What the heck is the purpose of this!?!?! Makes me angry!

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by blahblah

the most dangerous part of using a zip tie is that if it gets pulled just right it will tighten on the neck and possibly chock the dog if it gets tight enough Very sad that a breeder is doing this, you would thing a breeder would know better but i guess not in this case

OMG -- now I realize how horrible that really is. I thought it was bad enough already, but wasn't even thinking that they would keep getting tighter. But you're right a zip tie will just keep getting tighter if it gets pulled on at all -- it won't adjust in reverse, but it will keep getting tighter! How could anyone do that?

[blahblah]

i know! very very sad

[Breeze]

Not to mention the hard pointy tip left on the end could poke out another puppie's eye. This is very dangerous!

[JJC]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

What do you use to distinguish between puppies when recording weights as they grow? Do you read the microchip each time you weigh? I don't have a reader and have not chipped the puppies yet. Do you chip them right away?

I have yarn around mine. I change it every few days so that it never gets too tight or too loose. I had a soft velcro in different colors that I was going to use, but I didn't have 5 colors so I used the yarn this time. I would like a better method than the yarn. But why is it so bad? I am feeling like I shouldn't even be admitting to the yarn. But seriously, I would never do anything to hurt these precious little ones!

I would never use zip ties though -- they would not give at all if they got caught on something and just the hard plastic seems like it would be terribly uncomfortable and might rub them raw.

I'm not a breeder but I wonder if different colored bands using material or ribbon and velcro would work.(?)


The zip ties are just plain WRONG!

[chestermama]

that is absolutely horrible, I cannot believe people now days

[JohnnieWalker]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

What do you use to distinguish between puppies when recording weights as they grow? Do you read the microchip each time you weigh? I don't have a reader and have not chipped the puppies yet. Do you chip them right away?

I have yarn around mine. I change it every few days so that it never gets too tight or too loose. I had a soft velcro in different colors that I was going to use, but I didn't have 5 colors so I used the yarn this time. I would like a better method than the yarn. But why is it so bad? I am feeling like I shouldn't even be admitting to the yarn. But seriously, I would never do anything to hurt these precious little ones!

I would never use zip ties though -- they would not give at all if they got caught on something and just the hard plastic seems like it would be terribly uncomfortable and might rub them raw.

I noticed you said you used velcro before. There is a velcro available I've got to tie up my plants with. (Got it at Home Depot) It's green fabric and I'm sue if you used a sharpie or magic marker you could write a name of the individual puppy on it. I'm not a breeder but the problem of identifying these little critters intrigues me. Maybe this will help you. I don't think you're doing anything wrong by using yarn. Sounds like you're being very careful.
This thing with the zip tie is just plain wrong! What kind of a "breeder" would do such a thing? I just hope, based on this photo nobody would buy a dog from such a place. I'm going to try and find that ad to let them know.

[mscat]

Oh dear I have NEVER seen anyone do that to a animal. How wrong is that I'd like to put a zip tie around her /breeders neck poor baby yorkie

[SophieKatesMom]

Oh I wish I hadn't looked at that picture, it really bothers me. I hope someone who is experience breeder see's that picture and perhaps inform whomever the puppy owner is how dangerous that is.

[jmdt]

Originally Posted by stedmansmommy

Hmmm....for some reason when I click on it from here, it say's that the listing has been deleted. However, I can still get to it if I go directly to the site

Did you make any kind of contact. Please tell them this is not right. I can't get to it. It also says deleted.

[Yorkielove1]

Wow disturbing.. there HAVE to be other ways to identify a pup. What a bad idea!!

[stedmansmommy]

Ok.....who e-mailed the breeder and posed as ME?

I got an e-mail directly from the breeder explaining the zip tie situtation and she sent me an e-mail directly to my e-mail address. I want to know how she got MY e-mail address.

I never e-mailed her asking her anything, nor did I ever contact her through Puppyfind.

Who from YT did this?

[blahblah]

?? maybe their a member here and saw your post and emailed you? i dunnow if you can get members email address but it's just an idea i had LOL

but what was the reason of the ziptie?? it better be a good one

[cashsmommy]

what did he or she say about the zip tie?

[stedmansmommy]

Originally Posted by blahblah

?? maybe their a member here and saw your post and emailed you? i dunnow if you can get members email address but it's just an idea i had LOL

but what was the reason of the ziptie?? it better be a good one

If she is a member here that's fine - but HOW did she get my personal e-mail address? I do not know this breeder so there is no way that she would of had my e-mail address. And why wouldn't she of just replied to this thread or PM'd me personally? Also, she sent me a reply from Puppyfind, directly to my e-mail, so it's as if I e-mailed her from Puppyfind when in fact I did nothing of the kind.

Here was her reply:

"Thank you for your consideration. We would not leave these on them if we were not monitoring them closely. We have never had a puppy to tighten them, however, we cannot leave them on them long as the puppies grow.
Pat"

--blahblah....your user name says it all

[jmmx3]

that hurts my heartt!
I wouldn't put anything but a soft harness on Rox for her first two years because I was so worried about her little trachea...