Originally Posted by bonbon (Post 3054399)

Well, as you can see YT is full of all kinds of info and help. ;) This site is full of yorkie lovers who only want the best for their babies and their breed. I hope you'll stick around and see how great this place really is. I can tell how much you care about Louis and Paris, and your precious new little one, Napoleon. :) Glad to have you here!

Originally Posted by maryeverett1 (Post 3054338)

And for the person that made the comment about it being good to know my breeder released my yorkies at 8 weeks with full breeding rights...my breeder hand and home raises every single litter of yorkies she has. She has been breeding for 17 years and does it for the love of the breed not the money. Her prices are ridiculously reasonable in comparison to what is being charged online. However she is EXTREMELY picky about her dogs and interviews extensively and has been known to turn down a lot of money if she doesn't feel that whoever is trying to buy a puppy isnt the right owner/home for the dog. She also does not sell to breeders for the most part and interviewed me extensively before releasing Louis to me. Because of the quality of care I gave Louis she was willing to release Paris to me and knew that if I intended on breeding Paris I would be the exact same type of breeder that she is! In my personal opinion Terri is the best breeder hands down because of her absolute love and devotion to the breed and her mission of making sure every single puppy finds a lifetime home! I am proud to have been priviledged enough to have gotten 2 of her gorgeous dogs and because of that have beautiful little Napoleon!!

Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 3054395)

Puppies which are the result of a biewer x yorkie breeding as referred to as
F1. A breeding of a an F1 pup to a biewer would be called F2.

I am unfamiliar with the term M1.

Biewers are not recognized by AKC. Biewers are a breed which orignated in Germany and the pedigree on both sides will trace back to the original breeding pair Fu Fu and Darling Friedheck.

The gold coloring is not the result of a "gene" per se. It is the result of a gene mutation.

Originally Posted by rbelland (Post 3054304)

Welcome to Yorkie talk!:)

I am confused, I was not aware that you could register any biewer AKC. I thought it was Parti's that could be registered with AKC. Am I wrong?

Originally Posted by maryeverett1 (Post 3054426)

Okay. As of this point I would prefer to stop talking about super technical yorkie jargon! All I know is I have 3 of the most beautiful yorkies on the planet (and I realize I am biased) 2 of which no matter how you cut it are rare. Other than those facts I'm not really concerned with or interested in discussing anything else! I really appreciate those of you who have welcomed me to yorkie talk and complimented my dogs. If you want to talk about the fun stuff I'm all for it but other than that I would prefer that the super technical stuff that no one really cares about stop being discussed at this point! Thanks and hope to see you around yorkie talk! :-)

Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 3054414)

Would that then mean that the F1 is a mixed breed?

Originally Posted by maryeverett1 (Post 3054296)

Okay guys here is the very long and confusing story on why they are called designer yorkies (and I meant Paris and Napoleon not Louis:)

Louis is an M1 gold gene carrier! His mom was blue and gold and his dad was solid gold. Louis is Napoleon's dad...he is AKC registered.

Paris is an F1 biewer gold and white gene carrier. Her dad was a golden/white biewer who was AKC registered. Her mom was a solid gold yorkie who was CKC registered. When duchess had her puppies the AKC would not let them be registered with them because at the time they did not view biewers as full bred yorkies like they do now and also would not let the litter be registered with them because duchess was CKC registered. So they had to be registered with highbred as designer. Napoleon (who is Paris and Louis' baby boy is an F1 gold and white biewer. As you can see by this highly confusing explaination none of my dogs are "designer" or mixed breeds...they are full bred yorkies. Hope that clears up any confusion and I will be editing that in my description!

Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 3054414)

Would that then mean that the F1 is a mixed breed?

Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 3054434)

It means someone has bred a yorkshire terrier to a biewer. F1 means first generation. Whether that means it's a mix depends on who you ask. ;)

Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 3054434)

It means someone has bred a yorkshire terrier to a biewer. F1 means first generation. Whether that means it's a mix depends on who you ask. ;)

Originally Posted by maryeverett1 (Post 3054442)

And btw...if this is what this site is about I'm totally done. My breeder has been absolutely amazing to me. She has allowed me to call her at 3am many times with questions, she has helped me through every single aspect of owning a yorkie and not only that she has become my lifelong friend who I didn't know prior to owning Louis. So since you do not know her AT ALL I would advise that you take your "ethical" judgements somewhere else. I have also had 4 friends who have purchased yorkies from Terri who have all found the same type of premier service through her that I received. No where in my thread did I ask for advice or clarification on my dogs. Maybe you should wait to give your advice until you are asked. I look forward to creating relationships with people who are not judgemental, are kind, welcoming and do not attack other people the first day they join! I will remember this day and make sure that I am welcoming to other people who join this site. Wow.

Originally Posted by maryeverett1 (Post 3054426)

Okay. As of this point I would prefer to stop talking about super technical yorkie jargon! All I know is I have 3 of the most beautiful yorkies on the planet (and I realize I am biased) 2 of which no matter how you cut it are rare. Other than those facts I'm not really concerned with or interested in discussing anything else! I really appreciate those of you who have welcomed me to yorkie talk and complimented my dogs. If you want to talk about the fun stuff I'm all for it but other than that I would prefer that the super technical stuff that no one really cares about stop being discussed at this point! Thanks and hope to see you around yorkie talk! :-)