Our new next door neighbor...

[Princes mom]

Originally Posted by Ashley V

So what exactly would you consider a "potentially dangerous dog"? How exactly would you classify them? Would it be breed specific? I'm just trying to figure out exactly what YOU think should be done with these dogs that have caused no harm.

ETA - Also I NEVER said that YOU said all of them were bad. My point is, why punish all the owners of a certain breed just because of SOME bad ones? You should get YOUR facts straight.

Google "potentially dangerous dogs." Read the list. What I think should be done with the dogs is again, my opinion. Really, something should be done to the owners and breeders who are irresponsible, then this conversation would be moot!

[heatherm0890]

idk if this has been brought up earlier as i have not read this entire thread but another thing to consider is the area you are from....while there maybe responsible pit owners elsewhere that is NOT the case from where I am from...ppl around here use them to fight or be intimidating and do not properly train them....thats is why i am so scared of them,a lil girl was killed two houses down from me....not all are bad but you do have to consider ppls personal experiences with them that make them have a certain opinion abut them...im not saying they are bad because i do have a doberman and german shephard and believe me they are big teddy bears lol but i do understand some ppl are scared or prejudiced against them because they are an intimidating dog

[Belindtch]

I took my 3 yorkies (l0, 8, and 4 pounds) to the public walking park. My girls love going there and we have been going for the last 3 years. Yesterday my husband was with me. We walked for awhile and then sat down on a bench. The two larger dogs were under the bench and the small one was on the bench. All of a sudden I heard a big, loud growl from Lucy. I turned around and there less than 3 feet away stood a white pit bull. Lucy was not scared and was trying to get where she could see him/or her. She has no idea she weighs only 4 pounds. I scream and tell my husband to pick up the girls. He did by their leashes and put them on the bench. The dog was staying there. I clapped my hands as I had nothing to throw at him. We hesitantly went about 6 feet away and stood. Usually there are a lot of people in the park but right then there were no one. Finally, the dog ran up the trail and went under the fence where he came from. There is a large auto shop there and he is a guard dog for the business. Every couple of minutes he could crawl under and look down at us. We had to go by him to get to our car. My husband carried the l0 and 8 pound dogs. When he passed where the dog was he came out. Both of our dogs growled and so did the pit bull. My husband said he squeezed the dogs tighter and walked faster. He made it to the car. Lucy and I walked to the other end of the park and waited for them to come get us. I hate to complain but I plan to on Monday. That park is for everyone and it is an accident waiting to happen when you have guard dogs that stay inside l2 foot wooden fences backed by a wire fence with sharp wire on top. Not only do other dogs go there but so do young children. The dog had no collar. I did see 2 other pit bulls tied up in the area. They barked as we went by but did not come face to face. I don't feel safe going back there and that is not fair. It is a beautiful place for taking dogs or the family.

[Princes mom]

Originally Posted by Britster

I'm not disagreeing with this at all. I actually quite agree. I should have specified more. As I said, he's the sweetest dog ever. But I still do not fully trust him around my little dog or little kids or.. people. You never know who he is not going to like and want to attack, especially if it's in his blood. As my post said, I would never own one. I've read a ton of stories about pit bulls whose owners said they were their babies and then snap, something happens! It's in the news all the time. But I think the news is focused on negative things and nobody hears the positive stories about pit bulls either. I've never had a personal experience around this area with a pit bull who did such a thing. I'm not fully disagreeing with you at all. I just think that one comment was a little rude.

Here is a positive story...

Pit Bull Helps Police Catch Wanted Man - Oklahoma City News Story - KOCO Oklahoma City

[Princes mom]

Originally Posted by heatherm0890

idk if this has been brought up earlier as i have not read this entire thread but another thing to consider is the area you are from....while there maybe responsible pit owners elsewhere that is NOT the case from where I am from...ppl around here use them to fight or be intimidating and do not properly train them....thats is why i am so scared of them,a lil girl was killed two houses down from me....not all are bad but you do have to consider ppls personal experiences with them that make them have a certain opinion abut them...im not saying they are bad because i do have a doberman and german shephard and believe me they are big teddy bears lol but i do understand some ppl are scared or prejudiced against them because they are an intimidating dog

I could not have said it better.

[bahamian]

Hi everyone,
This is my first post on this forum. I live n The Bahamas. This topic here is one close to me.
My wife and I are a yorkie owner and we love him to death. His name is Diallo (which means bold one) and he recently turned 5 on April 11th, 2009. I imported him to The Bahamas from a breeder in Missouri, USA. I will post pics of him soon.
Diallo is our first yorkie but we wii definitely be getting another sometime in the near future.

We are also, the owner of 4 adult pit bull terriers (and currently 4 puppies). I have been an owner/breeder of pit bulls for about 20 years now.

From the time we've had Diallo, he thaught that he and the other dogs were buddies. There was one of my pits in particular (who recently died), that Diallo swore was his "girlfriend". This particular female Diallo played with regularly. There are a few others that he would play with but it is/was ALWAYS supervised!

Now, there are a few of my pits that I would not, under any circumstance let Diallo be around!
The American Pit Bull Terrier is a breed that MANY people (especially the media) do not fully know/understand! When I hear people saying stuff like ,"big 90lb pit bull attack..........." , tells me rite there that they don't know the breed.
With out getting into any specific, a pit is a very loyal breed that would LITTERALLY die to please his/her owner! This breed is genetically hard wired for dog aggression. This breed is genetically hard wired to be passive towards humans! Period. Can this dog aggression be tamed with training...........YES!
Can they be trained to be aggressive to humans......................yes!

If your neighbor has pits, I would definitely be concerned for your yorkie. But IF your neighbor has his yard/dog properly secured, everything should be ok. Also, as a yorkie owner, we all know that they are very bold, so you must keep them from going in the neighbors yard to play with the pit.

One last thing about my Diallo! Because he is so used to being around the pits, he tends not to like smaller dogs. He much preferes to play with a dog that weighs between 33lbs and 50lbs!

Take care everyone.

[heatherm0890]

Originally Posted by bahamian

Hi everyone,
This is my first post on this forum. I live n The Bahamas. This topic here is one close to me.
My wife and I are a yorkie owner and we love him to death. His name is Diallo (which means bold one) and he recently turned 5 on April 11th, 2009. I imported him to The Bahamas from a breeder in Missouri, USA. I will post pics of him soon.
Diallo is our first yorkie but we wii definitely be getting another sometime in the near future.

We are also, the owner of 4 adult pit bull terriers (and currently 4 puppies). I have been an owner/breeder of pit bulls for about 20 years now.

From the time we've had Diallo, he thaught that he and the other dogs were buddies. There was one of my pits in particular (who recently died), that Diallo swore was his "girlfriend". This particular female Diallo played with regularly. There are a few others that he would play with but it is/was ALWAYS supervised!

Now, there are a few of my pits that I would not, under any circumstance let Diallo be around!
The American Pit Bull Terrier is a breed that MANY people (especially the media) do not fully know/understand! When I hear people saying stuff like ,"big 90lb pit bull attack..........." , tells me rite there that they don't know the breed.
With out getting into any specific, a pit is a very loyal breed that would LITTERALLY die to please his/her owner! This breed is genetically hard wired for dog aggression. This breed is genetically hard wired to be passive towards humans! Period. Can this dog aggression be tamed with training...........YES!
Can they be trained to be aggressive to humans......................yes!

If your neighbor has pits, I would definitely be concerned for your yorkie. But IF your neighbor has his yard/dog properly secured, everything should be ok. Also, as a yorkie owner, we all know that they are very bold, so you must keep them from going in the neighbors yard to play with the pit.

One last thing about my Diallo! Because he is so used to being around the pits, he tends not to like smaller dogs. He much preferes to play with a dog that weighs between 33lbs and 50lbs!

Take care everyone.

that was a great post!welcome to YT we are glad to have you

[Ashley V]

Originally Posted by Princes mom

Google "potentially dangerous dogs." Read the list. What I think should be done with the dogs is again, my opinion. Really, something should be done to the owners and breeders who are irresponsible, then this conversation would be moot!

I don't need to google "potentially dangerous dogs". I know what they are and I used to own one, and yes she was actually dangerous (towards other animals, not people), but she was controlled to the highest extent. My husband used to own several that would be considered a "dangerous breed" but they weren't.

Actually did you know that pit bulls are supposed to be excellent therapy dogs and are frequently sought after for the job?

I've worked with several of those "dangerous" dogs in rescues and believe me when I say that they aren't any more dangerous than any other dog. I've had more problems from the so called docile, gentle breeds than I have the pits, rotties, dobbies, akitas, huskys, gsd, etc.

When I was younger (like 10-11 yo), I took my dangerous Sharpei out for her nightly potty trip and I saw this dalmation that was loose and he was also known to be dangerous. I yelled for my cousin to take my dog inside before she caught sight of the other dog and then we would have had serious problems. She took my dog inside and I was alone, in the dark, with this darn pyscho dog. He started circling me. He was eyeing me and just waiting for a sudden movement from me to attack. I stood as still as I could. Thankfully, the owner came and got the dog before he attacked. About a year later, that same dog bite a girl's eye out. Do I hold anything against dalmations? No. My aunt owns one now and owned one previously and they wouldn't hurt anything. Another story - same neighborhood - I was riding my bike around the sidewalks and this woman let her unleashed lab out. The lab starts chasing me and biting at my heels, growling and mouth drooling. I rode as fast as I could and she finally called the dog off. Another story - I was petting a pomeranian and he randomly turned around and bit me. A pomeranian?! Yes, a pomeranian. Oh and my famous Chihuahua story - 6 years old. We were at an open house and I bent down with my hand extended like you are supposed to when greeting an unknown dog and I was talking softly to the dog. The little pyscho lunged at my face, I stood up and almost fell backwards into a pool. I was bitten by my ex boyfriend's cocker spaniel in the face for no apparent reason. My own yorkie has bit me!

My point is, any dog can be mean. Any dog can bite... I don't care whether they are 150 lbs or 2 lbs. I just hate when people blame an entire breed for something that could be prevented and for one dog's behavior. I also think the media plays a huge role in people's opinions of pit bulls. These reporters know that people would be interested in hearing about a pit bull attack - everyone will be up in arms because it's so controversial with people fighting them and all. If they were to report about a golden retriever attacking, they wouldn't sell that many papers... people would be like "Oh that's sad. Golden's don't attack that often. That's really too bad." But when a pit attacks, everyone starts talking about how dangerous they are and how scary they are.

[Symph2001]

With me a big dog gets one chance. I'm sorry but that's it. One chance to make an impression.

When I was 12 I was mauled in the face by a german shepard mix.

I don't have anything against big dogs. In fact I'm surprised I'm not more fearful of dogs than I am. I have friends who own mastiffs, chows, huskys, boxers... BUT the minute they aggress against me or another animal I'm done, shut down, won't go near them again. it may be a one time thing but there it is. Irrational fear is irrational for a reason.

My neighbors were watching their brothers Boxer/Pit mix. I talked to them a few days ago. He was the one that I mentioned earlier in the thread and he agressed from the get go. After watching him chase down and kill the squirrl that was pretty much it for me. Since Amelia isn't much bigger. They ended up not keeping him the full 2 weeks the brohter was on vacation because after the brother said how great he was with kids and what a big teddy bear he was he went after their youngest while he was sitting on the couch watching cartoons. Luckily the father was there and nothing bad happened. The dog was practiacally asleep on the floor and then he was snarling and lunged.....

They called the brother and then kenaled him til the brother gets back.

[Ashley V]

Originally Posted by Symph2001

With me a big dog gets one chance. I'm sorry but that's it. One chance to make an impression.

When I was 12 I was mauled in the face by a german shepard mix.

I don't have anything against big dogs. In fact I'm surprised I'm not more fearful of dogs than I am. I have friends who own mastiffs, chows, huskys, boxers... BUT the minute they aggress against me or another animal I'm done, shut down, won't go near them again. it may be a one time thing but there it is. Irrational fear is irrational for a reason.

My neighbors were watching their brothers Boxer/Pit mix. I talked to them a few days ago. He was the one that I mentioned earlier in the thread and he agressed from the get go. After watching him chase down and kill the squirrl that was pretty much it for me. Since Amelia isn't much bigger. They ended up not keeping him the full 2 weeks the brohter was on vacation because after the brother said how great he was with kids and what a big teddy bear he was he went after their youngest while he was sitting on the couch watching cartoons. Luckily the father was there and nothing bad happened. The dog was practiacally asleep on the floor and then he was snarling and lunged.....

They called the brother and then kenaled him til the brother gets back.

I totally understand your fear - you were attacked. At least though, you give a dog a chance and realize that it's not an entire breed, that it's just that specific dog that is the problem.

I'm glad your neighbor's brother's dog didn't hurt anybody when he jumped up from his sleep.

[QuickSilver]

Just wanted to add my own limited experience with pit bulls....

Some good friends of mine had one in New York. They had adopted from a shelter who told them he was a vizsla, and warned them that he had been abandoned twice before.

Well, he grew up into a full-blown, emotionally damaged pit bull. I never got close enough to him to pet him. In retrospect, they should have done a lot more training with him (they did bring one trainer in early), but they were extraordinarily careful with him, and he never bit anything on two legs or four. He loved them to pieces, and died in his sleep around age 15.

The woman's brother got a female pitbull puppy, and he was a bit of a jerk. He talked about his dog could kick anyone else's dog's ass. However, he trained her extremely well, and she was the most perfectly mannered dog you can imagine.

I also had a friend whose golden retriever tore the lid off their two year old's eye. Apparently she (the human) was playing too roughly, the dog got annoyed, and snapped at her. I was quite surprised that the parents took it in stride - they got the little girl's lid re-attached of course, but they did not re-home the dog, they just told their daughter to be more respectful.

Bottom line, it is up to the owners to be aware of their dog's capabilities and make sure they are contained and controlled.

[Princes mom]

Originally Posted by Ashley V

I don't need to google "potentially dangerous dogs". I know what they are and I used to own one, and yes she was actually dangerous (towards other animals, not people), but she was controlled to the highest extent. My husband used to own several that would be considered a "dangerous breed" but they weren't.

Actually did you know that pit bulls are supposed to be excellent therapy dogs and are frequently sought after for the job?

I've worked with several of those "dangerous" dogs in rescues and believe me when I say that they aren't any more dangerous than any other dog. I've had more problems from the so called docile, gentle breeds than I have the pits, rotties, dobbies, akitas, huskys, gsd, etc.

When I was younger (like 10-11 yo), I took my dangerous Sharpei out for her nightly potty trip and I saw this dalmation that was loose and he was also known to be dangerous. I yelled for my cousin to take my dog inside before she caught sight of the other dog and then we would have had serious problems. She took my dog inside and I was alone, in the dark, with this darn pyscho dog. He started circling me. He was eyeing me and just waiting for a sudden movement from me to attack. I stood as still as I could. Thankfully, the owner came and got the dog before he attacked. About a year later, that same dog bite a girl's eye out. Do I hold anything against dalmations? No. My aunt owns one now and owned one previously and they wouldn't hurt anything. Another story - same neighborhood - I was riding my bike around the sidewalks and this woman let her unleashed lab out. The lab starts chasing me and biting at my heels, growling and mouth drooling. I rode as fast as I could and she finally called the dog off. Another story - I was petting a pomeranian and he randomly turned around and bit me. A pomeranian?! Yes, a pomeranian. Oh and my famous Chihuahua story - 6 years old. We were at an open house and I bent down with my hand extended like you are supposed to when greeting an unknown dog and I was talking softly to the dog. The little pyscho lunged at my face, I stood up and almost fell backwards into a pool. I was bitten by my ex boyfriend's cocker spaniel in the face for no apparent reason. My own yorkie has bit me!

My point is, any dog can be mean. Any dog can bite... I don't care whether they are 150 lbs or 2 lbs. I just hate when people blame an entire breed for something that could be prevented and for one dog's behavior. I also think the media plays a huge role in people's opinions of pit bulls. These reporters know that people would be interested in hearing about a pit bull attack - everyone will be up in arms because it's so controversial with people fighting them and all. If they were to report about a golden retriever attacking, they wouldn't sell that many papers... people would be like "Oh that's sad. Golden's don't attack that often. That's really too bad." But when a pit attacks, everyone starts talking about how dangerous they are and how scary they are.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm... It sounds as though dogs just don't like you.

[Ashley V]

Originally Posted by Princes mom

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm... It sounds as though dogs just don't like you.

is there a reason why you feel the need to be rude and confrontational? dogs do just fine with me.

[Britster]

Originally Posted by Princes mom

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm... It sounds as though dogs just don't like you.

Lmao, wow. I don't think I've ever seen such ignorant posts on YT.

[airstreamer]

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