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lovespandp · 01-08-2009, 04:13 PM

Well we all just got back from the vet a little while ago...our little pixi had her ultrasound today and it isnt good

So baby girl basicly has

a tetralogy of fallot which is -Tetrology of Fallot is a complex combination of four congenital heart defects. The four heart defects are: Ventricular Septal Defect (VSD) ,
Pulmonary Stenosis ,Right Ventricular Hypertrophy ,Overriding Aorta

Ventricular Septal Defect (VSD)

The heart has a wall that separates the chambers on its left side from those on its right side. This wall is called a septum. The septum prevents blood from mixing between the two sides of the heart.

A VSD is a hole in the part of the septum that separates the ventricles—the lower chambers of the heart. The hole allows oxygen-rich blood to flow from the left ventricle into the right ventricle instead of flowing into the aorta, the main artery leading out to the body.

So the vet doesnt give her but 4 months at that...I am at a loss of words, we have had her for only 2 days and I feel like she has been with us this whole time. So now what. The vet said there is no chance for her, he doesnt even think we should keep her on the lasix....He said in time she will start to collaspe and have hard time catching her breath and her gums will start to turn blue. I asked him if she was in pain right now and he said no, not until she shows those symptoms. So my boyfriend and I have have made the choice of just keeping her how she is with no meds....and waiting it out until she shows those symptoms, then we will put her down. She is so playful and full of spice with my other 2 boys...she goes around and sneaks in the back of them and bits their ankles...then after that she barks at them and runs away..I hope non of you think we are bad people for keeping her alive until the time comes, but if you guys were to see her I am sure you would think the same, she doesnt act like she is sick one bit! We have to keep her inside because she cant have vax's, and we have to TRY to keep her calm...when she starts playing really hard she starts coughing...We are just going to give her the best of life... (she is getting away with EVERYTHING)
So thats that.

Fancy_Pants · 01-08-2009, 04:22 PM

My 2 yr old son was born with a VSD, so I know a little about them - I actually know a lot of medical stuff becasue my 5 yr old son has been battling cancer for the last 2 years but thats another story and website in itself.

Anyway, are they not able to close it surgically? That is so heartbreaking... She is such a doll too, I will be saying a prayer for her.

manolos mom · 01-08-2009, 04:23 PM

What a sad story but im happy she has you...i would get a second opinion. If that vet says its going to $$$$$$$ and you cant afford it then you really need to surrender her. Good luck but i know you will do the right thing for this helpless little soul....

VickiG · 01-08-2009, 04:34 PM

What a beautiful little girl she is. I think you are doing a great thing and giving this little angel the best in the time she has. You never know maybe she will surprise you. God luck to you all

lovespandp · 01-08-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by manolos mom

What a sad story but im happy she has you...i would get a second opinion. If that vet says its going to $$$$$$$ and you cant afford it then you really need to surrender her. Good luck but i know you will do the right thing for this helpless little soul....

Well today she was seen by the specialist...she doesnt just have vsd she has 7 other things wrong with her heart as well....I told him I didnt care about the money I just wanted to get her fixed and he said honestly it is out of his hands. To do sx if she even was considered for it would be risky she wouldnt even be able to handle going under. You guys dont understand my boyfriend and I tried everything we are at the end...I hope to god that there is a miracle and she can last longer than 4 months I really do

Deegan's mom · 01-08-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by manolos mom

What a sad story but im happy she has you...i would get a second opinion. If that vet says its going to $$$$$$$ and you cant afford it then you really need to surrender her. Good luck but i know you will do the right thing for this helpless little soul....

I would get a second opinion. I agree with Manolo's mom. If there is a surgery or something that they can do, but you can't afford it you should try to find a rescue for her. They might be in a better position financially to get her the care she needs. But if there's nothing that can be done for her - you giving her the best life possible is the next best option. Bless you for helping this wee one. With some hope & prayers from all us YTer's, maybe she do a 180° turn around. Fingers crossed!

chattiesmom · 01-08-2009, 05:20 PM

My heart aches for you. I have been there, done that, not with a heart condition, but lesions on the lining of the brain. Unless you have been there done that with a baby (fur or skin) who has a terminal illness that cannot be fixed -- well you just can't understand the pain. My best advice is to just love her and cherish every moment you have. About when it's time to let her go - listen to her and she will tell you.

Ladymom · 01-08-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lovespandp

Well today she was seen by the specialist...she doesnt just have vsd she has 7 other things wrong with her heart as well....I told him I didnt care about the money I just wanted to get her fixed and he said honestly it is out of his hands. To do sx if she even was considered for it would be risky she wouldnt even be able to handle going under. You guys dont understand my boyfriend and I tried everything we are at the end...I hope to god that there is a miracle and she can last longer than 4 months I really do

My heart breaks for you. Try just to treasure each and every day you have with this special girl.

Those that are suggesting surrendering her to a rescue group are the ones who don't understand. A rescue couldn't so anything more than you are plus they wouldn't take her anyway since she is unadoptable.

Such a sad story.

Yorkiekids · 01-08-2009, 05:47 PM

I don't know much about heart murmurs, but I am so sad that she has been treated so bad.

NewYorkieLover · 01-08-2009, 06:05 PM

I am so, so sorry to hear this news.

I was truly hoping for a much better update. I think it is so wonderful that you are giving this beautiful little girl the best life she can have. Yes, if you can get a second opinion, go ahead and do so. Some doctors just know so much more than others. And beyond that, I am hoping, just hoping for a miracle. Sometimes the strangest things happen, unexpected but wonderful.

Your little girl is beautiful!

She, and you guys, deserve better.

Off the topic, we just got that same little bed. We are keeping it in my son's room so Lexi has a place to lay down when she visits him.

QuickSilver · 01-08-2009, 06:24 PM

It is wonderful that you are giving her a good home. I cannot imagine how hard it must be. I join others in hoping that the vets are mistaken and that she enjoys a longer life.

lovespandp · 01-09-2009, 02:27 PM

So just an update on our pixi...She as of right now is doing GREAT!! the vet did send us home with lasix and said we can give it to her, to help and might give her a little time...those of you who know about lasix....well she is a peeing machine and not always on the pad

but bless her little heart tom and i (boyfriend) just let her do whatever she likes

we dont have the heart to punish her

the boys are getting annoyed with her poor guys, she LOVES them and LOVES to play and sometimes the boys dont want to, but thats when she gets some spice and bites the back of their ankels

they "put" up with her..they are being really good with her. I have never had a girl yorkie before its crazy how different they are from the males!!! She is a BRAT!! She trots around the house like she is the princess!! Now she tries to bite our feet when we walk around the house...Oh and I have a cute tank top shirt and a sweater for her and I swear it takes me 10 mins to get it on her!! She bites and growls and wiggles around...she does not like the fact of me dressing her, but once it is on she is ok with it

I am going to try to get some pics up of her so you guys can see how cute she is!! Until then...thank you all for your support it means a lot to me!!

Lou · 01-09-2009, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chattiesmom

My heart aches for you. I have been there, done that, not with a heart condition, but lesions on the lining of the brain. Unless you have been there done that with a baby (fur or skin) who has a terminal illness that cannot be fixed -- well you just can't understand the pain. My best advice is to just love her and cherish every moment you have. About when it's time to let her go - listen to her and she will tell you.

My heart goes out to both of you!

mscat · 01-09-2009, 03:08 PM

She is a beautiful little puppy. AND very lucky to have you and your boyfriend. Keep her and love her. Enjoy the time you have with her, and cherish every moment of her being healthy. She sounds so adorable.

Bentleys Momma · 01-09-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lovespandp

So just an update on our pixi...She as of right now is doing GREAT!! the vet did send us home with lasix and said we can give it to her, to help and might give her a little time...those of you who know about lasix....well she is a peeing machine and not always on the pad

but bless her little heart tom and i (boyfriend) just let her do whatever she likes

we dont have the heart to punish her

the boys are getting annoyed with her poor guys, she LOVES them and LOVES to play and sometimes the boys dont want to, but thats when she gets some spice and bites the back of their ankels

they "put" up with her..they are being really good with her. I have never had a girl yorkie before its crazy how different they are from the males!!! She is a BRAT!! She trots around the house like she is the princess!! Now she tries to bite our feet when we walk around the house...Oh and I have a cute tank top shirt and a sweater for her and I swear it takes me 10 mins to get it on her!! She bites and growls and wiggles around...she does not like the fact of me dressing her, but once it is on she is ok with it

I am going to try to get some pics up of her so you guys can see how cute she is!! Until then...thank you all for your support it means a lot to me!!

We will keep your pixi in our thoughts and prayers. Miracles happen every day. With all she has been through she is certainly one tough cookie and now she has received the most wonderful blessing of all... You and your boyfriend!!!.

BTW, we will also say a special little prayer for your boys. May they have patience while they are learning to love their new little sister.

Take care,

01-08-2009, 04:13 PM	#16
lovespandp ♥Momma's Bambino♥ Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ca Posts: 10,026	*sighs* Well we all just got back from the vet a little while ago...our little pixi had her ultrasound today and it isnt good So baby girl basicly has a tetralogy of fallot which is -Tetrology of Fallot is a complex combination of four congenital heart defects. The four heart defects are: Ventricular Septal Defect (VSD) , Pulmonary Stenosis ,Right Ventricular Hypertrophy ,Overriding Aorta Ventricular Septal Defect (VSD) The heart has a wall that separates the chambers on its left side from those on its right side. This wall is called a septum. The septum prevents blood from mixing between the two sides of the heart. A VSD is a hole in the part of the septum that separates the ventricles—the lower chambers of the heart. The hole allows oxygen-rich blood to flow from the left ventricle into the right ventricle instead of flowing into the aorta, the main artery leading out to the body. So the vet doesnt give her but 4 months at that...I am at a loss of words, we have had her for only 2 days and I feel like she has been with us this whole time. So now what. The vet said there is no chance for her, he doesnt even think we should keep her on the lasix....He said in time she will start to collaspe and have hard time catching her breath and her gums will start to turn blue. I asked him if she was in pain right now and he said no, not until she shows those symptoms. So my boyfriend and I have have made the choice of just keeping her how she is with no meds....and waiting it out until she shows those symptoms, then we will put her down. She is so playful and full of spice with my other 2 boys...she goes around and sneaks in the back of them and bits their ankles...then after that she barks at them and runs away..I hope non of you think we are bad people for keeping her alive until the time comes, but if you guys were to see her I am sure you would think the same, she doesnt act like she is sick one bit! We have to keep her inside because she cant have vax's, and we have to TRY to keep her calm...when she starts playing really hard she starts coughing...We are just going to give her the best of life... (she is getting away with EVERYTHING) So thats that. Attached Thumbnails __________________ "People with nothing to hide don't usually feel the need to say so."

01-08-2009, 04:22 PM	#17
Fancy_Pants YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 972	My 2 yr old son was born with a VSD, so I know a little about them - I actually know a lot of medical stuff becasue my 5 yr old son has been battling cancer for the last 2 years but thats another story and website in itself. Anyway, are they not able to close it surgically? That is so heartbreaking... She is such a doll too, I will be saying a prayer for her. Last edited by Fancy_Pants; 01-08-2009 at 04:24 PM.

01-08-2009, 05:20 PM	#22
chattiesmom Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Alabama Posts: 17,674	My heart aches for you. I have been there, done that, not with a heart condition, but lesions on the lining of the brain. Unless you have been there done that with a baby (fur or skin) who has a terminal illness that cannot be fixed -- well you just can't understand the pain. My best advice is to just love her and cherish every moment you have. About when it's time to let her go - listen to her and she will tell you. __________________ Silk Step-In Harnesses www.foxypups.etsy.com

01-08-2009, 05:47 PM	#24
Yorkiekids Piper & Sebastian Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: florida Posts: 14,495	I don't know much about heart murmurs, but I am so sad that she has been treated so bad. __________________ Susan, Piper ,Harley & Suiki

01-09-2009, 02:27 PM	#27
lovespandp ♥Momma's Bambino♥ Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ca Posts: 10,026	:) So just an update on our pixi...She as of right now is doing GREAT!! the vet did send us home with lasix and said we can give it to her, to help and might give her a little time...those of you who know about lasix....well she is a peeing machine and not always on the pad but bless her little heart tom and i (boyfriend) just let her do whatever she likes we dont have the heart to punish her the boys are getting annoyed with her poor guys, she LOVES them and LOVES to play and sometimes the boys dont want to, but thats when she gets some spice and bites the back of their ankels they "put" up with her..they are being really good with her. I have never had a girl yorkie before its crazy how different they are from the males!!! She is a BRAT!! She trots around the house like she is the princess!! Now she tries to bite our feet when we walk around the house...Oh and I have a cute tank top shirt and a sweater for her and I swear it takes me 10 mins to get it on her!! She bites and growls and wiggles around...she does not like the fact of me dressing her, but once it is on she is ok with it I am going to try to get some pics up of her so you guys can see how cute she is!! Until then...thank you all for your support it means a lot to me!! __________________ "People with nothing to hide don't usually feel the need to say so."

01-08-2009, 04:23 PM	#18
manolos mom Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 7,982	What a sad story but im happy she has you...i would get a second opinion. If that vet says its going to $$$$$$$ and you cant afford it then you really need to surrender her. Good luck but i know you will do the right thing for this helpless little soul....

01-08-2009, 04:34 PM	#19
VickiG YT Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sewell, NJ Posts: 373	What a beautiful little girl she is. I think you are doing a great thing and giving this little angel the best in the time she has. You never know maybe she will surprise you. God luck to you all

01-08-2009, 06:05 PM	#25
NewYorkieLover Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 418	I am so, so sorry to hear this news. I was truly hoping for a much better update. I think it is so wonderful that you are giving this beautiful little girl the best life she can have. Yes, if you can get a second opinion, go ahead and do so. Some doctors just know so much more than others. And beyond that, I am hoping, just hoping for a miracle. Sometimes the strangest things happen, unexpected but wonderful. Your little girl is beautiful! She, and you guys, deserve better. Off the topic, we just got that same little bed. We are keeping it in my son's room so Lexi has a place to lay down when she visits him.

01-08-2009, 06:24 PM	#26
QuickSilver Thor's Human Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,929 Blog Entries: 31	It is wonderful that you are giving her a good home. I cannot imagine how hard it must be. I join others in hoping that the vets are mistaken and that she enjoys a longer life.

01-09-2009, 03:08 PM	#29
mscat YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hanford, CA Posts: 4,895	She is a beautiful little puppy. AND very lucky to have you and your boyfriend. Keep her and love her. Enjoy the time you have with her, and cherish every moment of her being healthy. She sounds so adorable. __________________ "No matter how little money & how few possessions, you own, having a dog makes you rich."