I am not always a big fan of Cesar Milan's methods, however one of the things he tries to stress is dog first, then breed, then name. People must always remember that small dogs are still dogs. Many of the problems that small dogs have are that they are so darn cute that we forget that they are still dogs. We carry them around and coddle them like they were children. I am a breeder with a pack of seven and if I forgot that they were dogs, total chaos would erupt in my house. The best behaved small dogs that I ever had were when my children were small and I didn't have time to coddle them. He mostly stresses that there has to be rules and that we have to stick with them and I sure don't see anything wrong with that.

i dont like his training methods i cant get them to work i like stillwells methods i feel they work better(for me) however im sure that cesar milan would not put a dog in danger any dog and as for the pitts my aunt has a pit that will terrerize (not hurt) any other pet she gets but when i bring gatsby in the house he cries and cries until i get on the floor with him (i will not let them play alone) he loves to play with gatsby because he knows that he is leaveing soon but other then that bug is a great dog pitt or not my aunt got him because she lives in a bad neighbor hood and she wanted people to think she had a big mean dog so they would not break in and he house has not been broken into once sience she got her pitt and he would never hurt a person but the fear is enoph to keep her safe

I cant watch that show it brings me to tears everytime. There was one on our news where someone put one in a trash bag and taped it up and someone found the bag moving and opened it and he was barley alive and was messed up sooooo bad I'm guess dog fighting but I'm not sure it made me so mad someone would just throw away an animal like that when they where still alive and in pain. I am scared or or pits and serval breeds of big dogs but I dont want them hurt, abused, or mistreated or anything like that. I dont see how anyone can be mean to innocent animals it makes me sick to my stomach.

Thats one of the things I heard about him and I'm not sure I agree. Callie is cuddled often and not really treated a way some people would say you treat a dog but she is my baby and she is very well behaved even being cuddled and carried in my arms like a baby and stuff. The vet techs where fighting over her the other day when we came in because she kisses them and is so sweet and will let them do anything to her without throwing a fit or anything.

There is a post in here about being mean and rude...just in case that was directed at me....

All I am trying to get across is that::

PLEASE DON'T MAKE SUCH BLANKET STATEMENTS ABOUT HATING A BREED OF DOG.

Nobody would put up with it if I stated on here "I HATE ALL BLACKS,MEXICANS,WHITES," whatever. Yes, they are trying to do breed specific laws. Just like when women and blacks could not vote.

In so many ways, we are going backwards in laws pertaining to our animals: which in many ways are family members.

If the breed of dog bites, attacks, kills..the owner is at fault...MAKE THE OWNER PAY!! Not just financially, but work in a animal shelter, vet office. Hopefully they are animal lovers, and see the damage of what can happen if you do not take care of the breed. (financial responsibility also)

Just PLEASE: think about what is said...

I understand that "you" may not ever own a pitty. I probably will never own a pitty. I just say that I can't because it is too much dog for me. I do not have the time or patience for them. Not because I hate them and anyone that owns them. Just like the Greyhounds....I am able to have the 3 itty bitty littles, because I KNOW MY DOGS!!!

I also try not to judge anyone that owns them either. If you have the knowledge, and time, and patience...YEAHHHH. Another DOG has a home!!

Just so you know, here is a list of dogs that I will probably never own: or own again.

Chow, German Shepherd, Rotty, any mastiff, and list goes on. Oh, and another Doxie. Love the doxie, BUT in my experience the barking is more than I can do anymore. **had 5 doxies over my lifetime.

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One bite from a Lab, GSD, Dobie, Rottie etc and it can be fatal...I know people whose Yorkies have killed other Yorkies..

I didnt say I hated pitbulls dear goodness I said I was afraid of them. You just said that doxies are barkers and I know one women who has had many many and they were not barkers. Why is it ok for you to say a breed does a certain thing but not me?

I have to agree... Ares is so cute I forget about dog, breed, ect. I find myself torn when it comes to sticking to a program. I am however working everyday with Ares and Tank to ensure that I try to meet their needs! With my maltipoo I made the same mistake in the past, but with Ares & Tank I strive everyday to meet their needs! I even allow Ares to dig... lol his little nose is always to the ground. With Tank he "boxes" with nose our kid's ball!

Because I said in MY EXPERIENCE, so I am making an informed decision! If you had owned a pitty and said it as such, then I would not have freaked as badly. You said that he was putting his family and animals, (not verbatim) at risk. Not a fair assumption.

Im so done with this. Its annoying and wrong to be picked on because of something your scared of. Sorry if I offened ANYONE but I am scared of pitbulls and a few different larger breeds and ALL not just pitbulls could be dangerous to smaller dogs. End of it I'm done very over done I well done.

The whole principle is that, if you are the pack leader, you can coddle the dog and it still knows that you are in charge.

But when you start giving in to the dogs demands, or letting it chew on you or hump you, then you are not the leader and the dog will take over if it is an alpha or become neurotic if it is a submissive dog.

It is just like raising a houseful of kids. I raised 6 children, as a single mother. the kids had to know that I was still in charge even when I was at ork or I would have lost all colntrol.

I might say I did a better job of raising my kids while I was at work, than many of my neighbrs did when they were right there at home.

There is a difference between spoiling a child/dog with love, and allowing them to take over.

I have 8 dogs, someone has to be in charge, and it's going to be me. :D

Cesar's philosophy is exercise, discipline and affection. In that order, so as long as you do the other two you can cuddle all you want.

People seem to judge him without really knowing what he's really teaching.

So sad that you can't have a discussion on a topic without Drama!! I didn't see anyone picking on you! Just trying to clarify the phrases of speech you use. And not condemn all for your bad experiences.

Oh come on you where putting words in my mouth so I am done talking about it with you. No drama just me being done theres nothing more to say about it anyway. It just goes back and forth back and forth with it and no ones mind is going to be changed. Its not drama just me knowing when something needs to end.

While I am NOT a fan of his, I would not attack his character. He obviously loves all animals :)

I can see this has been a topic that has frustrated you. I can completely understand that it would be hard to ignore your fears. My post was not directed solely at you and you were by no means one of the people that frustrated me with their behavior twords other members. We have been involved in conversations before and I have no hesitation in saying I think you are a sweet person.

I didn’t at any point think my post would cause an epiphany to those it was directed at.


Love,
I was attacked by a Doberman as a child. My mother was attacked by this same Doberman. I am not afraid of Dobermans or large dogs but there are dogs that I am cautious around, not due to breed or size but based on the dogs temperament.
I am also cautious around people. While walking around in bad areas of Puerto Rico I defiantly looked over my shoulder a few times. Am I afraid of Puerto Ricans? Not at all, but I am cautious in areas I don’t know at night just as I am cautious around dogs I don’t know. Just as people, I don’t trust just any dog right off the bat but I’ll give them a shot. Lula now has more doggie friends than I could count. With each new dog she meets, she learns. There are certain things I can’t teach her. She looks to other dogs for that.

My best friend is a “personal protection” dog trainer. She works mostly with Alapaha Blue Blooded Bulldogs. They are very sweet cuddle bugs. Blue is her largest dog. If you are sitting on the floor Indian style he will back up and sit in your lap to be pet. He is very sweet. I love to walk him but while on our walks if a person asks to pet him I will say “I’m sorry, he is not very friendly”. It’s not because is isn’t very friendly it’s because he is not my dog, I do not know him as well as his owner and if something happened (god forbid) I don’t want to be the person on the other side of the leash. Do these dogs play well with mine? Yes! They love my little girl, In fact I think one of her dogs thinks mine is one of her puppies as she had a litter around the same time as my little girl was introduced.

I do something similar when walking my 3 pound Lula. Little sticky-fingered- children will run over and ask to pet “my puppy”. It sounds something like this; “OMG! CAN I PET YOUR PUPPY EEEEEK, ITS SO CUTE!!!!!!”. Sometimes I will say “I’m sorry, she bites”. She doesn’t bite, but sometimes I don’t want to deal with someone’s bratty kid.
There have been too many occasions where I have cringed while watching some brat man-handle my dog or reach down and pick her up… my 3 pound squirmy dog… over pavement… *sigh*. Sometimes I just want to have a nice peaceful walk with my little girl.
I will always stop for one of my neighbors kids, she is very gentle and sweet.
All kids are different.

I must admit that I am happy this woman knows her dog enough to tell you not come near with yours. The dog that lives across the street from us is not friendly so when Lula and I are on our walk, one of us will cross the street if of the same side. This doesn’t give me a general distrust for schnauzers, in fact Lula made friends with one yesterday at the dog spa.
Just as People, each dog is different.

I don’t worry about my neighbor’s dog getting loose. I worry more about mine getting lose… and getting lost.
I am not fearless, but I try to live life with open eyes, an open mind and an open heart.
Its OK to not trust a dog right away, just please don’t rule them out before you get to know them.

I totally, 100% agree with you! Cesar gets a huge :thumbup: from me anytime!
And I don't believe that all pit bulls are man eaters (or yorkie eaters for that matter). Cesar will be the first to admit, when a case is a lost cause. He doesn't claim to be able to fix all issues that may come up, but I would trust him with any of my dogs in a heartbeat. His pit bull "Daddy" is a sweet heart and I would not flinch, having him around my yorkies. Hail Cesar!

I am sorry if I made you fell that I was PERSONALLY attacking you. I was not. I have been thru this so many time. I was not able to get a Yorkie because of my Greyhounds. So when a blanket statement is made, I get so mad..

I just wish that in the beginning, if you had just said, " I can't agree with with him having pitts with a yorkie and his family, because in my family............ happened." Ya know what I mean? I have no problem with YOU having fears, it is those that have fears and then try to make everyone else have fears.

Merry Christmas!!!!! ;)

Merry Christmas to you too and your yorkie and greyhounds :D

Little known fact
 

the adorable dog 'Petey' on the old show the Little Rascals was a PitBull. I'm not real crazy about the breed. It does seem to be in the forefront of the news.. The bad news. My unscientific theory is that the very real scientific term 'predator drift' is for some reason triggered quicker in pitbulls then in other breeds, perhaps because so many of the ones being currently marketed and rescued are genetically linked to the recently bred fighters.

My largest dog is the sweetest 80lb rescue you'd ever want to meet. Using a lot of Cesar's and Victoria's methods he has been trained and is responsible and by nature submissive, not an alpha bone in his body. He is part lab, border collie, newf and god knows what else. Lets the other dogs crawl all over him. Anyway, on a camping trip while out in the backyard our friends mini dachsund was running and Bear was playfully giving chase when suddenly their dog made an odd movement in the brush and our other friend's fox terrier went after the mini and Bear in the blink of an eye changed. I caught it, no one else did. He became a predator. For a split second, the mini was prey. I screamed his name and was able to snap him out of it, but it scared me to death. He was going after that little dog with the intent to kill, like it was a rabbit or squirrel. That was when I came home and started to research and discovered 'predator drift'.

I have always from day one kept my yorkie girls penned up whenever we are not home or they are not supervised. Now I know why...LOL I would never want Bear or myself to live with the aftermath of a split second instinctual mistake that could have been prevented. Even when I nap, my DH takes Bear down to the basement with him to his 'workshop' rather than leave him unsupervised with the girls if I'm not watching, it's just the way it is.

I just think that, perhaps with some, not all pits, that 'drift' process is just closer to the surface. With a good owner it may never surface, with a bad owner, all bets are off.... JMHO