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Mia, Max and Moe's Mom Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Many of the people who are giving advise - that was asked for - are people who have either been in breeding/or raising Yorkies for a very long time and are familiar with genetics, socialization and medical welfare of Yorkies. If you read on the YTCA (Yorkshire Terrier Club of America - mother club) website you'll find a lot of the same information that was given by these members. I guess I would call them "professionals" as they have devoted much of their life to this breed. And, yes, the Yorkie is a unique breed in that it is a "toy" breed and very different than raising a larger breed. Exactly why people are giving the advise that they are. Personally, I don't think larger breed pups should be leaving their moms at 6 weeks either. It just sounds like the breeders want to be done with them so that they don't have to feed and put up with them. I had a German Shepard and didn't let her litter go until they were 10 wks old and she had 10 of them. I hope that new people take the time to view past postings from members giving advise. You can't always go by post count --- but you can certainly tell by the content of their posts what their experience is with this breed. In otherwords, some people giving advise may have little - if any - experience... while others have years of first hand experience and schooling. I'm not sure why you made a comment about people jumping down anyone's throat on this thread because I thought everyone was being very nice - but it's comments like that that tend to ignite the fire.
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BANNED FOR TAKING MONEY AND NOT SHIPPING PRODUCTS SOLD!!! Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Jose, CA
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you can do it, pups are a challenge but certainly not impossible to have and working is what pretty much most of America does so doing that and having a pup is pretty common and lots of people do fine with it. i do wish you the best of luck, i'm glad the pup has a seemingly good home, and in the future i know that you will be more aware of just exactly what type of home the pup is coming from and probably help teach your friends and family more about where to look for a good breeder. if you do need anything please feel free to let me know. i get frustrated at the breeder NOT at you. that person is the irresponsible one and you were just someone that happened to get caught up in their dishonesty. good luck. ![]() | |
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Dogs do NOT suffer from leaving their mother at 8 weeks at all. Dogs leave their mother and littermates at that age in the UK all the time to absolutely no ill effect. Are you saying that all our vets, breeders, welfare organisations, etc, know nothing? The PDSA aren't even against them leaving at 6 weeks but I do think that's too young. Most of our vets run puppy parties so they can mix with each other before they're fully vaccinated. Attacking everyone who gets a pup at 8 weeks is ridiculous and needless. We are all entitled to our opinions and mine is (and that of all our vets, etc) that there is nothing at all wrong with a puppy leaving at 8 weeks unless there are health issues. Tilly's 10 weeks now and already is doing clicker training and has learnt sit. She also comes when she's called and is virtually housetrained. She also doesn't get nervous around other people so won't end up being yappy through nerves. She's not frightened of the sound of traffic and nothing at all has worried her so far. She loves going out in her pouch and being fussed by people. It does them no end of good and no harm at all. She's also happy to be left in her crate when we go out without her. Yes...she's mouthing still but that'll stop soon enough. The benefits she's received by coming to me at 8 weeks are tremendous. We're going to have a great family dog with no timidness or hang ups. She's already there. She's also fit, healthy, well wormed, well fed, vet checked and very happy. She's didn't miss her mother or siblings for one second. She's had no trauma and no stress. She's a fab little dog and she's already a very firm part of the family. It really is no crime against nature to have a puppy at 8 weeks providing you're prepared to put the work in. Breeders over here expect their pups to be gone at 8 weeks and if they're not they start worrying about being lumbered with pups.
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Honestly, the comparisons of UK vs US social norms that so frequently happens needs to be put to rest, on both sides. I get sick of reading comments that suggest we here in the US should make an effort to be more like the UK, and vice vs. Last edited by BamaFan121s; 04-14-2010 at 08:19 AM. | |
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Since it is the NORM in the UK for puppies to leave their mothers at 6 to 8 weeks, you have nothing to compare it to. But if you were to see the difference between one that was taken from it's mother at 6 to 8 weeks and one that was left until 10 to 12 weeks, you would realize that there is a huge dfference in their behavuior and confidence. If you have ever watched a mother teach her puppies, you would understand, and it has been my experience from observing my mothers with their babies that the teaching doesn't even begin until 8 weeks. Before that age the interaction between mom and babies is one of care taking. Once she has weaned them, she starts to teach them. It is so amazing to watch. If you have ever observed it you would understand. She teaches them proper dog ettiquett, how to be a good pack member, and how to play nice. Breeders who routinely let their puppies go at 6 to 8 weeks, cannot tell you this because they do not know this, because they have never seen it. n So they tell yhou that they will be fine. The other aspect is that they are weaned between 6 to 8 weeks, so they are taken from their mothers and handed over to the new owner without gradually switching from mothers milk to dry kibble. Many of then don't even know what to do with kibble at that age. This cause stress and upset stomachs and possibly hypoglycemia. Which in turn leads to the new owner hand feeding the puppy, which inturn, can lead to eating issues in the future.. So please, even though you say it worked well for you. Don't advocate to other people that they do the same. You have no idea how much better it could have been. Last edited by JeanieK; 04-14-2010 at 08:54 AM. | |
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I think I was being very respectful and trying to stick up for the majority of "newbies" here that get criticized. Its just the way people are so quick to judge new moms on here when they are here to learn, just as I have. I am just saying, its overwhelming having a new pup and not knowing much about them even when you have done your homework. I am not trying to ignite a fire, I am just simply saying. I know how helpful and knowledgeable people are on here, what I mean is that they don't need to say things the way they do, thats all! So many knowledgeable people on here have helped me in so many ways and haven't made me feel bad or guilty for it while others have judged and criticized. I am not saying everyone as a whole. I just want everyone to be nice and courteous especially to someone who is about to endure a new puppy, they need support thats for sure! Thank you for your response, and I was not trying to ignite a fire and I do sincerely appreciate everything everyone does here, just want to make sure its done in the most empathetic way because we have all been there at one point whether it was last month or 30 years ago with our first pups. ![]()
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You are absolutely right. YT has been an absolute haven for me with Rocco. I also believed the breeder that he was fine to go home at 8 weeks (he was a very healthy 2.8 lbs and very well cared for in her home). I did research on YT before I got him, but somehow missed the age thing. HOWEVER, thanks to support and great advice on YT, he continues to be a healthy, content (4.9lb!) 4-month-old that has mostly stopped his inappropriate biting, and can obey commands of sit, give paw, lay down, kiss, roll over, stay and come!! KKubas, your little one will be just fine...be sure to check back on here daily for all kinds of knowledge ![]()
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YT Addict | ![]() Congratulations! Lula came to live with me when she was 10 weeks old. I took one week off from work to help her adjust to her new surroundings. I wish I took off two weeks.... Food was kind of scary. She didnt want to eat at first. I had to toss peices of chicken at her like it was a game (literally AT her, I was trying to get her to eat and it had been 2 days, out of frustration I literally threw the food at her). We did potty/crate training. If she was not in her crate she was tethered to me. I watched her 24/7. When my boyfriend finally came over I was so relieved that he was there to watch her and I could finally take a shower! And as soon as my vet said it was safe we spent as much time at the park socializing as possible. When I went back to work I hired a dog walker (that I knew very well) to come to my house once a day to take her out of her crate and play with her (I dont have a lunch hour). My boyfriend now lets her out on his lunch hour. Having this puppy in my house was very much like I would imagine its like to bring home a new human baby (luckily lula slept though the night). If you have ANY questions, please feel free to message me. and again, CONGRATULATIONS! ![]()
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Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Long Island, NY
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| ![]() I am going to go back to your question...We all always feel bad when we leave our yorkies for the day and go to work....When I leave my little one and even when he was little...I would always leave a radio on or tv (not loud) and have plenty of toys and beds for him to sleep on...Clean wee wee pads are key and the more toys the less boredem on there part and they won't eat your house..lol...I would come home if you can during lunch and check on him or get a friend to stop in and play...He will be tired out in 20 min when he is little and ready to sleep again..He will have no clue you were gone that long..Just excited to see you when you return...Personally I would not crate him...Small area...half for sleep, half for food, half for wee wee pads.....Little ones tend to eat throughout the day...I was told by my vet that if you crate them and tehy have to pee, they could get bladder infections..that is what happened to my little one..Good luck and look foward to the times you are home with him/her! |
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Mia, Max and Moe's Mom Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV
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But if you were to see the difference between one that was taken from it's mother at 6 to 8 weeks and one that was left until 10 to 12 weeks, you would realize that there is a huge dfference in their behavuior and confidence. If you have ever watched a mother teach her puppies, you would understand, and it has been my experience from observing my mothers with their babies that the teaching doesn't even begin until 8 weeks. Before that age the interaction between mom and babies is one of care taking. Once she has weaned them, she starts to teach them. It is so amazing to watch. If you have ever observed it you would understand. She teaches them proper dog ettiquett, how to be a good pack member, and how to play nice. Breeders who routinely let their puppies go at 6 to 8 weeks, cannot tell you this because they do not know this, because they have never seen it. n So they tell yhou that they will be fine. The other aspect is that they are weaned between 6 to 8 weeks, so they are taken from their mothers and handed over to the new owner without gradually switching from mothers milk to dry kibble. Many of then don't even know what to do with kibble at that age. This cause stress and upset stomachs and possibly hypoglycemia. Which in turn leads to the new owner hand feeding the puppy, which inturn, can lead to eating issues in the future.. So please, even though you say it worked well for you. Don't advocate to other people that they do the same. You have no idea how much better it could have been.[/QUOTE] Good posts Misty & Jeanie! Quote:
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