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hearttx · 04-25-2009, 07:01 PM

OK, so I am finally writing to tell my story about my precious 4 month old "Oni". I bought a teacup(I know since I have read this site that that is a bad word) from this breeder and paid dearly for it. He was 1 lb and 3oz at 12 weeks and 1 lb 8oz at 13 weeks. He had diarrhea the first week I had him and he was all belly. Suddenly, he started gaining weight and gained over 1 lb a week for the next several weeks and currently at 4 months weighs about 4 lbs. He was suppose to weigh total 3-3 1/2 lbs. I know people on this site say don't worry about the size and he is so cute and he is adorable. But my heart was set on a smaller dog. I always wanted a small dog(3-5 lbs) and I did not come to this site until after my purchase and did all the wrong things that I should had investigated. My excitement of getting a dog was beyond my judgement. My daughter was in a auto accident back in Oct of 2008 and she had tramatic brain injury and I have been by her side since then and we almost lost her 3 times. The dog was my way to get outside of her problems and do something for myself. This breeder will never know the hurt he cause me by being dishonest. I love my "Oni" and he is so smart. I just had to give up my idea of my perfect dog and it coming on the trail of alot of hard hard months of intensive nursing my daughter back to health. She likes a long way to go for recovery(tramatic brain injury take a long time). Any way I tried contact the breeder and of course no response. I just wanted to share this with everybody cause I needed to unload on somebody. Oni is toally crate trained and working on potty trained. He is a very smart dog. It is not the dog, it is my concept of getting what I wanted and him robbing me of my "therapy" by what I thought I wanted. Please don't get on me for my dream of a small dog, it was a release of alot of hard hard months and it is what it is. I love him, of course I just had to give up the "imagery" of what I thought I wanted. Thanks for listening.

Mysweetbabies · 04-25-2009, 08:11 PM

I am very sorry about your daughter. You and your family our in my prayers. Don't feel bad about wanting a small dog. You were misled from the breeder. Yorkies are so adorable and I know you love the one you have now. Maybe later when your daughter recovers you can get another one that will be smaller. You can't have just one

gracieandbilly · 04-25-2009, 08:13 PM

When I bought Gracie, I knew absolutely nothing about puppy sizes and just went by what the breeder told me. I was told she was a teacup and was going to be tiny when fully grown. Well, she certainly isn't tiny! lol She's over ten pounds. I know the breeder was taking advantage of my lack of knowledge to make a sale, but I don't care at all! I wouldn't trade Gracie for a million tiny yorkies! I am so thankful for her and could not care less what size she is! She is precious to me. She just turned 8 months, and I recently got another yorkie. I believe he's going to be very tiny fully grown, but even if he's as big as mastiff, I don't care! Won't make me love him a bit less.
Just love your furbaby for who he is. There's just more of him to love than you expected!

beemidiwfe · 04-25-2009, 08:19 PM

When reading your post it seems that you are asking for two things. You want to have someone make you feel better about your dog and you also want to be supported in being disappointed about your dog.

Can you see what I mean?

I am sorry for what you are going through with your daughter and I hear you when you say that this disappointment with the dog is hard to assimilate after all you have been going through. There is nothing really that a stranger can say to help you on anything but a superficial level.

This is my experience with my dog. I bought her too quickly without much research or shopping around. I feel fortunate that she is as healthy as she is with my poor research! AFTER I got my dog I started looking into the breed more closely. I found the growth charts and her size for age wasn't even on the charts! She was 3 1/2 pounds when I got her at 10 weeks. She seems to be full grown now at 8 months at 8 pounds 4 ounces. Well, she has been this size for over a month.

I also began to notice that she had a long body, not the boxy shape she should have. I started to feel a little sick to my stomach about it. Once the dog was mine it was forever and I wished I had been more selective. I won't be getting another one and this one is going to be different than, even less than, what I had expected. I want her because I have bonded with her and she is not an object that can be returned or traded in, but I also felt 'stuck' with her.

But then time passed and it all mattered less and less. I thought about if I had made a list of what I wanted in a dog health and personality would have been first along with price (I didn't want to spend $1500 on a dog especially when my husband was opposed to me getting one at all). After that was size, I wanted 5-7 pounds, and coloring. Once I realized what my real priorities were I felt less like I had made a mistake. It also helps that with each day that passes I am more in love with her.

I think (I hope) this is what happens for you. If I can offer any advice it would be to focus on the positive and let the rest go. I am sure you are doing this with your child, you have to to survive the trauma!

I hope this helps. And please if any of this came off as offensive I apologize. I really tried not to be.

sandyapk · 04-25-2009, 09:00 PM

I am sorry for the accident your daughter had. Yes it is a long recovery. I hope you will come here and post often, and get some support. There are lots of understanding and kind people here that will listen, and give you words of encouragement.

I hear what you are saying about your dog. I love my Mia and in some ways wish she was smaller too. It would be easier for me to take her places, and carry her for longer periods of time without my back hurting. We all have our reasons for what we want. And that is okay!

I hope you find comfort and peace as you walk through this difficult healing path for your daughter. You will be in my prayers. Sending you hugs and prayers.

WalnutHill · 04-25-2009, 09:35 PM

Like everyone else, I hear what you are saying. it's not bad that you wanted a small dog, so don't feel guilty at all. A lot of people want a puppy that will grow up to be on the smaller end of the breed standard. The problem is that the "breeder" completely lied to you. Now, as a breeder, I know that adult weights are difficult to judge accurately, but we know when a dog will be big and when a dog will be small. It is rare that small parents throw huge pups.

Basically what I'm saying is that you were lied to, and I know you feel like you were taken advantage of.

But - your little man sounds so smart and so loving and so sweet! He will be everything you wanted in a compantion! And, like Mysweetbabies said, you can get another one down the road that will eb the size you are looking for - a companion for you and Oni!

I know that long-term medical care can be very difficult, but you have loads of support here! If you just need to vent, come on here and type. : ) We'll all listen! And, we'll all be praying for your daughter.

LilMissy · 04-25-2009, 09:41 PM

I think that you should try to think of this situation in more of a positive light. Everything happens for a reason and it sounds like Oni is a total gem!

nanahas3 · 04-25-2009, 10:06 PM

I am so very sorry that you and your daughter are having to go through all of this but with prayer all things are possible through Christ who strengthens us. I understand also about your disappoint with your little furbaby I to was uneducated when we got Laddy and I worried so much after finding out that he was the product of close inbreeding but the people here at YT were fantastic in helping me see that even with the start he had he could grow up to be perfectly healthy( which was my greatest concern) I was told by the breeder (puppy miller) to bring him back but like you had bonded with him. Now I have come to the point where if he grew a second head he would still be my precious baby. Just give your little guy time and it will work out for you even though he isnt a tiny. I tell my DH that Laddy is the best antidepresent I have ever had. I had been through caring for my dying father and watching him pass in a very painful way. I know if you just let him your little guy can help to lift your spirits in the same way. Good luck to you and yours and God Bless you.

CharleneMama to Laddy

Sugar's Mom · 04-26-2009, 03:46 AM

I am so sorry about your daughter and understand completely. But having said that, I feel everyone is too quick to blame the breeder when a dog matures and possibly is not the exact dog a person is looking for. Even honest breeders can only use the growth chart and guess what a dog will weigh. Any breeder that will guarantee the size of a dog is unethical and people should not buy one from that breeder. Yorkies are a lot like a box of chocolates. You never know what you will get. Of course we research our lines and do all the right things but being a breeder myself, I have held pups back for myself that I thought would be perfect, from two near perfect parents and then as they mature, I have watched their back, legs or whatever stretch out or their weight just get more than what I wanted or not as big as what I wanted. There is just no way to tell and people really need to undertand this. Sounds like you have gotten a wonderful pup and if you let him, he will make you very happy.

hearttx · 04-26-2009, 03:58 AM

I totally agree with your statements but this breeder will not contact me or tell me how big the parents were or anything. A good breeder would at least tell me that information and say what the history of the previous pups were. Yes, you sound like a good professional breeder but I did not get one. I can deal with," I did not expect this to happen" but total silent and no recourse or compensation equals a bad breeder with money being the primary purpose.

crystalsmom · 04-26-2009, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

I am so sorry about your daughter and understand completely. But having said that, I feel everyone is too quick to blame the breeder when a dog matures and possibly is not the exact dog a person is looking for. Even honest breeders can only use the growth chart and guess what a dog will weigh. Any breeder that will guarantee the size of a dog is unethical and people should not buy one from that breeder. Yorkies are a lot like a box of chocolates. You never know what you will get. Of course we research our lines and do all the right things but being a breeder myself, I have held pups back for myself that I thought would be perfect, from two near perfect parents and then as they mature, I have watched their back, legs or whatever stretch out or their weight just get more than what I wanted or not as big as what I wanted. There is just no way to tell and people really need to undertand this. Sounds like you have gotten a wonderful pup and if you let him, he will make you very happy.

I agree, although I am not a breeder but after being in yorkies for over 20 yrs, I have found you cannot guarantee size but only estimate to the best of your ability. A certain line can produce mostly small, a certain sire and dam can produce mostly small but never a guarantee.

FlDebra · 04-26-2009, 04:48 AM

I understand your feelings. When I first went looking for a Yorkie, it was because I too, wanted that tiny little dog I had seen before. My mom actually had two many years before so I was wanting the same thing. If I had gotten a Yorkie that grew very large, I would have been disappointed.

But I think as someone else said, all things happen for a reason. Maybe YOU were needed by this puppy! Obviously someone had not been feeding it right, trying to keep it small. That is probably why you were immediately faced with digestive problems. I know you were the one needing solace and comfort too but this little one may have been saved by you.

I pray your daughter's recovery continues successfully and that you find ways to take care of yourself through such a stressful time.

Sugar's Mom · 04-26-2009, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by hearttx

I totally agree with your statements but this breeder will not contact me or tell me how big the parents were or anything. A good breeder would at least tell me that information and say what the history of the previous pups were. Yes, you sound like a good professional breeder but I did not get one. I can deal with," I did not expect this to happen" but total silent and no recourse or compensation equals a bad breeder with money being the primary purpose.

you are right. one good thing, now you know not to ever go back there again. It's a shame you didn't find us when you were looking.

manolos mom · 04-26-2009, 05:32 AM

First let me say I so sorry about your daughter, I hope everything goes well down the road for her. Your Breeder is a notorious scammer and I feel for you. He has changed his website name again. Use to be YorkiePup. Now its Your Pup. Im so sorry, he is about 30 miles from my home. Glad you baby is smart and cute. Please send us pics. But where ONI came from was not good. Glad he has you and a great home...You can always find a great companion for ONI from YT breeders. Im glad he is safe and happy.

flafox67 · 04-26-2009, 06:34 AM

So sorry to hear about your daughter. Sounds like she's got a great mom to help her through her recovery.

If it helps, I brought home my Sophie at 16 weeks and she weight 3.5 lbs. She is now almost 10 months and is between 5-6 lbs. Sophie didn't follow the double the 4 month weight rule or the growth charts, so don't completely give up hope yet. Regardless, it does sound like you got a great baby regardless of how big he gets.

04-25-2009, 07:01 PM	#1
hearttx Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Santa Anna, TX Posts: 148	Another person scammed by yourpup.com OK, so I am finally writing to tell my story about my precious 4 month old "Oni". I bought a teacup(I know since I have read this site that that is a bad word) from this breeder and paid dearly for it. He was 1 lb and 3oz at 12 weeks and 1 lb 8oz at 13 weeks. He had diarrhea the first week I had him and he was all belly. Suddenly, he started gaining weight and gained over 1 lb a week for the next several weeks and currently at 4 months weighs about 4 lbs. He was suppose to weigh total 3-3 1/2 lbs. I know people on this site say don't worry about the size and he is so cute and he is adorable. But my heart was set on a smaller dog. I always wanted a small dog(3-5 lbs) and I did not come to this site until after my purchase and did all the wrong things that I should had investigated. My excitement of getting a dog was beyond my judgement. My daughter was in a auto accident back in Oct of 2008 and she had tramatic brain injury and I have been by her side since then and we almost lost her 3 times. The dog was my way to get outside of her problems and do something for myself. This breeder will never know the hurt he cause me by being dishonest. I love my "Oni" and he is so smart. I just had to give up my idea of my perfect dog and it coming on the trail of alot of hard hard months of intensive nursing my daughter back to health. She likes a long way to go for recovery(tramatic brain injury take a long time). Any way I tried contact the breeder and of course no response. I just wanted to share this with everybody cause I needed to unload on somebody. Oni is toally crate trained and working on potty trained. He is a very smart dog. It is not the dog, it is my concept of getting what I wanted and him robbing me of my "therapy" by what I thought I wanted. Please don't get on me for my dream of a small dog, it was a release of alot of hard hard months and it is what it is. I love him, of course I just had to give up the "imagery" of what I thought I wanted. Thanks for listening.

04-25-2009, 08:11 PM	#2
Mysweetbabies YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,236	I am very sorry about your daughter. You and your family our in my prayers. Don't feel bad about wanting a small dog. You were misled from the breeder. Yorkies are so adorable and I know you love the one you have now. Maybe later when your daughter recovers you can get another one that will be smaller. You can't have just one __________________ DaisyRoscoBo

04-25-2009, 08:19 PM	#4
beemidiwfe Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Waleska, GA USA Posts: 106	When reading your post it seems that you are asking for two things. You want to have someone make you feel better about your dog and you also want to be supported in being disappointed about your dog. Can you see what I mean? I am sorry for what you are going through with your daughter and I hear you when you say that this disappointment with the dog is hard to assimilate after all you have been going through. There is nothing really that a stranger can say to help you on anything but a superficial level. This is my experience with my dog. I bought her too quickly without much research or shopping around. I feel fortunate that she is as healthy as she is with my poor research! AFTER I got my dog I started looking into the breed more closely. I found the growth charts and her size for age wasn't even on the charts! She was 3 1/2 pounds when I got her at 10 weeks. She seems to be full grown now at 8 months at 8 pounds 4 ounces. Well, she has been this size for over a month. I also began to notice that she had a long body, not the boxy shape she should have. I started to feel a little sick to my stomach about it. Once the dog was mine it was forever and I wished I had been more selective. I won't be getting another one and this one is going to be different than, even less than, what I had expected. I want her because I have bonded with her and she is not an object that can be returned or traded in, but I also felt 'stuck' with her. But then time passed and it all mattered less and less. I thought about if I had made a list of what I wanted in a dog health and personality would have been first along with price (I didn't want to spend $1500 on a dog especially when my husband was opposed to me getting one at all). After that was size, I wanted 5-7 pounds, and coloring. Once I realized what my real priorities were I felt less like I had made a mistake. It also helps that with each day that passes I am more in love with her. I think (I hope) this is what happens for you. If I can offer any advice it would be to focus on the positive and let the rest go. I am sure you are doing this with your child, you have to to survive the trauma! I hope this helps. And please if any of this came off as offensive I apologize. I really tried not to be. __________________ Beth and Daisy (Chrysanthemum leucanthemum) Daisy Ezra Thelma Tucker and 200,000+ honey bees

04-25-2009, 09:35 PM	#6
WalnutHill ♥ Catherine My Love ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,354 Blog Entries: 15	Like everyone else, I hear what you are saying. it's not bad that you wanted a small dog, so don't feel guilty at all. A lot of people want a puppy that will grow up to be on the smaller end of the breed standard. The problem is that the "breeder" completely lied to you. Now, as a breeder, I know that adult weights are difficult to judge accurately, but we know when a dog will be big and when a dog will be small. It is rare that small parents throw huge pups. Basically what I'm saying is that you were lied to, and I know you feel like you were taken advantage of. But - your little man sounds so smart and so loving and so sweet! He will be everything you wanted in a compantion! And, like Mysweetbabies said, you can get another one down the road that will eb the size you are looking for - a companion for you and Oni! I know that long-term medical care can be very difficult, but you have loads of support here! If you just need to vent, come on here and type. : ) We'll all listen! And, we'll all be praying for your daughter. __________________ Yorkie Splash ~ Yorkie shampoo Use the code ytdiscount at checkout for 10% off your purchase

04-25-2009, 09:41 PM	#7
LilMissy Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 3,421	I think that you should try to think of this situation in more of a positive light. Everything happens for a reason and it sounds like Oni is a total gem! __________________ Shaunna with Missy (my princess) & Dora (my tomboy)

04-25-2009, 08:13 PM	#3
gracieandbilly YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 5	When I bought Gracie, I knew absolutely nothing about puppy sizes and just went by what the breeder told me. I was told she was a teacup and was going to be tiny when fully grown. Well, she certainly isn't tiny! lol She's over ten pounds. I know the breeder was taking advantage of my lack of knowledge to make a sale, but I don't care at all! I wouldn't trade Gracie for a million tiny yorkies! I am so thankful for her and could not care less what size she is! She is precious to me. She just turned 8 months, and I recently got another yorkie. I believe he's going to be very tiny fully grown, but even if he's as big as mastiff, I don't care! Won't make me love him a bit less. Just love your furbaby for who he is. There's just more of him to love than you expected!

04-25-2009, 09:00 PM	#5
sandyapk Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: at home Posts: 515	I am sorry for the accident your daughter had. Yes it is a long recovery. I hope you will come here and post often, and get some support. There are lots of understanding and kind people here that will listen, and give you words of encouragement. I hear what you are saying about your dog. I love my Mia and in some ways wish she was smaller too. It would be easier for me to take her places, and carry her for longer periods of time without my back hurting. We all have our reasons for what we want. And that is okay! I hope you find comfort and peace as you walk through this difficult healing path for your daughter. You will be in my prayers. Sending you hugs and prayers.

04-25-2009, 10:06 PM	#8
nanahas3 ♥Love My Snuggle Bugs♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Missouri Posts: 4,290	I am so very sorry that you and your daughter are having to go through all of this but with prayer all things are possible through Christ who strengthens us. I understand also about your disappoint with your little furbaby I to was uneducated when we got Laddy and I worried so much after finding out that he was the product of close inbreeding but the people here at YT were fantastic in helping me see that even with the start he had he could grow up to be perfectly healthy( which was my greatest concern) I was told by the breeder (puppy miller) to bring him back but like you had bonded with him. Now I have come to the point where if he grew a second head he would still be my precious baby. Just give your little guy time and it will work out for you even though he isnt a tiny. I tell my DH that Laddy is the best antidepresent I have ever had. I had been through caring for my dying father and watching him pass in a very painful way. I know if you just let him your little guy can help to lift your spirits in the same way. Good luck to you and yours and God Bless you. *CharleneMama to Laddy*

04-26-2009, 03:46 AM	#9
Sugar's Mom BANNED! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 9,248	I am so sorry about your daughter and understand completely. But having said that, I feel everyone is too quick to blame the breeder when a dog matures and possibly is not the exact dog a person is looking for. Even honest breeders can only use the growth chart and guess what a dog will weigh. Any breeder that will guarantee the size of a dog is unethical and people should not buy one from that breeder. Yorkies are a lot like a box of chocolates. You never know what you will get. Of course we research our lines and do all the right things but being a breeder myself, I have held pups back for myself that I thought would be perfect, from two near perfect parents and then as they mature, I have watched their back, legs or whatever stretch out or their weight just get more than what I wanted or not as big as what I wanted. There is just no way to tell and people really need to undertand this. Sounds like you have gotten a wonderful pup and if you let him, he will make you very happy.

04-26-2009, 03:58 AM	#10
hearttx Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Santa Anna, TX Posts: 148	I totally agree with your statements but this breeder will not contact me or tell me how big the parents were or anything. A good breeder would at least tell me that information and say what the history of the previous pups were. Yes, you sound like a good professional breeder but I did not get one. I can deal with," I did not expect this to happen" but total silent and no recourse or compensation equals a bad breeder with money being the primary purpose.

04-26-2009, 04:48 AM	#12
FlDebra Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: FL Posts: 7,651	I understand your feelings. When I first went looking for a Yorkie, it was because I too, wanted that tiny little dog I had seen before. My mom actually had two many years before so I was wanting the same thing. If I had gotten a Yorkie that grew very large, I would have been disappointed. But I think as someone else said, all things happen for a reason. Maybe YOU were needed by this puppy! Obviously someone had not been feeding it right, trying to keep it small. That is probably why you were immediately faced with digestive problems. I know you were the one needing solace and comfort too but this little one may have been saved by you. I pray your daughter's recovery continues successfully and that you find ways to take care of yourself through such a stressful time. __________________ FlDebra and her ABCs Annie, Ben, Candy Promoting Healthy Breeding to the AKC Yorkshire Terrier Standard

04-26-2009, 05:32 AM	#14
manolos mom Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 7,982	First let me say I so sorry about your daughter, I hope everything goes well down the road for her. Your Breeder is a notorious scammer and I feel for you. He has changed his website name again. Use to be YorkiePup. Now its Your Pup. Im so sorry, he is about 30 miles from my home. Glad you baby is smart and cute. Please send us pics. But where ONI came from was not good. Glad he has you and a great home...You can always find a great companion for ONI from YT breeders. Im glad he is safe and happy. __________________ Ethical Breeders follow and support http://www.ytca.org/

04-26-2009, 06:34 AM	#15
flafox67 YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tallahassee, FL, USA Posts: 253	So sorry to hear about your daughter. Sounds like she's got a great mom to help her through her recovery. If it helps, I brought home my Sophie at 16 weeks and she weight 3.5 lbs. She is now almost 10 months and is between 5-6 lbs. Sophie didn't follow the double the 4 month weight rule or the growth charts, so don't completely give up hope yet. Regardless, it does sound like you got a great baby regardless of how big he gets.