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So she does have skinkids. I wonder what corners she's cutting to raise them???

Think of the pain that dog went through when the puppy was pulled out! How does she if she did damage to the dog's insides?

When you buy an animal it is a companion. Not a money making machine.

I breed Sphyx but responsibly. I sure don't cage them. Don't believe in it. I only have one male and one female and lucky to breed every 2 years because I want someone to want the kittens first.

I can tell you that there is no profit in breeding animals.

I agree that this story is sad but I don't think it is because this girl is a horrible person. I think she is an uneducated person that doesn't know any better because there hasn't been someone there to guide her and teach her. Remember, there are still a few people out there that don't know about Yorkie Talk and the wise members and information that exist here.

I think the OP is a great friend that is looking for a way to help educate her friend... not steal her dogs or get her into trouble. No matter how you slice it, it comes down to pure ignorance.

There is nothing wrong with them giving the shots or docking the tails... many breeders do this and as long as it is being done sanitary and the correct way then so be it.

Maybe instead of concentrating on how horrible this gal is, maybe we can come up with clever ways to help the OP to educate her friend. It is a sickening situation, but one that won't end unless we ban together to spread the word and educate these people... right?

I'm sick about this, she has a dog, she wants to breed her dog... Ok... And I'm sorry about this...... You are a selfish cold person,i do not have sympathy for you at all, to the op, you have a dog a yorkie , is like having a child but worst, they never gonna learn how to speak..ok I don't care if everyone is gonna hate me and maybe get myself banned but to the op, pls do something.....we have to respect life.....it's breaking my heart I live in nj but I will take the pups to find them a good home.........this is sad

I stated in the post you quoted that I have seen animal cops investigate these matters and determine if the animals were neglected by the state laws. If they determine the breeder neglected the animals, then they will do whatever they have to protect the animals according to the state laws. I am concern about the animals welfare. I want the best outcomes for these animals. This breeder's actions might seem cold (irresponsible breeder), but there is a possibility that she is ignorant about how to breed dogs properly. When I watch animal cops dealing with this matter, they explain to the breeder how to take care of the animals according to the state laws. If the breeder chooses not to follow the law, they take the animals away. I am hoping the breeder will decide to do what is best for these animal. Jasminir, as long as you follow Yorkie Talk rules, then you will not get ban. I am not going to hate you for having a different opinion than mines. :)

I agree.
The op came here in hope in finding help on what she needs to do. not everyone asking her how can she be friends with someone like this.
Lets all try and help her by helping her to educate her friend in hopes that it helps this poor mommy dog and her babies.

I to feel bad and almost sick at reading about the one stuck and them just pulling it out the next day.how painful that must of been for her. and about the momma dog and babies being left out side.

to the OP I hope you have called someone and reported her by now and I hope that mommy dog and pups get the help and care that they need. and thank you for making a post about it and trying to find help and advice on what to do.

Hi, Any updates on contacting any resourceful groups that can help with your friend.

Yep.. it is easy for us to try to visualize her just grabbing the dead pup, but I'm sure she was "gentle" about it.. the OP has known this girl for 8 years and says she is a good friend. I know several people like this. The ones that are always trying to make a buck and doing the latest get rich quick schemes. There are plenty of dangers to having puppies outside, however, it is summer time so its not like they are going to freeze to death. Animals have been giving birth and having pups outside for 1000's of years. We look at our Yorkies not being able to imagine leaving them outdoors so it is hard to fathom someone else doing it. Being outside is not neglect. As long as they have the proper shading (under porch), food and water. The humane society is going to probably say the same thing. Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with it, it breaks my heart and I can't imagine doing this to my own girl and her babies but it does happen and will continue to happen until we stop concentrating on the person's character and deal with the issue at hand. Which is education.

I think your friend is an IDIOT not a BYB.

:eek: Self explanatory!:eek: Disgusting!

Two excellent posts!:thumbup:

Soooo Sad!!!!:(

Good post to get this seen from another angle. I agree with most...but still have concerns. At first I was just sick about the situation and could add nothing. I too, felt like there would be NO way I could be friends with someone like this. On one hand I see your point about her possibly being uneducated and not knowing any better. But the OP did try to get her to get xrays for her dog so she could know how many to expect and her friend said no because she was not wanting to spend any money. That makes me think educating her is not going to be enough. But you are right, it should still be attempted.

Unfortunately the way the laws are, you're probably going to get NO help from authorities. I doubt, even though cruel and resulting in death, her actions would be seen as breaking the law. That is sad too! You won't find a majority in the country that even understands being there for the birth. Most remember big, country dogs that went off and had their pups in a secluded spot and you found them after all was said and done. They do not understand that we have developed a fragile tiny breed that needs some extra attention.

I always wondered how people could make much money breeding Yorkies. Now I know. Give them no care and still ask top dollar? Back to the problem though, how to educate the neighbor. I would ask her for a few minutes to discuss something serious. Then go over, sit down, and really tell her what you think about the way she is breeding. Tell her how dangerous it is and she will undoubtedly lose that little female -- what will that do to her profit margin? (If money is the only motivator -- use it!) I am surprised that she did not lose the momma after pulling the still born one out like that. How she did not wind up with an infection, I do not know. But you need to be blunt, factual, and serious. If you just say it matter-of-fact, it will be easy for her to push the advice aside. Tell her how important this is, and how inhumane the way she has been doing it is. Try to get her to understand these are living, breathing precious creatures that we have been blessed with and should not be treated as so much livestock. I take that part back, any farmer would give his livestock better care.

OP -- you know what is wrong, you know what she needs to do. If you do not know the details, you at least know she needs to get with a montor, or at least become educated on breeding. Somehow you also need to get her to open her heart and treat her puppies with more respect. It won't be easy, but by staying quiet, witnessing it, and still being her friend.... that is tacit approval of what she is doing. Sorry to have to say that but it is true. If you witness abuse, continue to associate, then you are saying what they are doing is not that bad. You have to draw a line in the sand and get her to understand it cannot be crossed.

I'm sorry if I "yelled" and offend anyone, I apologize , I just make me really sad and angry, before yt, I was very ignorant and completly uneducated about dogs in general and specialy yorkies, I grew up with dogs but it was my mother who took care of them, I just loved them and played with them, so when my dog was pregnant, I was an idiot too, that's why I read a lot about it, went to the vet and called my mother almost everyday to ask everything, then when she was in labor till the last pup was born, I stayed with her and to see your dog like that, the shaking, the panting, her eyes... My good... Everything is ok, I spayed and no more puppies for us, I can't handle the idea of losing her, there are exelent breeders that know what they doing, me? I don't know nothing about it.... So I learned from my ignorance, why can't she?I'm not reading this thread anymore, it makes me sad and angry, if there's any kind of happy ending pls pm and let me know, thanks everyone and again sorry.
Mire