Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2962188)

Really...I thought it was a pretty basic concept myself. If a breeder is implementing black/gold to enhance a blue/gold coat, then how is that not "aiming to meet the standard?"

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2962195)

Didn't you see the picture I posted? :confused: Not that it matters to me if she meets the standard or not...she's spayed. :p What's the debate here, because I'm clearly in the dark about whatever it is? Whether or not Partis meet the standard for the YT? I thought everyone here knew that they didn't because of their coloring?

Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 2962202)

Yeah, saw that picture...didn't you read my words? I said YORKIE pictures...you know, the ones that you have bred.

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2962204)

Oh, Yorkie pictures...so then because of her coloring, she's NOT a Yorkie? I thought that was the opposite of the point you were making?

And as far as "playing around with the standard," I guess that depends on what you mean. YOU were the one that brought up "enhancing," not me. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by scrapindee (Post 2961296)

A parti-yorkie is an akc registered yorkie that cannot be shown in the ring.A Biewer is a rare breed dog. Registered either in the U.S. or Germany. Come look at the Biewer Breed Club of America for complete information: Biewer Breed Club of America Inc. BBCA

Also do a search here on YT as there has been a lot of discussion about Biewers and Partis.

Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 2962208)

So are you now denying that you even own Yorkies and that you breed? You know I am not talking about the Biewer picture that I posted.

Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 2962208)

And you asked where the debate started...go back to post #20 and that should answer that question. :)

Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2962210)

Who said they cannot be shown. Please do not be giving out misinformation to people seeking knowledge. If you are going to answer a question, please make sure you have the facts.

Originally Posted by SassyAnn101 (Post 2961853)

:confused::confused::D After reading all that I still dont know the difference except for the Biewer has a tail, the Parti does not:) Either way they are Beautiful:)

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2961973)

I wasn't stating that the color variation wasn't recognized by them. Of course it is or they wouldn't be registerable. I was pointing out that a standard for partis isn't recognized by them. And it's not. I stand by what I stated...there is no set and recognized standard for parti Yorkies.

They are yhorkies, they sre acdcepted as yhorkies by the AKC and the YTCA. Their color is considered a fault, but they still go by the yorkie standard with as color fault. If they were a separate breed, they would have a different standarsd, but since they are yorkies, they go by the yorkie standard. They are first and foremost,"yorkshire terriers", second parti colored yorkshire terriers.




Just as I always state, I agree that a large majority of Yorkies do not fit every single aspect called for by the standard. No argument there. I believe most are aware than lots of dogs are produced that don't meet the standard. I even already stated that the other colors you mentioned did not have a standard as well...which is the truth.
However, that was not the point of my post. My point was to correct the mistatement that there is a standard for Partis, when in fact there isn't. :)

Sometimes statements that people make are just that...statements of fact...not challenges. Why they are always treated as such is still a mystery to me. Stating that there is no standard for Partis is just that...a statment of fact.

Originally Posted by GreenwoodBiewer (Post 2962052)

LOL.. actually.. I'm going to even make this MORE confusing.. my Parti boy KEPT his beautiful tail and ALL the Parti's that will be born at my home will keep those magnificant tails.. to mutilate that stunning part of these dogs is criminal in my mind and there is just no earthly reason to do it. Once you've seen these beautiful animals with a tail.. you'll never go back! (just my opinion of course)

-Diana :animal-pa

Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2962235)

It's pretty simple really. they are yorkies, and go by the standard with a color fault. Some day the fault will be lifted.

Originally Posted by Pinehaven (Post 2961581)

Oh my goodness ... You were misinformed that the parti colored yorkie is a result of a "genetic defect". The recessive genes for the parti color, have been in some of our dogs since the beginning of the breed, the gene is called the piebald gene.

The parti color is not a result of a defective, mutated or compromised gene as some genetically challenged/uneducated people have led you to believe, it's the result of a well known gene that produces white markings.

You need both mother and father to carry this spotting gene in order to produce the parti color, if only one parent carries the gene they will look traditional colored. If the carrier breeds to a non carrier, all of their pups will look traditional in color but 1/2 of the litter will carry the piebald gene, the other half did not receive a copy of the gene from their parti gene carrying parent. This can go on for many, many, many years and generations and will go undiscovered until the carrier offspring is bred to another parti gene carrier ... and than SURPRISE! :eek:

I am no Biewer expert ... but depending on which Biewer group you talk to, the Biewer is the same as a parti colored yorkie, in that they were produced from two traditional colored yorkshire terrier parents who both carried the parti gene. Unfortunately, this color was denied registration with their foreign kennel registry, so a club was started with their own registry, which allowed the parti colored biewers to be registered.

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2962022)

That's just it...you are NOT breeding to the set YT standard--you are following a standard with modifications. There is no set standard for YTs that includes parti coloring.

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2962041)

So then any dog that *can be registered with AKC* meets standard? I think not. :p AKC registerable and meeting a standard are not synonomous with one another. :rolleyes: Two completely different aspects altogether.

One could register a 10 pound Yorkie with AKC. But if you are breeding them, you can't truthfully say you are breeding to "a standard."

Originally Posted by SassyAnn101 (Post 2962237)

:)Oh I agree 100% I just got my first Biewer a few weeks ago, and I am
In Love with her tail:)

So does a parti with a tail make them a Biewer not reg. as a Biewer?
This is too confusing to my simple mind. When I look at pictures of Parti and Biewers they basically look the same to me. All Beautiful of course:D