Is my guy too big?

[RachelandSadie]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

You are so correct. I stuck it out because I'm a little tougher than most. but also because I received many many PMs giving me the answers that I was looking for, by some long time members.

Yes the OP did get quite defensive and clearly she is not going to listen to anyone anyway.

But seriously, livingdustmop and megansmomma the information that I posted might not have fit into your profile of excuses that people give for surrendering dogs, but I am sure there are yorkies surrendered for just that reason, it is just not one of the popular "excuses" that people give.

Reasons and excuses are two different things.

I used to own rental property, and the "Excuses" that I was given for not having paid the rent, were not always the "resasons"

Yes they are, and i can see what you mean with this statement. There is a possibility that people might drop off a dog at a shelter for a reason that they aren't willing to admit and give some excuse about it instead. I think you are correct here that they "might" not want the dog because it outgrew a size expectation, but like others have said as well, that is not the main reason or the only reason. good post though about the difference between a reason and excuse!!

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

Excuse me but I am not a cockroach that came out of the woodwork. I WISH you had access to PMs so that you could see I have not spoken to Megansmomma at all about this subject. I have seen you say this before....just the other day you accused everyone of coming to the rescue of Nancy1999

You said you are getting paranoid in some post....I believe that may just be the case.

Is it so hard for you to comprehend that there are many people reading this forum and coming across such erroneous information that must be corrected?

And again.........your comment was a blunder indeed!!! You should, along with all of us, be trying to help these homeless yorkies find good homes. Telling people that many are large is just not good advertisement....it is said in a negative light and that is uncalled for!

Now that is too funny.

I'm not the one who used the term "coming out of the woodwork", I was making reference to the term that someone else used, hence the "---"

Did I say that anyone PM'd anyone?

Yes I obviously made a "huge blunder"......

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

I used to own rental property, and the "Excuses" that I was given for not having paid the rent, were not always the "resasons"

You simply will not accept how wrong you are. I know all about excuses. The most famous excuse I hear from people surrendering their yorkies is that their boyfriend or husband will not allow the pup to stay. Or...we are moving to a place that does not allow pets.

The real reason for surrenders: I said it in a previous post: Irresponsible pet owners.

I can tell you, though, that although you keep insisting you are right as usual, you are not. One of the MAIN reasons for surrenders of yorkies is NOT SIZE. No one has said that it does NOT happen....we are saying that would be rare! I have met MANY yorkie owners who would bristle at your remarks because quite frankly they border on a bit of arrogance and do insinuate that larger yorkies are substandard. The whole world is NOT showing yorkies...they are looking for PETS! Sadly, many people get yorkies because they are popular and they do not take the time to research them. They do not realize these are not toys because advertisement makes them look as such. Anyone who is obsessed with size just might not be the best pet owner....not always true...but when I see people focus only on that, it is a concern. They need to research the breed. I try my level best to educate people about the issues that yorkies have that many people cannot tolerate because I do not want them to be cast aside. Size is NOT something I warn them about. Housebreaking is the very first thing I tell people...it is a main concern for many. Also....the fact that yorkies are high maintenance...people get them and end up not being able to afford to properly care for them. Those are two that jump up at the top of the list. Not SIZE!

But, I can see, you never, ever leave without having the last word no matter what. I hope your people who are nice enough to PM you can convince you otherwise on the issue of surrenders because you really are doing a disservice to yorkies in need.

[Bizzymammabee]

Why don't you guys just let this go. The going around and around is just a waste of time. Each person learned a lesson here as some small mistaken information and facts were clarified. Lesson learned and we are all the more wiser for it. Your just aggravating yourselves by keeping this whole banter going.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by RachelandSadie

Yes they are, and i can see what you mean with this statement. There is a possibility that people might drop off a dog at a shelter for a reason that they aren't willing to admit and give some excuse about it instead. I think you are correct here that they "might" not want the dog because it outgrew a size expectation, but like others have said as well, that is not the main reason or the only reason. good post though about the difference between a reason and excuse!!

And I do not recall saying it was the main reason or the only reason, and obviously it is not an excuse that is frequently given.

But I bleieve that even large breed dogs are given up because they got too big. People just do not stop to think about how big this cute little puppy is going to get and how it is going to tip over coffee tables and break things. or eat the sofa or frighten the baby or knock grandma over.

None of those things were on the list of excuses either.




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[Bianca]

Originally Posted by Bizzymammabee

Why don't you guys just let this go. The going around and around is just a waste of time. Each person learned a lesson here as some small mistaken information and facts were clarified. Lesson learned and we are all the more wiser for it. Your just aggravating yourselves by keeping this whole banter going.

OHhhh you are such a wise person... Great advice ...

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

But when Bamafan and ladyjane come "out of the woodwork" to give you a pat on the back for correcting someone

What!? Who's "coming out of the woodwork" to pat someone on the back? I didn't post to "side with" or take up for anyone--I would prefer to be left out of whatever personal agendas you or anyone else may have with other members, if you don't mind.
My post that I believe you are referring to simply stated that:
Yes, you made a mistatement.
Yes, it was corrected.
It was a simple matter, so what was the big deal about it?

No disrespect intended, but if you feel like you are being "ganged up on", then I think that is very unfortunate, but please don't lump me into the category of "coming out of the woodwork." I speak for myself alone and assume that everyone else here possesses the mental capacity to do the same without my help. If people have similar opinions, that does not mean that there is a conspiracy to 'join forces' against someone based on some concocted personal agenda. It's like a John Grisham book gone bad!

Geez...talk about things being blown out of proportion! This whole thing is a bit ridiculous if you ask me.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Bizzymammabee

Why don't you guys just let this go. The going around and around is just a waste of time. Each person learned a lesson here as some small mistaken information and facts were clarified. Lesson learned and we are all the more wiser for it. Your just aggravating yourselves by keeping this whole banter going.

Educating the public about rescue is never a waste of my time. That is how I view this.

I am not at all upset except for the fact that I feel that the value of rescue pups is being minimized here.

I am getting off of here now because I have a little yorkie with a messed up leg who has an appt with a specialist. He was hit by a car in April, had a pin put in his leg...pin was removed and he was jumping off of furniture right after that and refractured it. His owner said she could not afford to fix it. So...after all of this time, they surrendered him to us....in pain with a leg that is dangling...his femur is broken in half and the bone ends are rubbing together. HE and others like him are the reason I am so passionate. They do not have voices.

I am disturbed by some peoples' remarks that insinuate that rescued yorkies are substandard. It is not said in so many words, but certainly rings through in words.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

What!? ?

If people have similar opinions, that does not mean that there is a conspiracy to 'join forces' against someone based on some concocted personal agenda. It's like a John Grisham book gone bad!

And, I am not back patting....merely agreeing.

[Bizzymammabee]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

Educating the public about rescue is never a waste of my time. That is how I view this.

I am not at all upset except for the fact that I feel that the value of rescue pups is being minimized here.

I am getting off of here now because I have a little yorkie with a messed up leg who has an appt with a specialist. He was hit by a car in April, had a pin put in his leg...pin was removed and he was jumping off of furniture right after that and refractured it. His owner said she could not afford to fix it. So...after all of this time, they surrendered him to us....in pain with a leg that is dangling...his femur is broken in half and the bone ends are rubbing together. HE and others like him are the reason I am so passionate. They do not have voices.

I am disturbed by some peoples' remarks that insinuate that rescued yorkies are substandard. It is not said in so many words, but certainly rings through in words.

I understand your frustration. I and I doubt that anyone on YT feels that rescued pups are substandard. I just feel at this point people's feelings are hurt and some backs are up. So by continuing the conversation the information is falling upon deaf ears because someone might be feeling defensive or misunderstood. I think some misconceptions came to light and people in the know were able to clarify it and eventually when people calm down the information will be processed. Right now this conversation is circling because people are feeling defensive. So the truth/information is falling by the wayside because people are more interested in defending themselves or the information they shared.

[BamaFan121s]

Eh...I was never really a fan of John Grisham myself.

[Bizzymammabee]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Eh...I was never really a fan of John Grisham myself.

Your crazy girl

[livingdustmops]

Since you felt the need to bring me back into this thread after I stopped posting I am going to ask you again,...what rescue have you been involved with????or what shelter? Where are you getting your information from?

I do agree with LadyJane ..you hurt rescue's that are trying to find homes for these dogs....Dogs that were sold by a breeder who made $$$ but could care less what happens to the dogs once they leave their home. This is the problem...poor breeders that just want to make $$$. As far as I am concerned a reputable breeder will take their dogs back for their lifetime..period. I also think breeders should be paying for all the rescue's and shelters costs.

I will never forget your hammer thread and you couldn't let that go either...you just kept posting time and time again..upsetting many people. I also remember the top breeders (IMHO) telling you they would never do what you were asking about. I had many nights I could not sleep because of that thread.

[CouversMom]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

There was no fighting going on.

This makes me laugh... really??

[CouversMom]

Originally Posted by Bizzymammabee

Why don't you guys just let this go. The going around and around is just a waste of time. Each person learned a lesson here as some small mistaken information and facts were clarified. Lesson learned and we are all the more wiser for it. Your just aggravating yourselves by keeping this whole banter going.

Thank you!!