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Cerise 03-10-2010 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 3034282)
Seriously? These are sacrifices that we make as pet owners. I'd be willing to be that the number of people who want to take their dogs everywhere they go are definately the minority by quite a large margin. They are not "allowed everywhere" for a plethera of very valid reasons. :thumbup: And stating that dogs should be allowed in places if children are allowed? :confused: Dogs are dogs, children are humans. There is no comparision. I just don't get that logic at all, but I see it stated quite frequently.

I would never board my pets either. Thankfully, I have a plethera of friends, family, neighbors who are generally willing to sit them while I'm gone. But I would never get mad or upset with them if they weren't willing to do that, for whatever reason. My dogs are MY responsibility, not theirs.

I agree that I think there should be more dog friendly parks and recreational opportunities. I don't think that every store, hotel and restaraunt should start allowing them in though.

Thank goodness I live in a city that allows us to take small dogs in places. Most of the time it's bad children that need to be banned from places. I've seen too many accidents with children running wild in public places when they shouldn't have been, or screaming and acting hysterical. Parents who can't control their children should have to read a warning sign before entering. It's very disturbing and I'm not talking about an innocent new born baby. They are the exception. I've also seen dogs behave far better than some children at these places as well.

BamaFan121s 03-10-2010 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Cerise (Post 3034318)
Thank goodness I live in a city that allows us to take small dogs in places. Most of the time it's bad children that need to be banned from places. I've seen too many accidents with children running wild in public places when they shouldn't have been, or screaming and acting hysterical. Parents who can't control their children should have to read a warning sign before entering. It's very disturbing and I'm not talking about an innocent new born baby. They are the exception. I've also seen dogs behave far better than some children at these places as well.
Oh I defiantely agree with you there. I'm not saying that some dogs are not more behaved than some children. Some kids can just be holy terrors. :eek: (Then again, so can some adults.) I definately think that as a parent, it's your responsibilty to make sure your kids know how to act when you take them somewhere. But as far as children and dogs getting equal "rights"....no, that's absurd. In that capacity, there is no basis for comparison of the two.

yorkieusa 03-10-2010 09:03 AM
I suppose the simple answer to your question is that stores would be overrun by dogs of all sizes, dangerous and non-dangerous, clean and filthy, healthy and diseased.

Cerise 03-10-2010 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 3034343)
Oh I defiantely agree with you there. I'm not saying that some dogs are not more behaved than some children. Some kids can just be holy terrors. :eek: (Then again, so can some adults.) I definately think that as a parent, it's your responsibilty to make sure your kids know how to act when you take them somewhere. But as far as children and dogs getting equal "rights"....no, that's absurd. In that capacity, there is no basis for comparison of the two.

I agree! :) Though I do know some of us who are empty nesters or those who are childless feel our dogs are our children :rolleyes: our furkids LOL

Britster 03-10-2010 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ARCHIE (Post 3034262)
I for one, understand your frustration. I'm in the same boat. I would die
to go back to Disney with my daughter and family. I've not been there
with my youngest granddaughter yet. I have been there 3 times with
her sister and I feel so bad not to be able to share in her joy.
I don't trust my other daughter because her yard is not fenced in and
her pug runs the neighborhood. To find someone for 10 days to stay in
my home is impossible. I would never kennel him again. Did once when
he was 10mos old for three days and he picked up a parasite.
So I guess I'm not going anywhere:( The only one I trust him with
is the daughter I want to go away with:aimeeyork
Oh, I wish we lived closer. I would love to watch Buddy for you! I also wanted to add that Disney is creating a new pet friendly hotel, I believe, but I'm not sure when it opens. They also have a brand new dog park somewhere. My dad used to go every year and they stayed at Ft. Wilderness in their RV but they also have little cabins and they allow dogs. Every park has a boarding facility as well but I don't know how clean they are, etc.

MommysBabyRoxy 03-10-2010 12:08 PM
When I first joined YorkieTalk... I remember making a nice thread complaining about not being able to take Roxy in places, and that she was cleaner than all the little mongrels running around stores with snots on their faces that their parents cant control... lol.

I would understand if no pets or KIDS were allowed, but if you allow little gross brats (not saying they all are, but there are always a few) and they can touch stuff I might buy... ech.

And... I think we all have seen or heard that kid that just makes us want to pull our hair out or slap them or their parents upside the head for their actions or appearance... as in cleanliness.

Roxy is a VERY clean Yorkie and very WELL behaved. I believe that children parents and furbaby parents should be responsible.

If your kids are up to date on their shots and clean and well mannered, bring them out. If your dogs are up to date on their shots, well mannered, clean and maintained, bring them out.

Otherwise, keep them at home.

France does it. :) In fact, a lot of Europe does that, I might move there eventually... and in France, your dogs can even come to the restaurant and sit right at the table with you! :eek: Because they consider their dogs like family... which is how it should be.

Cerise 03-10-2010 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MommysBabyRoxy (Post 3034602)
When I first joined YorkieTalk... I remember making a nice thread complaining about not being able to take Roxy in places, and that she was cleaner than all the little mongrels running around stores with snots on their faces that their parents cant control... lol.

I would understand if no pets or KIDS were allowed, but if you allow little gross brats (not saying they all are, but there are always a few) and they can touch stuff I might buy... ech.

And... I think we all have seen or heard that kid that just makes us want to pull our hair out or slap them or their parents upside the head for their actions or appearance... as in cleanliness.

Roxy is a VERY clean Yorkie and very WELL behaved. I believe that children parents and furbaby parents should be responsible.

If your kids are up to date on their shots and clean and well mannered, bring them out. If your dogs are up to date on their shots, well mannered, clean and maintained, bring them out.

Otherwise, keep them at home.

France does it. :) In fact, a lot of Europe does that, I might move there eventually... and in France, your dogs can even come to the restaurant and sit right at the table with you! :eek: Because they consider their dogs like family... which is how it should be.

:D You and I could be best buds! I feel the exact same way and tell many people that know me these exact same thoughts. They of course think I'm nuts but do I care what they think? NO! Most of them don't know what they like or believe in. I also love the PINK letters in your post!

BamaFan121s 03-10-2010 12:20 PM
Thus providing a great example of my point.... The logic of "what's good for one is good for the other" baffles me everytime. The logic that dogs deserve equal rights as humans or vice versa is ridiculous. The same rules don't apply.

One thing that I have learned from these threads the past few days: Don't plan to visit France any time soon--their priorities are clearly even futher out there than I'd originally thought. ;)

Cerise 03-10-2010 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 3034614)
Thus providing a great example of my point.... The logic of "what's good for one is good for the other" baffles me everytime. The logic that dogs deserve equal rights as humans or vice versa is ridiculous. The same rules don't apply, but as always, kudos for creativeness. Problem is: Who's going to be the judge of what should be acceptable behaviour/cleanliness? There is no way to draw the line...thus the rowdy kids that you can see out and about on any given day.

One thing that I have learned from these threads the past few days: Don't plan to visit France any time soon--their priorities are clearly even futher out there than I'd originally thought. ;)

:D I can't do nothing but laugh because I just had a feeling you were going to come and tell us France lovers something...LOL :)

BamaFan121s 03-10-2010 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Cerise (Post 3034633)
:D I can't do nothing but laugh because I just had a feeling you were going to come and tell us France lovers something...LOL :)
Oh, just joking you know. I have no hard feelings towards you French-lovers. :D Although I do frequently cringe when I see statements that WE should do things more like XYZ country.

Kind of like the old saying, "Well if France jumped off a bridge..."

QuickSilver 03-10-2010 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkieusa (Post 3034389)
I suppose the simple answer to your question is that stores would be overrun by dogs of all sizes, dangerous and non-dangerous, clean and filthy, healthy and diseased.
This could easily be avoided by mandating that you be able to pick your dog up, ie, a small, controllable dog. You can also easily have rules that if your dog is disturbing patrons in any way (barking, etc), that it has to be removed. It would be nice to have a rule like that in place for screaming kids!

spiritwings1202 03-10-2010 12:35 PM
I know it is so hard to travel when you have fur kids. We drive to SC from CT every year and bring our dogs. I go online and look for pet friendly hotels. I even belong to a website called take your pet.com you can type in any place and it will give you a list of pet friendly hotels in the area.
I really don't fly much bc we can't take our fur kids. Daisy is too big and I would NEVER put her with cargo. She would just FREAK OUT!!!

My kids were going to send us on a 30 th anniversary trip and I said we can't go I have noone to watch the fur kids. I have 3 grown children but they live too far away. I am thinking of locating a pet sitter. It is so hard to be able to trust someone. When I lived in another town when Daisy was about 2 we had a wonderful girl who was licenced and she would come over and walk Daisy for about a half hr. That way if we wanted to go somewhere I would have her come over and it broke up the time for Daisy.
I hate leaving them alone for more than 3-4 hrs. I guess it is a good thing that I don't work anymore. lol

Cerise 03-10-2010 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 3034636)
Oh, just joking you know. I have no hard feelings towards you French-lovers. :D Although I do frequently cringe when I see statements that WE should do things more like XYZ country.

Kind of like the old saying, "Well if France jumped off a bridge..."

LOL!!! Then I'd become rebellious if they told me to do it and probably start shouting USA! It must be the French in me! LOL!

MommysBabyRoxy 03-10-2010 12:38 PM
People might think I'm crazy... but I do consider my dog to be just as important as any persons child.

I DO think that a dog should have the same rights as a human (within their ability of course... I mean, they cant really vote.. but my vote is half for Roxy and half for me. :))

Each person is obviously welcome to their own opinion, and some ppl feel like their dogs are their dogs, and their kids are their kids... but I feel like Roxy is my kid... and deserves the same respect as any child.

Children need shots, and children bite too. lol, so some ppl might not be able to compare their dogs to children, but theyre just like babies... ya know, the cute things they are before they become the snot nosed brats... lol.

In all actuality, I will probably not have children, and Roxy and Lexi are my babies.

Thanks Cerise, definely sounds like we have something in common. ;) Thats a good thing for sure! To our furbabies! :p To France! :cheers:

MommysBabyRoxy 03-10-2010 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by QuickSilver (Post 3034639)
This could easily be avoided by mandating that you be able to pick your dog up, ie, a small, controllable dog. You can also easily have rules that if your dog is disturbing patrons in any way (barking, etc), that it has to be removed. It would be nice to have a rule like that in place for screaming kids!
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

AGREED!


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