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eauxbehv · 10-19-2009, 06:09 PM

I have a 7 month old female Yorkie I can not house break. She doesn't have any problems holding herself all not, but during the day she pees/poops in the house, in her small kennel. I take her outside she comes back in to do her business. I have a new house and a 5 yr old male who is totally house broken. I have had dogs my whole life and have NEVER had this problem.

I told my husband to find her a home where someone is home all day. I HAVE HAD IT WITH HER. But I feel like bad mom.

Advice...

LuluMaye · 10-19-2009, 06:20 PM

i found that yorkies are really hard to train and that it is an ongoing process. I have three who are pee pad trained and outdoors also. and my male is strictly an outdoor trained. It took me 9 mos. with all to get them trained, but I still will find surprises every now and then with my two young females. Especially carpets! And yes, I am home all day. I believe alot of it is out of spite. I notice when they do have their accidents, it's when I go out for the day and when i get home I will let them out and as soon as I let them in one of them will go in the house.

CouversMom · 10-19-2009, 06:28 PM

Couver is a year old, and not 100% potty trained. If he is left at home alone for longer than 5 hours, he poops on the carpet.

At 7 months, your yorkie is still a baby... consistency is key. Don't give up on her now!

eauxbehv · 10-19-2009, 06:48 PM

Thanks for your posted. I am just frustrated. I have never had a dog that as not trained by 7 months.

joeyandtanksmom · 10-19-2009, 06:52 PM

My 16 month old Joey and 11 month old Tank still have the occasional accident, as hard as we try to be perfect. They are alone about 6 hours per day, during which they are locked in one of our bathrooms. They sometimes pee or poop in the bathroom, but I really can't expect them to hold it so long, so they don't get in trouble for that. I just have to mop the bathroom almost every night. when I was having lots of trouble getting them to stop pooping in the house (they don't pee unless they're locked in the bathroom - odd), I got a few comments on here that have really helped my husband and me to get the boys better potty trained.
I've been told that they could be getting so excited to be outside that they forget they have to go, then when it hits them that they do in fact need to go, they don't have time to let you know. If you take them out once for 15 to 20 mins, then again about 15 mins after you go inside, you can generally catch it. It took about 2 weeks of this with my boys until we drastically cut down on the pooping in the house. They now do it maybe once to three times per week, but we are continuing to work on it. I wish you and your little one the best of luck!

CouversMom · 10-19-2009, 06:53 PM

Yorkies are notorious for being difficult to housebreak

Did you look into the breed before purchasing yours?

joeyandtanksmom · 10-19-2009, 07:01 PM

That is true...probably should have mentioned that...I've read in many places that they are one of the hardest breeds to housetrain. Very good point, Couver's mom!

Nancy1999 · 10-19-2009, 07:08 PM

Dogs can hold it all night because urine production slows down at night, don't use the same schedule during the day as you would at night. Do you keep her in a kennel all day and expect her to hold it? This is not going to work. I really feel badly for the dog, because they hate too poop and pee in their kennel and have to be in dire need and pain before they will do it. Most people who leave for the day, put the dog in an x-pen with a pee pad, and allow them to relieve themselves when necessary. You can build up to 8 hours a day in a kennel, but that's not much of a life for a dog. It sounds like you need to figure out exactly what you want and how much time you want to invest in reading about training techniques. Basically you have taught her that the kennel is where she must relieve herself. To reteach her you will have to do several things such as cleaning the kennel thoroughly, with a special enzyme cleaner, making the kennel small enough so that there is only room enough to stand up turn around. The most important step is to take her out of the kennel every couple of hours and place her in the spot where you want her to poop and pee. Then she would be allowed free time, where you watch her closely, and then back in the kennel. This usually trains them in a week. It sounds like you are expecting too much if she is to wait all day. At this age she could probably hold it 4 hours, but she hasn't been trained to do that yet. I think this is a great site, and it has step by step methods. Free House Training for Puppies and Adult Dogs - No More Accidents Starting Today!

kionini · 10-19-2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by eauxbehv

I have a 7 month old female Yorkie I can not house break. She doesn't have any problems holding herself all not, but during the day she pees/poops in the house, in her small kennel. I take her outside she comes back in to do her business. I have a new house and a 5 yr old male who is totally house broken. I have had dogs my whole life and have NEVER had this problem.

I told my husband to find her a home where someone is home all day. I HAVE HAD IT WITH HER. But I feel like bad mom.

Advice...

Has something changed in your household? You mention a new house, could that be it? I had finally trained my girl and she was house broken for months. I was so happy and sure she would never do it in the house again. Through pouring rain, hot-mosquito filled days, snow storms and all in between she would wait and do it outside. I was so surprised that even as a baby she would hold it ALLLL night.

Well...I had a great idea one day, a brother for my little girl! Along came my baby boy Nicky. Nini (my girl), DID NOT think my idea was so great and she let me know it by pooping and peeing any where, all over inside the house and IN FRONT OF MY FACE! Yes, while I watched in disbelieve and in total shock.

It took me about 3-4? weeks of letting her know that a new brother does not mean she is not my princess any more. It took patience and retraining. I know how you feel, it's frustrating. I wanted to scream and would get so angry with her and myself. But, what helped me breath normally again was to realize what she means to me, that a carpet can be cleaned and most of all, that she was FEELING too. Feeling scared, confused, unloved?

Remember that they know when you're angry, but can't understand why. Instead of getting angry at Nini when she went in the house, I would not let it get the best of me, clean it up and forget it. Then, I would wait until she did it outside (not because she meant to, but because she happened to be outside when the urge came) and I would celebrate it by kissing, hugging and playing with her until she starting going outside exclusively again.

Is a work in progress (she can relapse) because she's still jealous of her brother, but it's getting better every day.

So, Pleeeease, pretty please, figure out what happened that made your baby so unsure of herself that she's seeking your attention in that way. And be patient

ladyjane · 10-19-2009, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Dogs can hold it all night because urine production slows down at night, don't use the same schedule during the day as you would at night. Do you keep her in a kennel all day and expect her to hold it? This is not going to work. I really feel badly for the dog, because they hate too poop and pee in their kennel and have to be in dire need and pain before they will do it. Most people who leave for the day, put the dog in an x-pen with a pee pad, and allow them to relieve themselves when necessary. You can build up to 8 hours a day in a kennel, but that's not much of a life for a dog. It sounds like you need to figure out exactly what you want and how much time you want to invest in reading about training techniques. Basically you have taught her that the kennel is where she must relieve herself. To reteach her you will have to do several things such as cleaning the kennel thoroughly, with a special enzyme cleaner, making the kennel small enough so that there is only room enough to stand up turn around. The most important step is to take her out of the kennel every couple of hours and place her in the spot where you want her to poop and pee. Then she would be allowed free time, where you watch her closely, and then back in the kennel. This usually trains them in a week. It sounds like you are expecting too much if she is to wait all day. At this age she could probably hold it 4 hours, but she hasn't been trained to do that yet. I think this is a great site, and it has step by step methods. Free House Training for Puppies and Adult Dogs - No More Accidents Starting Today!

I swear, Nancy, you find the BEST links! That one is great..thank you!

Lorraine · 10-19-2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Dogs can hold it all night because urine production slows down at night, don't use the same schedule during the day as you would at night. Do you keep her in a kennel all day and expect her to hold it? This is not going to work. I really feel badly for the dog, because they hate too poop and pee in their kennel and have to be in dire need and pain before they will do it. Most people who leave for the day, put the dog in an x-pen with a pee pad, and allow them to relieve themselves when necessary. You can build up to 8 hours a day in a kennel, but that's not much of a life for a dog. It sounds like you need to figure out exactly what you want and how much time you want to invest in reading about training techniques. Basically you have taught her that the kennel is where she must relieve herself. To reteach her you will have to do several things such as cleaning the kennel thoroughly, with a special enzyme cleaner, making the kennel small enough so that there is only room enough to stand up turn around. The most important step is to take her out of the kennel every couple of hours and place her in the spot where you want her to poop and pee. Then she would be allowed free time, where you watch her closely, and then back in the kennel. This usually trains them in a week. It sounds like you are expecting too much if she is to wait all day. At this age she could probably hold it 4 hours, but she hasn't been trained to do that yet. I think this is a great site, and it has step by step methods. Free House Training for Puppies and Adult Dogs - No More Accidents Starting Today!

Excellent advice.
I do not sell to people that work all day no one home longer than 5 or 6 hours. Different work shifts can work if everyone is on the same page.
I also think people have to realize these are small dogs, small bladders and bowels. GEtting them to hold it too long can do irreparable damage. Ever think of that? Try drinking a couple of cups of coffee and locking yourself out of the bathroom for 8 hours, see how you would fair.
I would much prefer Nancy's suggestion of an xpen with wee wee pads, bed, some water, food, toys.
Keep them in a crate all day while at work they get to look at four walls of a tiny crate. Heck of a way to spend a day after sleeping in the crate all night.

ladyjane · 10-19-2009, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorraine

Excellent advice.
I do not sell to people that work all day no one home longer than 5 or 6 hours. Different work shifts can work if everyone is on the same page.
I also think people have to realize these are small dogs, small bladders and bowels. GEtting them to hold it too long can do irreparable damage. Ever think of that? Try drinking a couple of cups of coffee and locking yourself out of the bathroom for 8 hours, see how you would fair.
I would much prefer Nancy's suggestion of an xpen with wee wee pads, bed, some water, food, toys.
Keep them in a crate all day while at work they get to look at four walls of a tiny crate. Heck of a way to spend a day after sleeping in the crate all night.

eauxbehv · 10-19-2009, 08:06 PM

CouverMom - I have had 4 Yorkies in my life I know the breed very well.

She is alone about 4 hours then is let out and out again within about 3 hours. She is the only dog I had tried keep puppy pad trained and outside trained because at times it would be easy for her to use the pad because we RV, but I think it has confused her.

We did move recently and I know she could be confused, but you would think she would take clues from my other male Yorkie who goes on command.

I don't know the answer....I hate being so frustrated with her.

Lilyshuman · 10-19-2009, 08:21 PM

Thanks for the link Nancy!

I feel your frustration... When you let her outside after you get home maybe you just need to go out with her? Just stand there and don't say anything then when she pee's give tones of praise. Remember you only have to stand there about 4 seconds longer than she can hold it

Also buy yourself a great cleaner, I find I'm less frustrated when I know that my house is clean... so if I know that after puppy has pee'd and it's clean clean I can move on. (we doggie sit and have lot's of dogs/puppies that are stressed, or even sometimes not trained)

Yes Yorkies do have a reputation of being difficult to house train BUT... they have tiny pee's and poops

loveshay · 10-19-2009, 08:37 PM

I was just going to post, about Shay (7months also) falling off the wagon, so to speak..lol..we were sailing along, using the peepads, doing awesome, then......ugggggh! feel like we are back to day one, he actually, walked by the liter box, with fresh pee pad in it and continued to look at me and pee in front of the fridgerator, this afternoon...

I work from home, so no problem there, we have a nice large kennel in kitchen, with an exercise pen, that when I am here all day I just put accross door way in kitchen, when I go out, I move the pen and make his lil area, so he is safe....in evenings we bring him in the living room with us and have our play time and some more cuddle time (we get in alot of cuddle time during the day too)..lol..well last night when I feel he may have to go, I took him back to kitchen (open floor plan so he is where I can see him practically anywhere)..he walked into his kennel and proceded to look at me and pee all over his pillow...

I think he is trying to making a point, just not sure what it is...maybe to much attention? not enough? (not sure how that could be, since I am here talking and cuddling during the day)

Okay I am winded, and your thinking STOP already..lol..but HELP!

10-19-2009, 06:09 PM	#1
eauxbehv Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sacramento Posts: 173	Can not take it anymore unable to house break I have a 7 month old female Yorkie I can not house break. She doesn't have any problems holding herself all not, but during the day she pees/poops in the house, in her small kennel. I take her outside she comes back in to do her business. I have a new house and a 5 yr old male who is totally house broken. I have had dogs my whole life and have NEVER had this problem. I told my husband to find her a home where someone is home all day. I HAVE HAD IT WITH HER. But I feel like bad mom. Advice... __________________ Mommie to Sebastian Cindi Lu Lu RIP my Lil' Sweet Pea Feb 27, '05-Apr 13, '09

10-19-2009, 06:20 PM	#2
LuluMaye Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 203	i found that yorkies are really hard to train and that it is an ongoing process. I have three who are pee pad trained and outdoors also. and my male is strictly an outdoor trained. It took me 9 mos. with all to get them trained, but I still will find surprises every now and then with my two young females. Especially carpets! And yes, I am home all day. I believe alot of it is out of spite. I notice when they do have their accidents, it's when I go out for the day and when i get home I will let them out and as soon as I let them in one of them will go in the house. __________________ Lulu Belle, Bosley Beamer, Baby Zoey, & Holly Berry's Mommy

10-19-2009, 06:28 PM	#3
CouversMom and Khloe Mae's too! Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Eastern Washington Posts: 14,732	Couver is a year old, and not 100% potty trained. If he is left at home alone for longer than 5 hours, he poops on the carpet. At 7 months, your yorkie is still a baby... consistency is key. Don't give up on her now! __________________ Michelle- mommy to Couver and Khloe Mae! http://yorkiehavenrescue.com/

10-19-2009, 06:48 PM	#4
eauxbehv Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sacramento Posts: 173	Thanks for your posted. I am just frustrated. I have never had a dog that as not trained by 7 months. __________________ Mommie to Sebastian Cindi Lu Lu RIP my Lil' Sweet Pea Feb 27, '05-Apr 13, '09

10-19-2009, 06:52 PM	#5
joeyandtanksmom YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Kuna,ID,USA Posts: 557	My 16 month old Joey and 11 month old Tank still have the occasional accident, as hard as we try to be perfect. They are alone about 6 hours per day, during which they are locked in one of our bathrooms. They sometimes pee or poop in the bathroom, but I really can't expect them to hold it so long, so they don't get in trouble for that. I just have to mop the bathroom almost every night. when I was having lots of trouble getting them to stop pooping in the house (they don't pee unless they're locked in the bathroom - odd), I got a few comments on here that have really helped my husband and me to get the boys better potty trained. I've been told that they could be getting so excited to be outside that they forget they have to go, then when it hits them that they do in fact need to go, they don't have time to let you know. If you take them out once for 15 to 20 mins, then again about 15 mins after you go inside, you can generally catch it. It took about 2 weeks of this with my boys until we drastically cut down on the pooping in the house. They now do it maybe once to three times per week, but we are continuing to work on it. I wish you and your little one the best of luck! __________________ Sandy: Joey & Tank's Mom Jackson Ryan

10-19-2009, 06:53 PM	#6
CouversMom and Khloe Mae's too! Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Eastern Washington Posts: 14,732	Yorkies are notorious for being difficult to housebreak Did you look into the breed before purchasing yours? __________________ Michelle- mommy to Couver and Khloe Mae! http://yorkiehavenrescue.com/

10-19-2009, 07:01 PM	#7
joeyandtanksmom YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Kuna,ID,USA Posts: 557	That is true...probably should have mentioned that...I've read in many places that they are one of the hardest breeds to housetrain. Very good point, Couver's mom! __________________ Sandy: Joey & Tank's Mom Jackson Ryan Last edited by joeyandtanksmom; 10-19-2009 at 07:02 PM. Reason: misspelling

10-19-2009, 07:08 PM	#8
Nancy1999 I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 25,396 Blog Entries: 2	Dogs can hold it all night because urine production slows down at night, don't use the same schedule during the day as you would at night. Do you keep her in a kennel all day and expect her to hold it? This is not going to work. I really feel badly for the dog, because they hate too poop and pee in their kennel and have to be in dire need and pain before they will do it. Most people who leave for the day, put the dog in an x-pen with a pee pad, and allow them to relieve themselves when necessary. You can build up to 8 hours a day in a kennel, but that's not much of a life for a dog. It sounds like you need to figure out exactly what you want and how much time you want to invest in reading about training techniques. Basically you have taught her that the kennel is where she must relieve herself. To reteach her you will have to do several things such as cleaning the kennel thoroughly, with a special enzyme cleaner, making the kennel small enough so that there is only room enough to stand up turn around. The most important step is to take her out of the kennel every couple of hours and place her in the spot where you want her to poop and pee. Then she would be allowed free time, where you watch her closely, and then back in the kennel. This usually trains them in a week. It sounds like you are expecting too much if she is to wait all day. At this age she could probably hold it 4 hours, but she hasn't been trained to do that yet. I think this is a great site, and it has step by step methods. Free House Training for Puppies and Adult Dogs - No More Accidents Starting Today! __________________ NancyJoey Proud members of the CrAzYcLuB and YAP! ** Just Say No to Puppymills – Join YAP! Yorkshire Terrier Club of America – Breeder Referrals

10-19-2009, 08:06 PM	#13
eauxbehv Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sacramento Posts: 173	CouverMom - I have had 4 Yorkies in my life I know the breed very well. She is alone about 4 hours then is let out and out again within about 3 hours. She is the only dog I had tried keep puppy pad trained and outside trained because at times it would be easy for her to use the pad because we RV, but I think it has confused her. We did move recently and I know she could be confused, but you would think she would take clues from my other male Yorkie who goes on command. I don't know the answer....I hate being so frustrated with her. __________________ Mommie to Sebastian Cindi Lu Lu RIP my Lil' Sweet Pea Feb 27, '05-Apr 13, '09

10-19-2009, 08:21 PM	#14
Lilyshuman Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Calgary Posts: 520	Thanks for the link Nancy! I feel your frustration... When you let her outside after you get home maybe you just need to go out with her? Just stand there and don't say anything then when she pee's give tones of praise. Remember you only have to stand there about 4 seconds longer than she can hold it Also buy yourself a great cleaner, I find I'm less frustrated when I know that my house is clean... so if I know that after puppy has pee'd and it's clean clean I can move on. (we doggie sit and have lot's of dogs/puppies that are stressed, or even sometimes not trained) Yes Yorkies do have a reputation of being difficult to house train BUT... they have tiny pee's and poops __________________ Nicole:

10-19-2009, 08:37 PM	#15
loveshay YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: TN Posts: 556	I was just going to post, about Shay (7months also) falling off the wagon, so to speak..lol..we were sailing along, using the peepads, doing awesome, then......ugggggh! feel like we are back to day one, he actually, walked by the liter box, with fresh pee pad in it and continued to look at me and pee in front of the fridgerator, this afternoon... I work from home, so no problem there, we have a nice large kennel in kitchen, with an exercise pen, that when I am here all day I just put accross door way in kitchen, when I go out, I move the pen and make his lil area, so he is safe....in evenings we bring him in the living room with us and have our play time and some more cuddle time (we get in alot of cuddle time during the day too)..lol..well last night when I feel he may have to go, I took him back to kitchen (open floor plan so he is where I can see him practically anywhere)..he walked into his kennel and proceded to look at me and pee all over his pillow... I think he is trying to making a point, just not sure what it is...maybe to much attention? not enough? (not sure how that could be, since I am here talking and cuddling during the day) Okay I am winded, and your thinking STOP already..lol..but HELP!