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jexxie 01-06-2009 04:54 PM
Well, Sorry that you feel that way about me. I cannot control at what age she is going to sell them at, so to me getting her to reconsider and sell them at 9 weeks is much better than six weeks. It isn't my fault she did this.

heatherm0890 01-06-2009 04:54 PM
i agree you should have some sort of contract,you just cant trust people these days,but i see no reason for you being attacked like you have been...

phfgkl 01-06-2009 04:54 PM
My breeder let me have mine early, she knew I was home 24/7, was older with no little kids, the puppy was good size, eating well, and she knew I had dealt with hypoglycemia( a maltese I got that was supposedly 8 weeks in NC, was more like 5 weeks), so, she said no problem. she was a good breeder, other than she was off on the weight, but, everyone would have been by going by the charts, plus both the parents were in the 4 lb range, the mother closer to 5 lbs. I got the throw back. She will be 6 this month, and other than being a chunky monkey and occasional reverse sneezing attacks, she's fine. If you go to shooterdog.com there are some good breeders that let theirs go at 8-10 weeks

Nancy1999 01-06-2009 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jexxie (Post 2405339)
Well, Sorry that you feel that way about me. I cannot control at what age she is going to sell them at, so to me getting her to reconsider and sell them at 9 weeks is much better than six weeks. It isn't my fault she did this.
No, but you can control who you sell them to and you can control when you sell them.

JeanieK 01-06-2009 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2405342)
My breeder let me have mine early, she knew I was home 24/7, was older with no little kids, the puppy was good size, eating well, and she knew I had dealt with hypoglycemia( a maltese I got that was supposedly 8 weeks in NC, was more like 5 weeks), so, she said no problem. she was a good breeder, other than she was off on the weight, but, everyone would have been by going by the charts, plus both the parents were in the 4 lb range, the mother closer to 5 lbs. I got the throw back. She will be 6 this month, and other than being a chunky monkey and occasional reverse sneezing attacks, she's fine. If you go to shooterdog.com there are some good breeders that let theirs go at 8-10 weeks
I read this whole thing, had to bite my fingers tio keep from replying. It didn't work, I couldn't control myself.

To the OP. What makes you think that you are so much better than this other person that makes you qualified to breed and not her?

And Just because you have dealt with hypoglycemia and have had experience and are older and no kids, that still does not make the puppy ready to be taken from it's mother at 7 weeks.

I do not understand your complaint at all :confused:

I'm not agreeing with what she is doing, nor am I saying that you are wrong, but isn't it the pot calling the kettle black?

mscat 01-06-2009 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2405342)
My breeder let me have mine early, she knew I was home 24/7, was older with no little kids, the puppy was good size, eating well, and she knew I had dealt with hypoglycemia( a maltese I got that was supposedly 8 weeks in NC, was more like 5 weeks), so, she said no problem. she was a good breeder, other than she was off on the weight, but, everyone would have been by going by the charts, plus both the parents were in the 4 lb range, the mother closer to 5 lbs. I got the throw back. She will be 6 this month, and other than being a chunky monkey and occasional reverse sneezing attacks, she's fine. If you go to shooterdog.com there are some good breeders that let theirs go at 8-10 weeks
8-10 weeks old for a yorkie puppy is way too young and not at all the reccomended standard :thumbdown I do not agree going to any internet website, to look for a breeder at all either :mad:

phfgkl 01-06-2009 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mscat (Post 2405388)
8-10 weeks old for a yorkie puppy is way too young and not at all the reccomended standard :thumbdown I do not agree going to any internet website, to look for a breeder at all either :mad:
Have you ever looked at shooterdog?
Shooterdog is very highly recommended, and they interview a lot of different breeders, maybe you should check it out.
And to the op, excuse me, I've had dogs over 50 years, and never had a problem out of any 6 week old pups I've gotten, except the one from NC that I know now wasn't even 6 weeks, as she didn't even have any teeth, therefore, couldn't eat her food. Everyone always puts people down and breeders just because of the YTCA, not everyone goes by what they say. I love getting my dogs earlier as long as they're healthy. Everyone has a right to their own opinion, believe me, there are a lot of you that voice yours, and I have a right to voice my own

heatherm0890 01-06-2009 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2405395)
Have you ever looked at shooterdog?
Shooterdog is very highly recommended, and they interview a lot of different breeders, maybe you should check it out.
And to the op, excuse me, I've had dogs over 50 years, and never had a problem out of any 6 week old pups I've gotten, except the one from NC that I know now wasn't even 6 weeks, as she didn't even have any teeth, therefore, couldn't eat her food. Everyone always puts people down and breeders just because of the YTCA, not everyone goes by what they say. I love getting my dogs earlier as long as they're healthy. Everyone has a right to their own opinion, believe me, there are a lot of you that voice yours, and I have a right to voice my own
this is so true...sometimes it isnt done in the nicest of ways either which makes me sad

mscat 01-06-2009 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2405395)
Have you ever looked at shooterdog?
Shooterdog is very highly recommended, and they interview a lot of different breeders, maybe you should check it out.
And to the op, excuse me, I've had dogs over 50 years, and never had a problem out of any 6 week old pups I've gotten, except the one from NC that I know now wasn't even 6 weeks, as she didn't even have any teeth, therefore, couldn't eat her food. Everyone always puts people down and breeders just because of the YTCA, not everyone goes by what they say. I love getting my dogs earlier as long as they're healthy. Everyone has a right to their own opinion, believe me, there are a lot of you that voice yours, and I have a right to voice my own
I feel so bad for these little puppies.... :eek: How sad . :cry: If you have had over 50 years of experience , then how come your not doing whats ideal for the Yorkie breed ? hummm ? I am done with this thread.

phfgkl 01-06-2009 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mscat (Post 2405414)
I feel so bad for these little puppies.... :eek: How sad . :cry: If you have had over 50 years of experience , then how come your not doing whats ideal for the Yorkie breed ? hummm ? I am done with this thread.
Did I say somewhere I've had yorkies 50 years? As I said, I raise my pups very well, they have a very good life. Where besides YTCA do you get your info? Everyone seems to think that everything certain people say is right, well, not everyone is right all the time. Just as "they" say crate training, that this is their den. How do people know this?? Does their dog talk to them? To me crates are cruel. I wouldn't want locked in a little tiny pen, and I don't think that dogs care for this either, they can't voice their opinions though.

mscat 01-06-2009 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2405425)
Did I say somewhere I've had yorkies 50 years? As I said, I raise my pups very well, they have a very good life. Where besides YTCA do you get your info? Everyone seems to think that everything certain people say is right, well, not everyone is right all the time. Just as "they" say crate training, that this is their den. How do people know this?? Does their dog talk to them? To me crates are cruel. I wouldn't want locked in a little tiny pen, and I don't think that dogs care for this either, they can't voice their opinions though.
No, you said dogs... I am specifically talking about the yorkie breed. What does crate training have to do with this thread :confused: btw, I have not used crates either...I was just concerned about letting a Yorkie baby go before 12 weeks old . they need time to learn socialization skills from their littermates and mother , and be so tiny they are more prone to Hypo. eposoides. This is common knowledge.

Lovetodream88 01-06-2009 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2405425)
Did I say somewhere I've had yorkies 50 years? As I said, I raise my pups very well, they have a very good life. Where besides YTCA do you get your info? Everyone seems to think that everything certain people say is right, well, not everyone is right all the time. Just as "they" say crate training, that this is their den. How do people know this?? Does their dog talk to them? To me crates are cruel. I wouldn't want locked in a little tiny pen, and I don't think that dogs care for this either, they can't voice their opinions though.
A lot of little dogs go in the create when they get scared or are tired because they do see it as there "room". Its also safer for them so the dont get into things that can hurt them!

jencar98 01-06-2009 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jexxie (Post 2405339)
Well, Sorry that you feel that way about me. I cannot control at what age she is going to sell them at, so to me getting her to reconsider and sell them at 9 weeks is much better than six weeks. It isn't my fault she did this.

I disagree with you on this point. By selling her a dog that wasn't altered you are in a way at fault.

phfgkl 01-06-2009 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mscat (Post 2405439)
No, you said dogs... I am specifically talking about the yorkie breed. What does crate training have to do with this thread :confused: btw, I have not used crates either...I was just concerned about letting a Yorkie baby go before 12 weeks old . they need time to learn socialization skills from their littermates and mother , and be so tiny they are more prone to Hypo. eposoides. This is common knowledge.
I'm trying to be nice, I understand where you're coming from. But, I'm asking where did the info come from as far as the age these pups should leave their moms? And socialization, as far as I'm concerned that's b.s as I said, the ones I've gotten at an older age have been (except for the last one) harder to housebreak, and have bitten me more than any I've ever gotten at 6 plus weeks. Also, yes, if the yorkies are weaned, eating well and are a little bigger and healthier, I also don't have a problem with them leaving at 6-8 weeks, now if they're smaller and not eating well, yeah, then I feel they need to stay a little longer, but, not so much for the so called socialization. I'm using the "crates" because so many believe in crate training, because everyone says this is the way to go. I'm saying who says it's the right thing? Dogs can't talk, so how can people say it's the best thing??

Ladymom 01-06-2009 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2405475)
I'm trying to be nice, I understand where you're coming from. But, I'm asking where did the info come from as far as the age these pups should leave their moms?
Again, from the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America's Code of Conduct:

8) All puppies leaving the breeders possession will be a minimum of twelve (12) weeks
of age to facilitate adequate socialization as well as appropriate emotional and
temperament development through interaction with siblings, dam and other dogs.


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