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BanditSocks2 03-07-2010 10:21 AM

What is the living situation? Would it be possible financially and legally to live without the roommate? It seems like one has to go unfortunately. It's not fair to either your rescue or her s**t-tzu to be in that house with each other. I wouldn't trust your dog with her anymore, and you can't trust those two dogs alone. It seems her leaving would be the best.

Rizzo's mom 03-07-2010 11:00 AM

Roommate leaving ASAP.................
 
Thank you all for your posts. I do not take offense at anyone’s comments (at least not yet) :pThis frustrating because this is the 3rd response post I have written and when I hit submit it went into cyberspace and was not posted. I will have to talk with administrators about that……….
Anyway I need to address a few more issues here about the situation. First of all I AM the OWNER of the home and this woman came in as a tenant to rent a room. I have had to for financial reasons the last few months. Everyone that stays here is briefed on my commitment to rescue yorkie dogs, this is discussed with all their references PRIOR to anyone living here. She had glowing references about her love of dogs!
What I am saying is sometimes you don’t know what someone will do be it right or wrong before the situation presents itself. I am shocked (she is a 10yr dog owner) at her ignorance and lack of presence of mind in an emergency animal situation.
It was her daughter that does NOT live here that perpetrated this abuse, however the tenant even though she was upset at the extreme action taken by her daughter and did not see the actual abuse from where she was standing she in the end justified and blamed Rocco.
Rocco IS with my husband or me 24/7 because I work at home. If we leave he goes with us. Tenant has been keeping her dog in her room since this has happened and avoiding. However that does not solve the problem long term. I have discussed this with my ytnr director and tenant has to go and will be leaving ASAP. We take this very seriously. I do not carelessly just have anyone around my animals. If a roommate is not up for my rescue and what that entails then this is not the place for them.
Bottom line she is behind in her rent, dog situation is a deal-breaker for me she could not pay me a million dollars to live here. I have recourse according to rental contract to evict her for non-payment of rent and so be it….she is outta here! Her daughter can take her crappy attitude somewhere else.:thumbdown
P.S sorry this is soooooo long but thanks for listening!
Foster mommy to Rocco:animal37

Rizzo's mom 03-07-2010 11:03 AM

Ah computers
 
If you see multiple posts by me I am sorry my computer was just freezing up and then they ALL went........:rolleyes:

livingdustmops 03-07-2010 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rizzo's mom (Post 3030640)
Thank you all for your posts. I do not take offense at anyone’s comments (at least not yet) :pThis frustrating because this is the 3rd response post I have written and when I hit submit it went into cyberspace and was not posted. I will have to talk with administrators about that……….
Anyway I need to address a few more issues here about the situation. First of all I AM the OWNER of the home and this woman came in as a tenant to rent a room. I have had to for financial reasons the last few months. Everyone that stays here is briefed on my commitment to rescue yorkie dogs, this is discussed with all their references PRIOR to anyone living here. She had glowing references about her love of dogs!
What I am saying is sometimes you don’t know what someone will do be it right or wrong before the situation presents itself. I am shocked (she is a 10yr dog owner) at her ignorance and lack of presence of mind in an emergency animal situation.
It was her daughter that does NOT live here that perpetrated this abuse, however the tenant even though she was upset at the extreme action taken by her daughter and did not see the actual abuse from where she was standing she in the end justified and blamed Rocco.
Rocco IS with my husband or me 24/7 because I work at home. If we leave he goes with us. Tenant has been keeping her dog in her room since this has happened and avoiding. However that does not solve the problem long term. I have discussed this with my ytnr director and tenant has to go and will be leaving ASAP. We take this very seriously. I do not carelessly just have anyone around my animals. If a roommate is not up for my rescue and what that entails then this is not the place for them.
Bottom line she is behind in her rent, dog situation is a deal-breaker for me she could not pay me a million dollars to live here. I have recourse according to rental contract to evict her for non-payment of rent and so be it….she is outta here! Her daughter can take her crappy attitude somewhere else.:thumbdown
P.S sorry this is soooooo long but thanks for listening!
Foster mommy to Rocco:animal37

Glad to hear..and sorry one more person lied about how they really feel about animals..

BellaBlue82 03-07-2010 11:16 AM

Yea, I am so glad that you are kicking her out! Now you and your rescue baby can live in peace!

yorkie_mama22 03-07-2010 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rizzo's mom (Post 3030640)
Thank you all for your posts. I do not take offense at anyone’s comments (at least not yet) :pThis frustrating because this is the 3rd response post I have written and when I hit submit it went into cyberspace and was not posted. I will have to talk with administrators about that……….
Anyway I need to address a few more issues here about the situation. First of all I AM the OWNER of the home and this woman came in as a tenant to rent a room. I have had to for financial reasons the last few months. Everyone that stays here is briefed on my commitment to rescue yorkie dogs, this is discussed with all their references PRIOR to anyone living here. She had glowing references about her love of dogs!
What I am saying is sometimes you don’t know what someone will do be it right or wrong before the situation presents itself. I am shocked (she is a 10yr dog owner) at her ignorance and lack of presence of mind in an emergency animal situation.
It was her daughter that does NOT live here that perpetrated this abuse, however the tenant even though she was upset at the extreme action taken by her daughter and did not see the actual abuse from where she was standing she in the end justified and blamed Rocco.
Rocco IS with my husband or me 24/7 because I work at home. If we leave he goes with us. Tenant has been keeping her dog in her room since this has happened and avoiding. However that does not solve the problem long term. I have discussed this with my ytnr director and tenant has to go and will be leaving ASAP. We take this very seriously. I do not carelessly just have anyone around my animals. If a roommate is not up for my rescue and what that entails then this is not the place for them.
Bottom line she is behind in her rent, dog situation is a deal-breaker for me she could not pay me a million dollars to live here. I have recourse according to rental contract to evict her for non-payment of rent and so be it….she is outta here! Her daughter can take her crappy attitude somewhere else.:thumbdown
P.S sorry this is soooooo long but thanks for listening!
Foster mommy to Rocco:animal37



I think that puts everything more into view the way you have explained it. You do a terrific job rescuing the babies. I'm glad your kicking the lady out. Good luck.

kandikalistar 03-07-2010 02:53 PM

I'm so glad you're removing her from your home. She doesn't deserve to be there where you are helping less fortunate animals. You're doing the right thing!

:heart toKandi

BamaFan121s 03-07-2010 08:21 PM

I commend you for taking in a rescue and trying to work with him to correct his behavior and give him a better home. I'm actually very shocked that a rescue would place an unaltered dog. :confused: Hopefully, once Rocco is fixed it will help out some.
Sounds like you have a pretty serious situation on your hands. Not sure exactly of the legal aspects of the living arrangements between you and this lady, so don't know what advice to give there. While I do not for one second condone the way the lady and her daughter handled the situation :thumbdown, I can understand why they are upset. I'm assuming that they've had their Shih Tzu for a while? Longer than you've had Rocco? Put yourself in their situation. From what you've said, your dog is attacking theirs....repeatedly. I can understand their concern over the welfare of their own dog. I don't think that many people would stand for allowing their dog to be jumped on over and over again. (Although again, abusing Rocco in return is not only cruel, but not helping matters at all.:mad:)
As harsh as it sounds, I have to agree with what some of the other posters have stated--this does not sound like the best environment for Rocco. :( It sounds like he would be better suited in a one-dog home. I also worry that you cannot be there 24/7 to monitor the situation, which seems like a bit much to handle when you ARE there as it is.

I don't know what the best solution is, but it's going to take some cooperation on BOTH your and your roommate's parts to solve. I hope all works out for the best for you all.

megooego 03-07-2010 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 3031309)
I commend you for taking in a rescue and trying to work with him to correct his behavior and give him a better home. I'm actually very shocked that a rescue would place an unaltered dog. :confused: Hopefully, once Rocco is fixed it will help out some.
Sounds like you have a pretty serious situation on your hands. Not sure exactly of the legal aspects of the living arrangements between you and this lady, so don't know what advice to give there. While I do not for one second condone the way the lady and her daughter handled the situation :thumbdown, I can understand why they are upset. I'm assuming that they've had their Shih Tzu for a while? Longer than you've had Rocco? Put yourself in their situation. From what you've said, your dog is attacking theirs....repeatedly. I can understand their concern over the welfare of their own dog. I don't think that many people would stand for allowing their dog to be jumped on over and over again. (Although again, abusing Rocco in return is not only cruel, but not helping matters at all.:mad:)
As harsh as it sounds, I have to agree with what some of the other posters have stated--this does not sound like the best environment for Rocco. :( It sounds like he would be better suited in a one-dog home. I also worry that you cannot be there 24/7 to monitor the situation, which seems like a bit much to handle when you ARE there as it is.

I don't know what the best solution is, but it's going to take some cooperation on BOTH your and your roommate's parts to solve. I hope all works out for the best for you all.

I don't believe that YTNR placed an unaltered dog, I think the OP is fostering the dog and he will eventually be adopted out to another home, assuming he will be neutered first.

Regardless, I agree with what you said. :thumbup: This dog has already been through so much. Now that you have rescued him, he needs to be in a safe environment, free from any sort of abuse. I am glad to see that you are resolving the situation, and your roommate will no longer be staying with you.

Rizzo's mom 03-07-2010 09:29 PM

ytnr would not place an unaltered dog EVER!
 
Let me explain how rescue works because there are comments about ytnr rescue placing an unaltered dog when nothing could be further from the truth!

Here is how it goes....the shelter calls ytnr rescue to pick up a yorkie that lands in its shelter.
Most of the time any yorkie picked up from the shelter is NOT spayed or neutered. So ytnr has the foster mom take the dog in and provide care while waiting for the soonest spay or neuter appointment or any vetting that can be obtained. Usually this is a several month wait.
YTNR can and sometimes does put the rescue dog on the website while all the vetting (including spay & neuter) is completed.
Ideally we wish the shelter would spay or neuter BEFORE releasing the dog to us but they won't.
Again my roommate was pre-screened for her cooperation and understanding of dogs and my rescue work BEFORE coming here. It is just frusterating because it appears in practice that she really does not know much about dogs in general but only about HER dog.
Rocco has been with me or my husband EVERY min. since this happened and will be until she moves out in a few days!
Foster mommy to Rocco :animal37

megooego 03-07-2010 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rizzo's mom (Post 3031354)
Let me explain how rescue works because there are comments about ytnr rescue placing an unaltered dog when nothing could be further from the truth!

Here is how it goes....the shelter calls ytnr rescue to pick up a yorkie that lands in its shelter.
Most of the time any yorkie picked up from the shelter is NOT spayed or neutered. So ytnr has the foster mom take the dog in and provide care while waiting for the soonest spay or neuter appointment or any vetting that can be obtained. Usually this is a several month wait.
YTNR can and sometimes does put the rescue dog on the website while all the vetting (including spay & neuter) is completed.
Ideally we wish the shelter would spay or neuter BEFORE releasing the dog to us but they won't.
Again my roommate was pre-screened for her cooperation and understanding of dogs and my rescue work BEFORE coming here. It is just frusterating because it appears in practice that she really does not know much about dogs in general but only about HER dog.
Rocco has been with me or my husband EVERY min. since this happened and will be until she moves out in a few days!
Foster mommy to Rocco :animal37

I believe that they just misunderstood and did not realize that you were fostering Rocco, not adopting him.

jencar98 03-07-2010 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rizzo's mom (Post 3031354)
Let me explain how rescue works because there are comments about ytnr rescue placing an unaltered dog when nothing could be further from the truth!

Here is how it goes....the shelter calls ytnr rescue to pick up a yorkie that lands in its shelter.
Most of the time any yorkie picked up from the shelter is NOT spayed or neutered. So ytnr has the foster mom take the dog in and provide care while waiting for the soonest spay or neuter appointment or any vetting that can be obtained. Usually this is a several month wait.

I'm curious as to why it takes so long to get an appointment...several months? I've worked for or with several rescues and have most usually had a dog altered with the first couple of weeks of taking them in.....I've never had to wait even a month.

capt_noonie 03-07-2010 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rizzo's mom (Post 3031354)
Let me explain how rescue works because there are comments about ytnr rescue placing an unaltered dog when nothing could be further from the truth!

Here is how it goes....the shelter calls ytnr rescue to pick up a yorkie that lands in its shelter.
Most of the time any yorkie picked up from the shelter is NOT spayed or neutered. So ytnr has the foster mom take the dog in and provide care while waiting for the soonest spay or neuter appointment or any vetting that can be obtained. Usually this is a several month wait.
YTNR can and sometimes does put the rescue dog on the website while all the vetting (including spay & neuter) is completed.
Ideally we wish the shelter would spay or neuter BEFORE releasing the dog to us but they won't.
Again my roommate was pre-screened for her cooperation and understanding of dogs and my rescue work BEFORE coming here. It is just frusterating because it appears in practice that she really does not know much about dogs in general but only about HER dog.
Rocco has been with me or my husband EVERY min. since this happened and will be until she moves out in a few days!
Foster mommy to Rocco :animal37

I just want to put in my 2 cents also. Some of you may know I am newly with ytnr as well. Sometime, most times, these yorkies are in bad situations and need to be taken out of it asap. Sometimes they are not spayed. For ex my foster Katie aka Keichi, she had bladderstones and needed surgery asap. We found a vet local to me and got it done. She is now staying with me. She is spayed, HOWEVER, if she had not been, I still would of had her here with me. Doesn't mean she was placed with me, I'm just fostering her. If she wasn't spayed, she would have been before being placed in her forever home.

Also, CA along with many other states, is having such a hard time with people losing their homes and thusly giving up their pets so rescues need all the help they can get. I don't own my own home, in fact I lost mine 2 yrs ago. BUT I live with my bf and his family. In most cases I would not have been approved for foster, but since CA is in such extreme need, I was. Also, there are fosters who live in condos or apts in CA that have also been approved. Bc there is such need, some rules have been bent a little, but the interview process is still there.

To the OP, I know what it's like to have to rent out a room, I've been there, but also I'm so glad the renter is out of there. I'm sure Rocco has been through a lot. I think he needs some "me" time. You'll find someone better, hopefully an animal lover without a pet. Rocco should be the priority.

MommysBabyRoxy 03-07-2010 10:10 PM

I wouldnt have wasted a moment calling the cops and pressing charges on the girl, and if I owned the home, Id be telling her mother she needed to get out asap as well.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of ppl who only have love for their dogs. If I would have seen someone throw my dog... I would have probably beat the sh*t out of them or smacked the hell out of them... and the only thing that would keep me from doing that would be running out, getting my dog, locking them out and calling the cops on them.

Then, I would feel so guilty, I would take the baby to the hospital and then make the call that I probably couldnt take care of a furbaby because of the circumstances, but I would be evicting my tenant because of what happened along with other reasons, I am pressing charges against the person who did it, and when they are gone, I could continue fostering.

I would have loved to feel her face under my fist tho.

They are so tiny... and the fact that this could even have been possible... is a bad sign... sorry to say. :( No matter what, there shouldnt have even been the opportunity for this to happen.

He wont forget. :( I feel so bad.


Quote:

Originally Posted by mommadog1 (Post 3030387)
Rocco was 'ok'? NEVER! every time someone hurts a dog they remember it, forever!

You should have called the police the second you saw this. forget arguing with her. And if I were you I would still call them!

I am sorry to say this, this whole thing is so avoidable and awful, but why would you allow him to be in such an environment? Who owns the home. or on the lease? I would evict this woman, and get a restraining order against the daughter.

If the roommate cannot be kicked out then I would either move, or take the dog back to the rescue. This is a bad situation for this little dog.

I am sure you want the best for him..

Completely Agree.

AbbysMom08 03-07-2010 11:06 PM

omg!!!!:eek:
I am so sorry your little one went through this.
I think you had more restraint than I would have had.
I probably would have done the same thing to her to see how she likes it.
People, (and I use that term lightly), that would put a hand on an animal in that manner disgust me and should be treated the same way. I'm just sick to my stomach about this whole thing and would LOVE to come face to face with her.
Sorry for ranting.


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