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Cornubia Fal 04-10-2010 01:55 PM
No more tail docking please
 
In England we seldom dock Yorkies' tails and my Yorkie Jenny has her own very beautiful full tail. It is as absurd and unpleasant to dock tails for misguided cosmetic reasons as it once was to crop their ears, and I urge all your members to call for tail docking to be stopped.

If you wonder what a full Yorkie tail looks like you can see Jenny on YouTube in several videos, particularly "Jenny and the biscuit 3" . I keep her coat medium short and her tail hair is about 4". Her tail has a most attractive curve and is much admired.

Breeze 04-10-2010 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Cornubia Fal (Post 3078940)
In England we seldom dock Yorkies' tails and my Yorkie Jenny has her own very beautiful full tail. It is as absurd and unpleasant to dock tails for misguided cosmetic reasons as it once was to crop their ears, and I urge all your members to call for tail docking to be stopped.

If you wonder what a full Yorkie tail looks like you can see Jenny on YouTube in several videos, particularly "Jenny and the biscuit 3" . I keep her coat medium short and her tail hair is about 4". Her tail has a most attractive curve and is much admired.
Welcome to Yorkie Talk! :wavey:

Mardelin 04-10-2010 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Cornubia Fal (Post 3078940)
In England we seldom dock Yorkies' tails and my Yorkie Jenny has her own very beautiful full tail. It is as absurd and unpleasant to dock tails for misguided cosmetic reasons as it once was to crop their ears, and I urge all your members to call for tail docking to be stopped.

If you wonder what a full Yorkie tail looks like you can see Jenny on YouTube in several videos, particularly "Jenny and the biscuit 3" . I keep her coat medium short and her tail hair is about 4". Her tail has a most attractive curve and is much admired.
That standard in the UK and Europe is for an undocked tail.

However, in the US it still calls for Tail Docked to medium length and carried slightly higher than the level of the back.

I as most exhibitors in the US prefer the docked tail. And we will set our standard and not have others countries dicate to us what it should be.

Mardelin 04-10-2010 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Cornubia Fal (Post 3078940)
In England we seldom dock Yorkies' tails and my Yorkie Jenny has her own very beautiful full tail. It is as absurd and unpleasant to dock tails for misguided cosmetic reasons as it once was to crop their ears, and I urge all your members to call for tail docking to be stopped.

If you wonder what a full Yorkie tail looks like you can see Jenny on YouTube in several videos, particularly "Jenny and the biscuit 3" . I keep her coat medium short and her tail hair is about 4". Her tail has a most attractive curve and is much admired.
By the way welcome.

Lorrainelola 04-10-2010 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jemma (Post 2831434)
If they are born with a tail, it means they should have that tail. Simple thought!
My view entirely. Alfie has a tail and its lovely to see it waving about as he runs.

Lorrainelola 04-10-2010 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2827864)
One must remember every breed when developed and admitted into the AKC as a recognized breed has a specified function. Lab and Retrievers a different function than a yorkie. The yorkie's function was a ratter and varmint hunter. When they were recognized and confirmed as a breed onto itself, docking tails served a purpose. When they began being shown, those powers that be felt the docked tail to medium length added to the overall look and balance of the dog. Myself I prefer it docked. I've seen the European dogs with undocked tails and most of the time their tails aren't held high, but somewhat tucked making the dog appear to have a low tail set. The dogs in England are shown on boxes, they aren't moved in the ring, but still appear to look unbalanced. Watching a dog in the US move around the ring with that tail upright does contribute to the proud look of confidence in a yorkie.
Crufts is the top dog show in the UK and the dogs don't just stand on boxes. They DO move around the ring.

Mardelin 04-10-2010 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Lorrainelola (Post 3079061)
My view entirely. Alfie has a tail and its lovely to see it waving about as he runs.
Again, you are in England, your standard has been changed for docked tails.

I don't know if you exhibit, I do, so when and if the US Standard changes, those of us that exhibit will continue to dock tails....

You're happy with your standard and your dogs. We are here are happy with ours.

Lorrainelola 04-10-2010 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3079077)
Again, you are in England, your standard has been changed for docked tails.

I don't know if you exhibit, I do, so when and if the US Standard changes, those of us that exhibit will continue to dock tails....

You're happy with your standard and your dogs. We are here are happy with ours.
But thats the point being made by the OP not all Americans are happy. Obviously its every one's own choice and I am not knocking you I am just making my own opinion. If you want to show a Yorkie then you have to have the tail docked and I understand that.

Mardelin 04-10-2010 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Lorrainelola (Post 3079086)
But thats the point being made by the OP not all Americans are happy. Obviously its every one's own choice and I am not knocking you I am just making my own opinion. If you want to show a Yorkie then you have to have the tail docked and I understand that.
I respect your opinion and your choice. But the newbie poster is attempting to impose UKs practices onto the US. And you are right everyone is entitled to their preferance. But, one should not make an assumption that all Americans are unhappy with this practice, it is a minority.

I reiterate, you have your standard, we have ours. And would prefer to make our on decision/choice on whether the standard needs to be changed. Pet people still have the option and choice of not having the pet dogs tails docked.

Britster 04-10-2010 11:35 PM
I don't know about the minority. Alot of Americans think tail docking is useless. I go to the dog park 1-3x a week and talk to dozens of people every week. 90% of the folks I talk to make a comment on Jackson's tail and how nice it is to see a full tail. Now, I don't think they're all just being nice or anything, they say it for a reason. Every person I know and/or met with a Yorkie wishes their Yorkie had a tail. And I'm talking to all different kinds of people, it's not only yorkie owners, or just other dog breed owners, or just age groups. I've had this convo multiple times with people aging from 23-60-something.

I'm not in any way saying Yorkies with docked tails aren't adorable. Of course it's cute to see their little nub wag.... but of course everyone has a preference. But most general public people don't know much about standard or care about it, sad as it is. But most just want a good pet and I think it's wonderful to see a full all natural tail waggin' on a dog! Just my opinion. I think America should follow England's lead on this one.

DerbyLayne 04-11-2010 07:33 AM
The only thing I have to say is:

I think Derby's tail was docked too short, and it's a damn shame. It reminds of a the tiny Rottie tails. A nub.

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However, in the US it still calls for Tail Docked to medium length and carried slightly higher than the level of the back.

teacup0819 04-11-2010 07:36 AM
I was very happy that the breeder we got Trixie from decided not to dock her tail and follow the european custom. It is so nice to see her wagging that big beautiful tail! Biscuit had his tail docked way to short so you could barely see it move....I always felt bad that he had to endure pain for no reason.

I personally love the tail on my yorkie, but I understand others wanting to adhere to breed standard. Trixie is our pet, not a show dog, so her tail is perfect! :animal-pa

Jemma 04-11-2010 10:14 AM
I believe that some day perhaps the AKC will stop with this tail cutting, since there isn't logic in it anyway.

Mardelin 04-11-2010 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Jemma (Post 3080207)
I believe that some day perhaps the AKC will stop with this tail cutting, since there isn't logic in it anyway.
It would have to be by government mandate, as the AKC does not call the shots and are not the keeper of the standards, the Breed Clubs are.

DerbyLayne 04-11-2010 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2827889)
Yorkies tails when correctly docked should not be a little nub.
Thank You!!

I wish Derby's was not just a nub.


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