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TammyJM 02-03-2010 06:06 PM
Does Anyone Know What A Parti Yorkie Undocked Tail Looks Like?
 
The day that we had scheduled to take Livi's babies in to get their tails docked was the morning that everything happened and we almost lost her. Soooo, obviously, we didn't add to the stress of everything by taking the puppies to the vet that day. I was wondering if anyone knows if her parti babies will have a tail that looks like the Biewer? I LOVEEEEEEEEE the full fluffy look of the Biewer tail...so pretty!!!! I have noticed that the Yorkie undocked tail does not have the same look. Please, no one get upset with me for writing this...I have just noticed that the hair looks so thick on the Biewer tail. I have never seen a parti Yorkie with an undocked tail so I am just curious what they might look like and if anyone has seen one or possibly have pictures to share.

Thanks!
Tammy

my2boyz 02-03-2010 06:11 PM
I haven't seen a full tail on a Parti but I can't imagine it would look that much different than a Biewer if the dog is in full coat. Some Biewers have thick coats and some have thinner coats so all of their tails don't look the same either. I love the long tail and, contrary to what some believe, it doesn't get in the way of things...if you know what I mean ;)

TammyJM 02-03-2010 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by my2boyz (Post 2986493)
I haven't seen a full tail on a Parti but I can't imagine it would look that much different than a Biewer if the dog is in full coat. Some Biewers have thick coats and some have thinner coats so all of their tails don't look the same either. I love the long tail and, contrary to what some believe, it doesn't get in the way of things...if you know what I mean ;)
HAHAHA!!! I hadn't even thought about it getting in the way. TOO FUNNY! I have seen Yorkie undocked tails that look thin, but the Biewer tail is soooo full and I love the way that it just falls...or is it more accurate to say, it drapes. It's just so cute...so pretty...and I hoping that the undocked parti tail looks the same.

Brooklynn 02-03-2010 06:19 PM
I would assume that it would have the tail of a yorkie as supposedly the Biewer is not a yorkie. But that is just my guess. Isn't a parti a yorkie with white on it and a Biewer is not a yorkie? I just don't know enough about the Biewer to know...but assuming since a parti is suppose to be yorkie I would again guess it would have a yorkie tail. Does that make sense?

jencar98 02-03-2010 06:20 PM
Does Anyone Know What A Parti Yorkie Undocked Tail Looks Like?

Biewer people don't hit me....but....a Biewer?:)

TammyJM 02-03-2010 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 2986506)
Isn't a parti a yorkie with white on it and a Biewer is not a yorkie?
Well, depends on who you ask. :)

TammyJM 02-03-2010 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 2986507)
Biewer people don't hit me....but....a Biewer?:)
:confused:

Are you saying that the "Biewer people" would be offended by that statement????

Brooklynn 02-03-2010 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 2986519)
Well, depends on who you ask. :)
Well let me rephrase LOL...I'm going to say a yorkie since I have heard a parti is considered a yorkie and is registered as a yorkie and a biewer is not considered a yorkie from what I hear LOL...UNLESS your parti babies are cotton coated like a yorkie can be then maybe it would have a full tail LOL...

TammyJM 02-03-2010 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 2986527)
Well let me rephrase LOL...I'm going to say a yorkie since I have heard a parti is considered a yorkie and is registered as a yorkie and a biewer is not considered a yorkie from what I hear LOL...UNLESS your parti babies are cotton coated like a yorkie can be then maybe it would have a full tail LOL...
Gotcha..thanks Donna! Maybe someone will have some pictures to share with me. I don't really need to know...just excited about my new babies.

livingdustmops 02-03-2010 06:45 PM
A biewer is a Yorkie (only 1 group says it is not to get into AKC) so I also believe a Parti and a Biewer is the same dog via pedigree's then a Parti with a tail will look like a Biewer.

my2boyz 02-03-2010 06:49 PM
Tammy...let me put it this way...I have 2 female Biewers who have a ton of hair with a combination cottony/silky coat and their tail hair is thick...I have 2 males with thinner silk coats and their tail hair is thinner. All of them have beautiful plumes for tails that drape over their backs and I would imagine your Yorkie would too. I love the long tails and if it gets too long you can trim it just like the rest of their hair.

Breny 02-03-2010 06:54 PM
Does Anyone Know What A Parti Yorkie Undocked Tail Looks Like?
 
Ahhhhh yup.... a Biewer ;)


Quote:
Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 2986482)
The day that we had scheduled to take Livi's babies in to get their tails docked was the morning that everything happened and we almost lost her. Soooo, obviously, we didn't add to the stress of everything by taking the puppies to the vet that day. I was wondering if anyone knows if her parti babies will have a tail that looks like the Biewer? I LOVEEEEEEEEE the full fluffy look of the Biewer tail...so pretty!!!! I have noticed that the Yorkie undocked tail does not have the same look. Please, no one get upset with me for writing this...I have just noticed that the hair looks so thick on the Biewer tail. I have never seen a parti Yorkie with an undocked tail so I am just curious what they might look like and if anyone has seen one or possibly have pictures to share.

Thanks!
Tammy

Brooklynn 02-03-2010 06:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 2986542)
Gotcha..thanks Donna! Maybe someone will have some pictures to share with me. I don't really need to know...just excited about my new babies.
Tammy I have a legitimate question regarding the parti....are parti's a silk coated dog or a cotton coated dog? I know with the standard yorkie we can have several types of coat but the silk is preferred so in partis is it just the color or is it a different coat texture or both? I don't know much about the Biewer because I only breed yorkies to the standard and try to achieve what the standard calls for...
I'm glad Livi and the babies are doing good and you have proved to be a very strong person and dedicated to your babies. You know we disagree on the parti vs the standard but I applaud you for your courage, strength and love for you babies!!!
Donna

jencar98 02-03-2010 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 2986523)
:confused:

Are you saying that the "Biewer people" would be offended by that statement????
IDK if they would be offended but my suggestion "a Biewer" may show my ignorance of the differences between the two and I didn't mean to offend.

TammyJM 02-03-2010 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by my2boyz (Post 2986551)
Tammy...let me put it this way...I have 2 female Biewers who have a ton of hair with a combination cottony/silky coat and their tail hair is thick...I have 2 males with thinner silk coats and their tail hair is thinner. All of them have beautiful plumes for tails that drape over their backs and I would imagine your Yorkie would too. I love the long tails and if it gets too long you can trim it just like the rest of their hair.
Thank you so much!!! I adore the look of the Biewer tail!

Breny 02-03-2010 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 2986542)
Maybe someone will have some pictures to share with me. I don't really need to know...just excited about my new babies.
here you go, a pup from my last litter

TammyJM 02-03-2010 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Breny (Post 2986562)
Ahhhhh yup.... a Biewer ;)
Ok, guys....I only asked this about the tail texture difference because I, personally, have never a Yorkie with the full tail like a Biewer....the way that it drapes....I just have not seen that on a Yorkie with an undocked tail. I'm sure they're out there, though.

Nancy1999 02-03-2010 07:12 PM
I do think some Biewers have a look that is different than a parti, especially those who both sides can be traced back to Germany. Some breeders are mixing parti's and Biewers and I believe this dilutes the Biewer line. The German Biewers seem to have a much thicker coat and they seem to be bigger boned. This would affect how the tail on each would look. A very small boned tail, with sparse hair, might look more rat-like, while a bigger boned tail with very thick hair, could be quit pleasant.

TammyJM 02-03-2010 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Breny (Post 2986583)
here you go, a pup from my last litter
Very cute....

TammyJM 02-03-2010 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2986598)
I do think some Biewers have a look that is different than a parti, especially those who both sides can be traced back to Germany. Some breeders are mixing parti's and Biewers and I believe this dilutes the Biewer line. The German Biewers seem to have a much thicker coat and they seem to be bigger boned. This would affect how the tail on each would look. A very small boned tail, with sparse hair, might look more rat-like, while a bigger boned tail with very thick hair, could be quit pleasant.
That's what I am saying (minus the rat-like description)....the Yorkie undocked appears sparse, but the Biewer is full.

I dunno....I guess I will find out as my guys get older.

TammyJM 02-03-2010 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Breny (Post 2986583)
here you go, a pup from my last litter
Do you know what the tail looks like now that he/she is a bit older? That picture is adorable!

livingdustmops 02-03-2010 07:20 PM
Look at the Italian Champion:

...::: Welcome to Yorky Club :::...

Breny 02-03-2010 07:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 2986589)
Ok, guys....I only asked this about the tail texture difference because I, personally, have never a Yorkie with the full tail like a Biewer....the way that it drapes....I just have not seen that on a Yorkie with an undocked tail. I'm sure they're out there, though.
I think depending on the coat, whether it be a Biewer or a Parti, the tail hair is going to lay different. I have a Biewer with silky hair and one with more thick soft coat, the silky coat just looks a tad bit thinner than the softer coats tail.

MauiGirl 02-03-2010 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 2986608)
That's what I am saying (minus the rat-like description)....the Yorkie undocked appears sparse, but the Biewer is full.

I dunno....I guess I will find out as my guys get older.
They are going to be ADORABLE with their lil "flags" or piggy tails.... whatever they turn out to be.

I just love the full tails on my Morkies, and wouldn't have minded if my Yorkie had one too. Can't wait to see more pics as your pups start growing more.

Breny 02-03-2010 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 2986611)
Do you know what the tail looks like now that he/she is a bit older? That picture is adorable!
You know, he is the one pup I have not gotten an update on but I did get one today on his brother. Hopefully she won't mind if I post it. Actually Tammy these are Chaos babies..
let me go resize and post

Breny 02-03-2010 07:24 PM
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OK this is a pup from the same litter at 6 1/2 months old. Looky that proud tail !!!! lol I love it!

TammyJM 02-03-2010 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MauiGirl (Post 2986618)
They are going to be ADORABLE with their lil "flags" or piggy tails.... whatever they turn out to be.

I just love the full tails on my Morkies, and wouldn't have minded if my Yorkie had one too. Can't wait to see more pics as your pups start growing more.
Awww, thanks! I am excited to see how they change as they get older. :) I bet your Morkies have cute fluffy tails.

TammyJM 02-03-2010 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 2986615)
Look at the Italian Champion:

...::: Welcome to Yorky Club :::...
Ok, that is GORGOUS!!! I have always preferred the look of the little nub, but now I am truly in love with these cute tails! :)

TammyJM 02-03-2010 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Breny (Post 2986624)
OK this is a pup from the same litter at 6 1/2 months old. Looky that proud tail !!!! lol I love it!
Brenda~

That is one spunky looking fur baby....LOVE THAT!!! Very very very cute!!

Brooklynn 02-03-2010 07:37 PM
I guess the tail hair will be what the coat will end up being...fluffy tail if their coats will be a cotton/soft coat or more sparse if a silk coat. You'll just have to wait when those gorgeous babies grow up :)
I've seen some standard yorkies from Europe with full tails in pictures and it seems the European yorkies have more of a thicker silk coat than those over here in the US. Doesn't matter anyway you'll love them anyway :)


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