advise, you guys are VERY helpful! I have received many encouraging messages and sincerely appreciate it. I now realize that some people on here can be a little overboard and completely RUDE but it doesn't get to me. Just because I brought her home early and work full time doesn't mean I'm a bad mom or that I don't love her and want the best for her. I work so I can provide a nice home and things for my pets and myself and I'm sorry if that offends you.
Since you already have your new baby, I'm just going to say Welcome to YT!! I hope you will stay around and take advantage of the great knowledge and advice available here. I may have just missed it, but what is you little one's name? Oh, and is there any possibility that you could take her to work with you until she's a couple of weeks older? I know most businesses won't allow that, but more and more will let you these days.
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YES they do suffer from it! Important socialization comes from it's mother, not by carrying a puppy around in a purse before getting it's shots.
How on earth is it's mother going to introduce it to other people (including those in uniforms, in dresses, in trousers, in loud colours, short ones, tall ones, fat ones, thin ones, long haired, short haired, clean shaven, in groups, etc) traffic, the sea, the countryside, transport, etc, etc, etc? THATS'S socialisation and a dog's not going to get that being shut in a pen/crate/kennel with its mother.

Dogs do NOT suffer from leaving their mother at 8 weeks at all. Dogs leave their mother and littermates at that age in the UK all the time to absolutely no ill effect. Are you saying that all our vets, breeders, welfare organisations, etc, know nothing? The PDSA aren't even against them leaving at 6 weeks but I do think that's too young. Most of our vets run puppy parties so they can mix with each other before they're fully vaccinated.

Attacking everyone who gets a pup at 8 weeks is ridiculous and needless. We are all entitled to our opinions and mine is (and that of all our vets, etc) that there is nothing at all wrong with a puppy leaving at 8 weeks unless there are health issues.

Tilly's 10 weeks now and already is doing clicker training and has learnt sit. She also comes when she's called and is virtually housetrained. She also doesn't get nervous around other people so won't end up being yappy through nerves. She's not frightened of the sound of traffic and nothing at all has worried her so far. She loves going out in her pouch and being fussed by people. It does them no end of good and no harm at all. She's also happy to be left in her crate when we go out without her. Yes...she's mouthing still but that'll stop soon enough. The benefits she's received by coming to me at 8 weeks are tremendous. We're going to have a great family dog with no timidness or hang ups. She's already there. She's also fit, healthy, well wormed, well fed, vet checked and very happy. She's didn't miss her mother or siblings for one second. She's had no trauma and no stress. She's a fab little dog and she's already a very firm part of the family.

It really is no crime against nature to have a puppy at 8 weeks providing you're prepared to put the work in. Breeders over here expect their pups to be gone at 8 weeks and if they're not they start worrying about being lumbered with pups.
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I did get her at 8 weeks. She is fine. She lived with 6 other dogs and a cat. I was really worried she would be very depressed when I took her home but she was SO HAPPY! So playful and loving and she was attached to me immediately (so cute!) She did have fleas and worms so I took her to the vet the next day and He took care of that stuff. I am crate training her. She sleeps in HER bed on my bed at night, but during the days she is in the crate while i'm at work. I come home on my lunch break and feed, potty and play with her everyday and then she's is back in the crate. I leave a shirt in her crate with her (the one I sleep in the night before) as well as some toys and food and water. She was having separation anxiety... BAD. I couldn't even take a shower without her trying to jump in the tub with me and crying and shaking. I was so worried I called the vet and they told me to get her rescue remedy. I gave it to her this morning and when I showered, no barking. When I put her in the crate this morning, no barking or crying. She is 100% different. Its great! She loves her new home and she is very happy.

Yes, maybe she was too young to come home, but honestly I would rather have her with me than have fleas and worms at her breeders house. (All the dogs had them) She is spoiled rotten and does great on the potty pads!

I appreciate all the support and advise, you guys are VERY helpful! I have received many encouraging messages and sincerely appreciate it. I now realize that some people on here can be a little overboard and completely RUDE but it doesn't get to me. Just because I brought her home early and work full time doesn't mean I'm a bad mom or that I don't love her and want the best for her. I work so I can provide a nice home and things for my pets and myself and I'm sorry if that offends you.
You've done nothing wrong in getting her at that age. In fact, I'm glad you did as having fleas and worms for another 4 weeks would have been very harmful to the pup. Keep up working on the crate training...there's nothing worse than having a dog that falls to bits as soon as you're out of the room. Sounds like she's going to be great company for you. Good luck.
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We are all entitled to our opinions and mine is (and that of all our vets, etc) that there is nothing at all wrong with a puppy leaving at 8 weeks unless there are health issues.
That's just going to have to remain a difference of opinion, I'm afraid, as most here, including the parent breed club see otherwise and believe that vital socialization skills are learned while with mom and littermates during the 8-12 week range. As far as it being normal for them to leave at 6 weeks, that's not even legal here in many states. Are you going to say that our parent club, vets and authorities know nothing? Should we all really get into a debate over who's country is more advanced in the areas of proper pet care, treatment and socialization? Silly, isn't it?

Honestly, the comparisons of UK vs US social norms that so frequently happens needs to be put to rest, on both sides. I get sick of reading comments that suggest we here in the US should make an effort to be more like the UK, and vice vs.

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As you know, many people come to YT with their first dog and have no knowledge of good breeders, BYB or puppy mills. There are many threads in their respective areas for such discussions. However, this thread is regarding the fact she now has a young puppy (who happens to be from a crappy breeder) and is coming for advice on HOW to help the pup and adjust the pup. Focusing on the breeder information ONLY is not going to help the OP. She now knows that the breeder was bad and WE know the breeder was bad... that does NOT help the pup.

So many threads fly off course and members scare the new ones away -- and ones with 8 week old pups are the ones that need to stick around!

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How on earth is it's mother going to introduce it to other people (including those in uniforms, in dresses, in trousers, in loud colours, short ones, tall ones, fat ones, thin ones, long haired, short haired, clean shaven, in groups, etc) traffic, the sea, the countryside, transport, etc, etc, etc? THATS'S socialisation and a dog's not going to get that being shut in a pen/crate/kennel with its mother.

Dogs do NOT suffer from leaving their mother at 8 weeks at all. Dogs leave their mother and littermates at that age in the UK all the time to absolutely no ill effect. Are you saying that all our vets, breeders, welfare organisations, etc, know nothing? The PDSA aren't even against them leaving at 6 weeks but I do think that's too young. Most of our vets run puppy parties so they can mix with each other before they're fully vaccinated.

Attacking everyone who gets a pup at 8 weeks is ridiculous and needless. We are all entitled to our opinions and mine is (and that of all our vets, etc) that there is nothing at all wrong with a puppy leaving at 8 weeks unless there are health issues.

Tilly's 10 weeks now and already is doing clicker training and has learnt sit. She also comes when she's called and is virtually housetrained. She also doesn't get nervous around other people so won't end up being yappy through nerves. She's not frightened of the sound of traffic and nothing at all has worried her so far. She loves going out in her pouch and being fussed by people. It does them no end of good and no harm at all. She's also happy to be left in her crate when we go out without her. Yes...she's mouthing still but that'll stop soon enough. The benefits she's received by coming to me at 8 weeks are tremendous. We're going to have a great family dog with no timidness or hang ups. She's already there. She's also fit, healthy, well wormed, well fed, vet checked and very happy. She's didn't miss her mother or siblings for one second. She's had no trauma and no stress. She's a fab little dog and she's already a very firm part of the family.

It really is no crime against nature to have a puppy at 8 weeks providing you're prepared to put the work in. Breeders over here expect their pups to be gone at 8 weeks and if they're not they start worrying about being lumbered with pups.


Since it is the NORM in the UK for puppies to leave their mothers at 6 to 8 weeks, you have nothing to compare it to.

But if you were to see the difference between one that was taken from it's mother at 6 to 8 weeks and one that was left until 10 to 12 weeks, you would realize that there is a huge dfference in their behavuior and confidence.

If you have ever watched a mother teach her puppies, you would understand, and it has been my experience from observing my mothers with their babies that the teaching doesn't even begin until 8 weeks.

Before that age the interaction between mom and babies is one of care taking. Once she has weaned them, she starts to teach them. It is so amazing to watch. If you have ever observed it you would understand.

She teaches them proper dog ettiquett, how to be a good pack member, and how to play nice.

Breeders who routinely let their puppies go at 6 to 8 weeks, cannot tell you this because they do not know this, because they have never seen it. n So they tell yhou that they will be fine.

The other aspect is that they are weaned between 6 to 8 weeks, so they are taken from their mothers and handed over to the new owner without gradually switching from mothers milk to dry kibble. Many of then don't even know what to do with kibble at that age.

This cause stress and upset stomachs and possibly hypoglycemia. Which in turn leads to the new owner hand feeding the puppy, which inturn, can lead to eating issues in the future..

So please, even though you say it worked well for you. Don't advocate to other people that they do the same. You have no idea how much better it could have been.

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I would just like to comment on the above statements that you made because I really don't want a new person to read them without having all the information.

Many of the people who are giving advise - that was asked for - are people who have either been in breeding/or raising Yorkies for a very long time and are familiar with genetics, socialization and medical welfare of Yorkies. If you read on the YTCA (Yorkshire Terrier Club of America - mother club) website you'll find a lot of the same information that was given by these members. I guess I would call them "professionals" as they have devoted much of their life to this breed.

And, yes, the Yorkie is a unique breed in that it is a "toy" breed and very different than raising a larger breed. Exactly why people are giving the advise that they are. Personally, I don't think larger breed pups should be leaving their moms at 6 weeks either. It just sounds like the breeders want to be done with them so that they don't have to feed and put up with them. I had a German Shepard and didn't let her litter go until they were 10 wks old and she had 10 of them.

I hope that new people take the time to view past postings from members giving advise. You can't always go by post count --- but you can certainly tell by the content of their posts what their experience is with this breed. In otherwords, some people giving advise may have little - if any - experience... while others have years of first hand experience and schooling.

I'm not sure why you made a comment about people jumping down anyone's throat on this thread because I thought everyone was being very nice - but it's comments like that that tend to ignite the fire.

I think I was being very respectful and trying to stick up for the majority of "newbies" here that get criticized. Its just the way people are so quick to judge new moms on here when they are here to learn, just as I have. I am just saying, its overwhelming having a new pup and not knowing much about them even when you have done your homework. I am not trying to ignite a fire, I am just simply saying. I know how helpful and knowledgeable people are on here, what I mean is that they don't need to say things the way they do, thats all! So many knowledgeable people on here have helped me in so many ways and haven't made me feel bad or guilty for it while others have judged and criticized. I am not saying everyone as a whole. I just want everyone to be nice and courteous especially to someone who is about to endure a new puppy, they need support thats for sure! Thank you for your response, and I was not trying to ignite a fire and I do sincerely appreciate everything everyone does here, just want to make sure its done in the most empathetic way because we have all been there at one point whether it was last month or 30 years ago with our first pups.
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I think its unfair how people aren't very nice about people doing their "homework" about bringing the dogs home too early. I got Bella at 8 weeks as well and i didn't know that it was important to wait 12 weeks. She has had her bumps and ups and downs but it doesn't make anyone a bad person. I am soo sick of people jumping down people's throats and acting like they are yorkie professionals and have nothing better to do than criticize people. This is a unique breed unlike most dogs which you can bring home at 6 weeks. I know now that you should wait longer, but at the same time Bella is now going on 4 months and amazing!
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And just because someone works full time does not mean that they shouldn't be able to have a puppy! Wonderful for everyone that has the ability to stay home, but for only stay at home owners to be considered good puppy candidates really isn't fair, imo. As long as the pup is taken care of, it's just fine. You may want to consider a playmate for your pup after awhile.

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As you know, many people come to YT with their first dog and have no knowledge of good breeders, BYB or puppy mills. There are many threads in their respective areas for such discussions. However, this thread is regarding the fact she now has a young puppy (who happens to be from a crappy breeder) and is coming for advice on HOW to help the pup and adjust the pup. Focusing on the breeder information ONLY is not going to help the OP. She now knows that the breeder was bad and WE know the breeder was bad... that does NOT help the pup.

So many threads fly off course and members scare the new ones away -- and ones with 8 week old pups are the ones that need to stick around!
Sarah,

You are absolutely right. YT has been an absolute haven for me with Rocco. I also believed the breeder that he was fine to go home at 8 weeks (he was a very healthy 2.8 lbs and very well cared for in her home). I did research on YT before I got him, but somehow missed the age thing. HOWEVER, thanks to support and great advice on YT, he continues to be a healthy, content (4.9lb!) 4-month-old that has mostly stopped his inappropriate biting, and can obey commands of sit, give paw, lay down, kiss, roll over, stay and come!! KKubas, your little one will be just fine...be sure to check back on here daily for all kinds of knowledge !
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Congratulations!

Lula came to live with me when she was 10 weeks old. I took one week off from work to help her adjust to her new surroundings. I wish I took off two weeks....

Food was kind of scary. She didnt want to eat at first. I had to toss peices of chicken at her like it was a game (literally AT her, I was trying to get her to eat and it had been 2 days, out of frustration I literally threw the food at her).

We did potty/crate training. If she was not in her crate she was tethered to me. I watched her 24/7.

When my boyfriend finally came over I was so relieved that he was there to watch her and I could finally take a shower!

And as soon as my vet said it was safe we spent as much time at the park socializing as possible.

When I went back to work I hired a dog walker (that I knew very well) to come to my house once a day to take her out of her crate and play with her (I dont have a lunch hour). My boyfriend now lets her out on his lunch hour.

Having this puppy in my house was very much like I would imagine its like to bring home a new human baby (luckily lula slept though the night).

If you have ANY questions, please feel free to message me.

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I am going to go back to your question...We all always feel bad when we leave our yorkies for the day and go to work....When I leave my little one and even when he was little...I would always leave a radio on or tv (not loud) and have plenty of toys and beds for him to sleep on...Clean wee wee pads are key and the more toys the less boredem on there part and they won't eat your house..lol...I would come home if you can during lunch and check on him or get a friend to stop in and play...He will be tired out in 20 min when he is little and ready to sleep again..He will have no clue you were gone that long..Just excited to see you when you return...Personally I would not crate him...Small area...half for sleep, half for food, half for wee wee pads.....Little ones tend to eat throughout the day...I was told by my vet that if you crate them and tehy have to pee, they could get bladder infections..that is what happened to my little one..Good luck and look foward to the times you are home with him/her!
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That's just going to have to remain a difference of opinion, I'm afraid, as most here, including the parent breed club see otherwise and believe that vital socialization skills are learned while with mom and littermates during the 8-12 week range. As far as it being normal for them to leave at 6 weeks, that's not even legal here in many states. Are you going to say that our parent club, vets and authorities know nothing? Should we all really get into a debate over who's country is more advanced in the areas of proper pet care, treatment and socialization? Silly, isn't it?

Honestly, the comparisons of UK vs US social norms that so frequently happens needs to be put to rest, on both sides. I get sick of reading comments that suggest we here in the US should make an effort to be more like the UK, and vice vs.
[quote=JeanieK;3084747]Since it is the NORM in the UK for puppies to leave their mothers at 6 to 8 weeks, you have nothing to compare it to.

But if you were to see the difference between one that was taken from it's mother at 6 to 8 weeks and one that was left until 10 to 12 weeks, you would realize that there is a huge dfference in their behavuior and confidence.

If you have ever watched a mother teach her puppies, you would understand, and it has been my experience from observing my mothers with their babies that the teaching doesn't even begin until 8 weeks.

Before that age the interaction between mom and babies is one of care taking. Once she has weaned them, she starts to teach them. It is so amazing to watch. If you have ever observed it you would understand.

She teaches them proper dog ettiquett, how to be a good pack member, and how to play nice.

Breeders who routinely let their puppies go at 6 to 8 weeks, cannot tell you this because they do not know this, because they have never seen it. n So they tell yhou that they will be fine.

The other aspect is that they are weaned between 6 to 8 weeks, so they are taken from their mothers and handed over to the new owner without gradually switching from mothers milk to dry kibble. Many of then don't even know what to do with kibble at that age.

This cause stress and upset stomachs and possibly hypoglycemia. Which in turn leads to the new owner hand feeding the puppy, which inturn, can lead to eating issues in the future..

So please, even though you say it worked well for you. Don't advocate to other people that they do the same. You have no idea how much better it could have been.[/QUOTE]

Good posts Misty & Jeanie!



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How on earth is it's mother going to introduce it to other people (including those in uniforms, in dresses, in trousers, in loud colours, short ones, tall ones, fat ones, thin ones, long haired, short haired, clean shaven, in groups, etc) traffic, the sea, the countryside, transport, etc, etc, etc? THATS'S socialisation and a dog's not going to get that being shut in a pen/crate/kennel with its mother.

Dogs do NOT suffer from leaving their mother at 8 weeks at all. Dogs leave their mother and littermates at that age in the UK all the time to absolutely no ill effect. Are you saying that all our vets, breeders, welfare organisations, etc, know nothing? The PDSA aren't even against them leaving at 6 weeks but I do think that's too young. Most of our vets run puppy parties so they can mix with each other before they're fully vaccinated.

Attacking everyone who gets a pup at 8 weeks is ridiculous and needless. We are all entitled to our opinions and mine is (and that of all our vets, etc) that there is nothing at all wrong with a puppy leaving at 8 weeks unless there are health issues.

Tilly's 10 weeks now and already is doing clicker training and has learnt sit. She also comes when she's called and is virtually housetrained. She also doesn't get nervous around other people so won't end up being yappy through nerves. She's not frightened of the sound of traffic and nothing at all has worried her so far. She loves going out in her pouch and being fussed by people. It does them no end of good and no harm at all. She's also happy to be left in her crate when we go out without her. Yes...she's mouthing still but that'll stop soon enough. The benefits she's received by coming to me at 8 weeks are tremendous. We're going to have a great family dog with no timidness or hang ups. She's already there. She's also fit, healthy, well wormed, well fed, vet checked and very happy. She's didn't miss her mother or siblings for one second. She's had no trauma and no stress. She's a fab little dog and she's already a very firm part of the family.

It really is no crime against nature to have a puppy at 8 weeks providing you're prepared to put the work in. Breeders over here expect their pups to be gone at 8 weeks and if they're not they start worrying about being lumbered with pups.
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