How old is Hooks? Has he been neutered and is your female spayed? Hopefully this is just a phase he is going through.

My response is in blue:[QUOTE=Hooks_Yorkie;2685827]My questions were has anyone had this done and does it harm them physically other than our aesthetics. Some did respond, though perhaps there were not PHYSICALLY harmed other than not being able to bark anymore, the emotional harm was far worse. And hearing the pathetic little squeak was worse yet.

I tried the cans and spray bottle before I started the thread. I also rush ordered the citronelle tags and a vibrating spray tag and also the thing that you plug in and is suppose to deter them from barking. I simply haven't recieved them yet.These are just ways to scare and annoy them to stop, not correcting the problem in the first place, nor does it redirect the emotion they are trying to give you. Your pup could just be bored and want attention, simple as that. many trainers do not like citronella spray, it is very uncomfortable to say the least. I know you wouldn't want your dog to be uncomfortable. I would say these methods are more like anti-training IMO (not being positive reinforcement training, rather they are scare tactic training.) But hey, it has worked before! I will also try any of the new techniques mentioned in the thread. As I said originally, I was also looking into being able to completely stay off campus. I have to receive approval first.Hope everything works out for you.:)
Dogs don't bark for no reason. They bark to tell you something. There's someone at the door, there's a cat outside, I want to play, etc. Try to bond more with your dog and see what he is trying to tell you. The fact that he just recently started doing this shows he is trying to tell you something. Pay more attention to him and read his body language.

Also i want to add that I think many people were shocked that this would even be a consideration for you, that is why so many people posted in this thread, myself included. You would rehome over your dead body, most of us would debark over our dead bodies. We all care about you and your pups, that's why so many have responded. I hope you make the right decision. Best of luck to you and your pups.

I now know those two yorkies are in really good hands:thumbup: Good Luck.

I don't think this is a good idea. It cruel .:thumbdown

Personally, I would like to have some of my coworkers debarked...smile

LOL so true so true! I would have liked to debark some of these dumba$$ customers that came in today!!! :mad: sheesh

Yes, dogs do bark for a reason. Mainly because they are like kids and they want to be heard. Mine are always barking when they are playing. They bark at me when it is treat time. They bark to let me know when my dh is pulling in the driveway. They bark when I am trying to talk on the phone. :eek: Sometimes puppies bark just because they discover they can. I do have one male that is 10 years old and he has only barked a couple of times his whole life. When he whats something he usually just whines. Don't ask me why, I know he can bark but he just does not like to.

The only yorkie I have ever been around that was debarked could still bark but it was a soft bark. I don't think it bothered him at all but since yorkies can't talk I don't really know.:rolleyes:

He is 10 months old and already neutered. I got him neutered at 6 months when the vet said it was okay. He was fine for some reason up until June. Simone hasn't had her first heat yet and I wanted to wait until July when I can be at home all day and just watch her to make sure everything goes smoothly.

Nothing has changed between the. I bought new toys and extra bully sticks to see if that would deter him. I don't know if it is the new people, but they are moving out so maybe he will calm down. He seems perfectly happy he just seems to want to want to bark. It could be the echo from the empty house.

I was not in a rush to get him debarked. I just wanted all the information that I could before making a decision. We will just take it slow and see what happens. I never had to try more than one option when it came to him with potty training so I wanted to gather up all the info that I could and try it out.

Do they be walked daily?

Maybe it is to quiet in your house or apartment. I have a noisey window unit in our living room and that helps drowned out outside noises. I have noticed that my dogs bark more if it is to quiet in the house. I have fans running the year round.

WOW is all I can say. I'm really sorry to see so many negative responses in this thread. :( I am seriously against debarking, but that doesn't give anyone a right to attack this girl. I'm not saying that every negative thing someone posted was an attack - everyone's entitled to their opinion - but there are some truly hurtful things on here.

No, I don't think you should debark your dog. Especially considering he's more of an adult now and is used to his "voice." It would be the equivilent of someone taking away - or turning down - your voicebox. The sound of a debarked dog is like the sound of someone who has lost their voice.

I've got you in my prayers. I hope that you are able to find a place to live and that you can it doesnt' come down to debarking your dog - because there are definitely better ways to deal with barking. I don't doubt that you love your dogs, because if you didn't you wouldn't be trying to learn about the different options you have.

Hugs. :)

Wow, harsh much?

She's just asking for opinions, not to be completely bashed. I don't think she should de-bark him. But that was VERY rude. As a fellow college student, who DOES not enjoy partying, drinking or doing drugs.... I would much rather spend my time with my dog than go out and "party my ass off" as you say. Very rude and uncalled for comment.

The dogs sound like their in great hands, she cares about them obviously and is caring for them well.... give her some slack. She's just asking for information and opinions.

I still like the idea of debarking some of my coworkers..

I think that was a pretty crude comment and not really warranted.

OP, continue to try everything that you can. I'm glad to see that you are looking at debarking as a very last option. I think some of the YT members have given you some idea of how unfair it would be. And perhaps you didn't think about those issues. Now after reading how some dogs react and how sad it can be, you'll decide it isn't the thing to do. I'm also happy to hear that your male is neutered.
It sounds like you will continue trying and I'm glad to see that. I truly think if you keep trying, you're going to find something that is going to work.
Good luck

Anyways, @ Hooks_Yorkie, how much exercise do they get a day? I find that the more tired and worn out Jackson is - the less likely he is to bark. A tired dog makes for a quiet dog. Take him on at LEAST one long walk a day. I try to walk Jackson at minimum for 20 minutes every day but I usually try to make it a 30-40 minute walk. He gets very tired out from it. Or, I take him to a dog park or a friends house or a family members house where the scenery is different, different smells, etc, it wears them out for sure. But a higher-energy, nosier dog may need an hour walk or more. Take him to a fenced in field or a dog park where he can run off leash and burn his energy.

Also, he's only 10 months old... he's probably going through a phase that he can grow out of as long as you're consistent with the discipline while he barks. He's young, and "finding himself" if you will. If he's cooped up, "hidden" in a dorm room or wherever you live, he's probably bored!

I am personally offended by the fact that this 'woman' would debark an animal that she claims to love, and care for. It sickens me. That is my OPINION. Yourself and OP may not like it, but its mine. And i will post it.

I will not "giveher som slack".. IMO (The IMO being the main part) She is an irresposible owner for considering it. not better then somebody who doesnt let there dogs paws touch the ground , because they have it for a fashion statement. Its just in a different manner.

For a yorkie lover to support her actions is appualing. It really is.

They get a walk in the morning before class and in the afternoon we just play at the park while I have lunch and do homework. Then a walk/excercise in the evening. Hooks is kind of pudgy so I got them these tubes and things to jump over for queaky toys to see if he will run it off maybe.

I am starting to think that it may be the house. Simone is always skittish so I haven't noticed a change in her except when I did the can and spray stuff and they didn't want to come to me, but I think that may be it. He is an attention hog and I do let them kind of run all over and that may scare him.

As for partying and rehoming my dog. I don't party. Never have and never will. I enjoy myself quite a bit with my friends and my puppies, but again thank you for your concerns.

If all this is true, why did you not start your thread with a post like this? If you had said, I tried all of these things, and I have ordered all of these products, but am considering debarking as a last resort...... I think you would have gotten more carefully worded posts. You may have gotten input on some of the very products you NOW say you are waiting on. But you did not say you were going to try anything else at all. You said you had found a vet to do this debarking surgery.

You are also ignoring all of the questions put to you -- like: What happens if after you mutilate your dogs, they are found out in the dorm? If you are told you have to move or move them? What are you going to do then? Do you think your roommates are going to put up with barking through final exam time? What if you have a disagreement with a roommate? You don't think one will report your dogs? What about just a routine dorm inspection? What about personal integrity?

You also did not say you were waiting for approval to stay off campus. You said you did not think it was financially feasible. Yet, you have money for debarking surgery!

What if every single person in that dorm snuck in two dogs? What sort of chaos would there be? Why do you feel you are above the rules? I still do not believe for a minute being sneaked in and out of a dorm room is any kind of life for dogs, despite your description of their outings. Dogs need to be able to be dogs. They need to run, play, and BARK! Really loving our dogs, means putting their needs above our own. Sure you NEED them, they make YOU feel better. But if you really love them, you will not sneak them into a dorm where they are not allowed to live, you will not take away their voices just because you want to live in the dorm, and you will consider rehoming to a GOOD, pre-screened home that can provide what you obviously cannot.

Oh my Lord, I stated I am NOT FOR DE-BARKING. So, don't try to act like I'm supporting her actions and as "a fellow Yorkie lover, it's appalling".

She was JUST asking for opinions. And you people who are completely just SLAMMING her come out looking like the immature ones.

I disagree with what she's doing but I'm not going to slam her for it.

She asked for opinions, and she got them.
If she goes ahead with this, After seeing how it upsets people, she MUST know by now wht a horrible practice it is. I just REALLY hope she isnt that selfish, that she would put her own selfish wants, in front of her furbabies NEEDS.

No, not nearly as harsh as debarking a dog would be! Crude? Whatever part you're referring to can't be nearly as crude as debarking a dog. IT'S A DOG. It's not a toy. IT'S A DOG AND THEY BARK.
And I didn't tell anyone to drink, use drugs or any other manner of illegal activity. I partied a lot when I was young but didn't abuse my body doing it. Some of us party with friends, dance, play and generally have fun so don't turn my post into something it's not.
I stated MY opinion just like everyone else and MY views are valid, just like yours are.

I would no sooner take away my beautiful dogs voice than I would my children's voices! The OP KNEW going in she wasn't allowed a dog, she brought this on herself and isn't able, for whatever reason, to properly train the dogs so they have to get a cruel operation to prevent them from barking? Seriously? And I'm the bad guy???

It's too bad you don't like my way of speaking but I'm not one for beating around the bush. This is NOT OK, IN MY OPINION, and we are each expressing our INDIVIDUAL opinions. Mine is not withheld because you don't like my tone.

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Well Mr/Mrs. k9trainer, you could use a little more TACT:( or really a lot more!!

Very serious questions.

What if he or your other dog starts destroying your dorm one day when you are not there. Chewing thru drywall or damaging something that belongs to the school.. How will you explain that? Would you remove his teeth then too? Im serious.

What if he gets into the habit of bolting thru the dorm door suddenly.And somebody finds him. what would you do then? Youd have to give him up.
and if they didnt see him and catch you, would you have his legs amputated. I know, your thinking, THATS NOT THE SAME THING AT ALL. but you see. It is the same thing. Debarking is a needless, cruel procedure. Just as cruel as amputating his legs if he started darting from your dorm...

If you cannot see that this procedure is cruel. And if you cannot see that it is NOT in the best interest of your dog. And if you continue to think that you are not being selfish, and you are doing what is best for your dog. Then i am sorry. you still have alot of growing up to do.

I still dont understand why you brought the dogs into your situation. It was Such an irresponsible move.. When you are grown up, you make choices, you might not like them, but the choice you should have made before, was not to get a dog.

And the right choice, for you right now. Is to forget that debarking exists. The dog would be better off going to a knew home. Even if its a temp home until your done uni, you can get contracts made up stating that you want somebody to take care of him until college is over, and that they HAVE to give him back.

Actually, its MS.. thanks

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If I were you I would make al efforts to move of of campus ! I would never consider altering my dogs barking for the sake of "keeping them" in a place that I am not even suppose to have them :( This is what makes me most angry. YES, people are going to be upset and will post their opinions about your thread. I understand that all you wanted is feedback, and you have gotten more then what you thought you would get on here. It is a hot topic .
However, it is not what is in the best interest of your Yorkie's. I hope you do not do this . I am certain their are other options. The dogs needs ought to come first. Especially in this manner where they are not even allowed on campus!!! How cruel is it to debark a dog just to "sneak" one in on campus where he is not suppose to live in the first place. He is still a puppy for god's sake. :eek:

I didn't say that I set the appointment and please reassure me that my decision was a good one. I specifically asked did it cause physical harm and did anyone who has done it does it do any harm that you have noticed.

It is opintless for me to continue to argue or try to defend myself. I am after all a puppy mutilated selfish person. I will accept that it is the opinion that you have of me.

I was asking about a procedure that I had not decided to get done or even set an appt to get done. I found a vet who was recommended from someone that I talked to at my vet's office. He had done numerous sheltie and other dog owners said was wonderful and had a great attitude about helping you figure out what it mean etc. I came to YT for a second opinion to make sure that what he told me was correct.

Have a ball with this thread.

I am horrified that you want to debark a 10 month old puppy who has been barking for one month only for the fact that you want to continue to sneak him into a dorm room! You really need to take a step back and think about what you are saying and contemplating doing. :( Not only do you have one puppy but you just recently added a second one who is only a few months younger. You seem very impulsive in your actions and now you have put yourself into a situation again that you are going to make another impulsive decision.

I have only heard one dog that was debarked and I was about 10 yrs old, that was 34 yrs ago and the sound that came from that dog sticks in my head till today. Please do not do this to your precious little guy. This is just breaking my heart to even think about.

Video of a Debarked Dog
 

This is a video of a debarked dog. It still makes noise. And it's still an irritating, albiet kind of sad, noise.


Look I'm not going to judge you. People in my dorm snuck in dogs, too. Down the hall one of my sorority sisters had a yorkie.

Of course it's not a great idea because both of you can get the boot, but that's just the reality.

I would suggest the shake can...