Originally Posted by rachel717 (Post 2835617)

I would like to stud my guy 1 time for pick of the litter. We have hosted a beautiful female for the past 3 days who is full into her cycle. They play well together, he is courting her properly and she is very receptive, until he moves into position. She is ready but as soon as he tries to get on she pulls out from under him. Her owner thinks it is because he is too big. They are the same physical size but she weighs 6 pounds and he weighs 12. He is not "fat" he is solid. If you looked at him you would never guess he is that heavy. Is he too big for her??

Originally Posted by simbasmom (Post 2837185)

I am rather new to Yorkie Talk and I can't even begin to tell you how much I have learned from these forums. However, as a newbie I would like to say that some of the responses on this thread are very harsh. I agree that the original poster does not sound very informed about breeding and probably needs to learn a lot more about it she if she decides to start breeding. However, I think most people would respond better to advice if it was given in a nicer way. I'm not trying to start an argument and I'm not saying that EVERYONE who posted was mean, rude, etc...There were several people who were very friendly. However I don't think posts calling someone "dumb" or telling them to go ahead and breed and let the dog die or necessary or even helpful.

I realize that most of the people on this board are very protective and there's nothing wrong with that. I promise you that I would cause serious injury to anyone who tried to harm my Yorkies. I just think that sometimes before we post it's better to take a minute and think out what we want to say.

Originally Posted by rachel717 (Post 2835868)

WOW! you guys really jump on someone when you do not know all the facts. 1- yes we had both dogs checked, both are dual registered and mine has a 4 generation pedigree including 3 AKC members in his line. 2- the area we live in does not have any good breeders, I traveled 6 hours to a registered breeder for my dog and the female is from a breeder in Germany 3- we are not breeding just to breed she runs a kennel and is trying to start a yorkie line in this area since there are none 4- I posted my question out of concern for both animals, if I wasn't concerned I would have held the female down and forced the breeding 5- I know that he is larger than the standard but he is exceptionally healthy other than his weight he meets every standard for AKC and he has a wonderful personality especially with kids. I would rather have a healthy happy dog who is part of a family than a "perfect" dogs who is unhealthy, unhappy and lives in a kennel because it doesn't respond well to people. I expected responses like yes he is probably too big or something similar- I was not prepared to be chastized and lectured for trying to do the right thing.

Originally Posted by Amazing Yorkies (Post 2836868)

I'm hoping you don't take this as chastizing or lecturing, but you hit a nerve when I saw where you were from. You didn't look too hard for good breeders in your area. I can't believe you drove 6 hours away when you're just 50 miles from Kansas City and some great YTCA Show Breeders, and I live 60 miles from you and there are 3 Show Breeders, including myself within that 60 miles, and 2 Breeders that I know with healthy, beautiful puppies right in your city. They don't Show, but are breeding to Standard.
Now, if you're like some of the calls I get, looking for full registration for $400.00, just in case you may want to have puppies for your relatives, or have your kids experience birth.. you may have to drive 6 hours for that.
The obvious problem of breeding your male to her female and the size difference aside... What birth weight background does your male have??? I would be concerned about what birthweight a bigger male might throw that would be very dangerous for the female.
It scares me that your friend wants to start a kennel for Yorkies, so that there are "good" Yorkies in your area, when she's starting out with a 12 lb male for stud. We should only use the best for our breeding, not just put a male and female together for puppies.. that's not becoming a good breeder, just adding to Missouri's problem.

Originally Posted by jacksonsmum (Post 2837032)

I am not a breeder and dont intend to breed ever. Just thinking about it scares me to death:)I have been reading this thread and it is fascinating about how and why and why not etc etc.

Just a question regarding the dog who is 12 pounds

Could it be that he is the right "frame" as far as physical size go's in regards to height and length etc but is over weight by six pounds.? Would that make a difference to how big the pups are? Would it mean that the pups would be bigger if he is maybe over weight ?

Just a question and was curious.:)

Originally Posted by simbasmom (Post 2837185)

I am rather new to Yorkie Talk and I can't even begin to tell you how much I have learned from these forums. However, as a newbie I would like to say that some of the responses on this thread are very harsh. I agree that the original poster does not sound very informed about breeding and probably needs to learn a lot more about it she if she decides to start breeding. However, I think most people would respond better to advice if it was given in a nicer way. I'm not trying to start an argument and I'm not saying that EVERYONE who posted was mean, rude, etc...There were several people who were very friendly. However I don't think posts calling someone "dumb" or telling them to go ahead and breed and let the dog die or necessary or even helpful.

I realize that most of the people on this board are very protective and there's nothing wrong with that. I promise you that I would cause serious injury to anyone who tried to harm my Yorkies. I just think that sometimes before we post it's better to take a minute and think out what we want to say.

Originally Posted by mandy4 (Post 2837702)

I agree with you!

IM not on here much and I dont know anything about breeding any dog, but I do want to say, there are a lot of people that swear by their breeding standards and still get large yorkies. :eek:

That's all I am going to say, otherwise I will get lectured.....

Originally Posted by GAOMariposa (Post 2837872)

Hi. I'm not a breeder and I've just learned a lot from this site and I'm not trying to lecture you. From what I understand, it is possible for people to get a puppy that's over the standard, even with 2 standard sized parents. The difference is that the parents of the puppy are usually a larger female with a smaller male. This is what I understand and again, I'm not a breeder, just someone who's picked up a lot of information from YT. Maybe some of the breeders can elaborate?