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livingdustmops 03-07-2009 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by veggienut (Post 2507404)
It took me quite a few months of research, talking to people and etc before I took the plunge. If you get them from a shelter you don't know what health issues they have, what training if they had any, what damage they can do to your place of residence or how they will interact with you or your other pets you may have. So many dogs go thru the shelters and are picked up from the streets. I've talked with people whom got a dog from a shelter and within a week it died, literally. They would not replace it. I also was told that so many animals go thru the shelters and are checked by their Vet, but they have so many they can't check each pet totally.

Shelters are not and have never been a place to just buy a dog..they are in place to rescue animals from poor situations. When a person gets a dog from the shelter it should be for a cause..helping a poor animal get a second chance in life.

carlyn6884 03-07-2009 04:49 PM

shelters dont BUY puppies from puppy mills. they raid the mills to put them out of business and RESCUE the dogs that arent too sick, ect. and then put those puppies for adoption in the shelter...

Britster 03-07-2009 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by veggienut (Post 2507404)
It took me quite a few months of research, talking to people and etc before I took the plunge. If you get them from a shelter you don't know what health issues they have, what training if they had any, what damage they can do to your place of residence or how they will interact with you or your other pets you may have. So many dogs go thru the shelters and are picked up from the streets. I've talked with people whom got a dog from a shelter and within a week it died, literally. They would not replace it. I also was told that so many animals go thru the shelters and are checked by their Vet, but they have so many they can't check each pet totally.

Well that's definitely not all shelters?

The place I always go to near my house keeps their dogs in fantastic help and are SO picky with whom they adopt the animals out to! You fill out an application first and then before you're even allowed to adopt the animal out, your current pets and fam members must meet the pet as well. And they come to your house to evaluate if it's a good environment. That's a no kill shelter. They have the same routine at the Pound/animal control place I visited.

And that's the point. Most of them need rehabilitation and if no one is willing to help & try, they just get killed. So why NOT adopt a dog in need, who may yes very well have anger issues, aggression, etc. It CAN be fixed.

On the other hand, you can also find a ton of puppies in shelters who have a fresh new slate!

Britster 03-07-2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by wantayorkie23 (Post 2507271)
OK GUYS I JUST WENT TO MY HOMETOWN SHEALTER WEBSITE AND THEY HAVE ADOPT FROM PUPPY MILL. WHAT IS GOING ON AND WHY IS THIS? Atlanta Pet Rescue & Pet Adoption in Georgia – AHS

They RESCUE dogs from puppy mills. Don't buy them.

veggienut 03-07-2009 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Britster (Post 2507437)
Well that's definitely not all shelters?

The place I always go to near my house keeps their dogs in fantastic help and are SO picky with whom they adopt the animals out to! You fill out an application first and then before you're even allowed to adopt the animal out, your current pets and fam members must meet the pet as well. And they come to your house to evaluate if it's a good environment. That's a no kill shelter. They have the same routine at the Pound/animal control place I visited.

And that's the point. Most of them need rehabilitation and if no one is willing to help & try, they just get killed. So why NOT adopt a dog in need, who may yes very well have anger issues, aggression, etc. It CAN be fixed.

On the other hand, you can also find a ton of puppies in shelters who have a fresh new slate!

I forgot about those places and we do have them here as well. Check your local newspaper. At least here is where they advertise for sale of which are breeders from reputable people. That is where I found mine. Or you can go to American Kennel Club - akc.org website and find a breeder there. Most of them have show dogs for sale that don't qualify to show and they sell them from what I know. Or wait till the dog show comes to your town and talk to the breeders there and maybe they will have one for sale.

Obie 03-07-2009 05:14 PM

The Hunt Corporation is the largest supplier of puppymill puppies to pet stores with unfortunately the blessing of AKC. Nice link to do your research.

Petland and Hunte Corp. Accused of Illegal Business Practices and Selling Sick Puppies | Animal Law Coalition

wantayorkie23 03-07-2009 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by veggienut (Post 2507404)
It took me quite a few months of research, talking to people and etc before I took the plunge. If you get them from a shelter you don't know what health issues they have, what training if they had any, what damage they can do to your place of residence or how they will interact with you or your other pets you may have. So many dogs go thru the shelters and are picked up from the streets. I've talked with people whom got a dog from a shelter and within a week it died, literally. They would not replace it. I also was told that so many animals go thru the shelters and are checked by their Vet, but they have so many they can't check each pet totally.

Thats what im saying. I think just buying a puppy from a pet store or shelter you risk health issues

JeanieK 03-07-2009 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LilMissy (Post 2507014)
A point that is often made over and over and really hits home for me is...What reputable breeder would sell one of their pups to a petstore not knowing what kind of a home it will end up in? Any decent breeder screens their buyers to make sure that their pups are only going to a good home. Someone who has shipped their puppies off to a petstore DOESN'T care.

This post says it all. :thumbup:

AKC registration means nothing if the breeder is a bad breeder. It doesn't even mean that they are pure bred, it only means that the breeder claims that they are.

veggienut 03-07-2009 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wantayorkie23 (Post 2507534)
Thats what im saying. I think just buying a puppy from a pet store or shelter you risk health issues

True, but you have to also consider your time involved. What I mean is, do you have the time for a pet~? My Yorkie has been a wonderful mid-life crisis for me, but he needs a lot of attention like a child. We walked 3 hours today between visiting neighbors and talking with them. I thought the fella was worn out, nope. We played ball about an hour ago. This was a calm day. Usually it is like this from the time I get up or get home. It is a life-time committment. Some folks don't realize that and their pet goes to the shelters or somewhere~!

Britster 03-07-2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by veggienut (Post 2507553)
True, but you have to also consider your time involved. What I mean is, do you have the time for a pet~? My Yorkie has been a wonderful mid-life crisis for me, but he needs a lot of attention like a child. We walked 3 hours today between visiting neighbors and talking with them. I thought the fella was worn out, nope. We played ball about an hour ago. This was a calm day. Usually it is like this from the time I get up or get home. It is a life-time committment. Some folks don't realize that and their pet goes to the shelters or somewhere~!

Oh yeah! I don't think you TRULY realize what a commitment a dog (a pup even more) is. It's literally like having a baby. As puppies, you're waking up with them 1-3 times a night, sometimes more. Constantly changing/cleaning pee and poop. They always need your constant attention. 24/7 watching them. Going outside every hour as pups. If you leave the house, you have to make sure to be back at a certain time, if you go on vacation you have to find a dogsitter or kennel to place them in. You must take them to get all their puppy shots which cost $ and take time! Get them spayed/neutured. Whew! It's a long list of things! And I think some people just Are not cut out to be dog owners. But in the end, in my opinion, it's so worth it for the love they give you for so long and companionship!

bcrass2 03-07-2009 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Britster (Post 2507555)
Oh yeah! I don't think you TRULY realize what a commitment a dog (a pup even more) is. It's literally like having a baby. As puppies, you're waking up with them 1-3 times a night, sometimes more. Constantly changing/cleaning pee and poop. They always need your constant attention. 24/7 watching them. Going outside every hour as pups. If you leave the house, you have to make sure to be back at a certain time, if you go on vacation you have to find a dogsitter or kennel to place them in. You must take them to get all their puppy shots which cost $ and take time! Get them spayed/neutured. Whew! It's a long list of things! And I think some people just Are not cut out to be dog owners. But in the end, in my opinion, it's so worth it for the love they give you for so long and companionship!

I totally agree!!!!!!Too many people get a pup with good intentions and then cannot handle all the responsibility of having one. These end up being bred, because isn't it fun to have puppies. They get sold to Gods knows who and the cycle starts all over again.
The people who decide after a few weeks, that they are not cut out to have dogs or handle the responsibility, end up taking them to a shelter. Which fills up with these unwanted pooches.
I think there should be close screenings for dog owners. They should be able to pay for the unforseen surgeries, emergencies etc. or made to purchase pet health insurance. Spay/neutering should be mandatory except for screened breeders. Does anyone see where I'm getting at with this?
I'll get off my soap box now:rolleyes:

veggienut 03-07-2009 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Britster (Post 2507555)
Oh yeah! I don't think you TRULY realize what a commitment a dog (a pup even more) is. It's literally like having a baby. As puppies, you're waking up with them 1-3 times a night, sometimes more. Constantly changing/cleaning pee and poop. They always need your constant attention. 24/7 watching them. Going outside every hour as pups. If you leave the house, you have to make sure to be back at a certain time, if you go on vacation you have to find a dogsitter or kennel to place them in. You must take them to get all their puppy shots which cost $ and take time! Get them spayed/neutured. Whew! It's a long list of things! And I think some people just Are not cut out to be dog owners. But in the end, in my opinion, it's so worth it for the love they give you for so long and companionship!

I agree 100% with you. I had issues trying to train my fella. We were outside for 45+ minutes and he would not go potty~! This was tough to teach him to go and all the fustrations. Even used puppy pads....but it didn't work....but eventully he did catch on...and eventually went outside....but it took forever....maybe close to 9 months, I forgot.

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Originally Posted by bcrass2 (Post 2507607)
I totally agree!!!!!!Too many people get a pup with good intentions and then cannot handle all the responsibility of having one. These end up being bred, because isn't it fun to have puppies. They get sold to Gods knows who and the cycle starts all over again.
The people who decide after a few weeks, that they are not cut out to have dogs or handle the responsibility, end up taking them to a shelter. Which fills up with these unwanted pooches.
I think there should be close screenings for dog owners. They should be able to pay for the unforseen surgeries, emergencies etc. or made to purchase pet health insurance. Spay/neutering should be mandatory except for screened breeders. Does anyone see where I'm getting at with this?
I'll get off my soap box now:rolleyes:

I agree 100% with you also. I took him to puppy training in January 2008. He choked on some food and I thought he was a goner and I had to rush him to the emergency animal hospital inbetween calling and telling the teacher I wouldn't be there that first night. That bill was over $200~!

wantayorkie23 03-08-2009 07:48 AM

I think there are other ways to bring down puppy mills than to tell people not to buy from the pet stores cause that idea is not working as we see today!

livingdustmops 03-08-2009 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by wantayorkie23 (Post 2508322)
I think there are other ways to bring down puppy mills than to tell people not to buy from the pet stores cause that idea is not working as we see today!


I am interested in what your suggestions would be to help bring down puppymills.

Ladymom 03-08-2009 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by wantayorkie23 (Post 2508322)
I think there are other ways to bring down puppy mills than to tell people not to buy from the pet stores cause that idea is not working as we see today!

Can you suggest some other ways besides trying to educate people?


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