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11-19-2008, 07:35 PM | #1 |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: hamilton, MT
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| choc. yorkie Hi, This is the first time I have posted on the web. I have been reading on the chocolate yorkie. I have been breeding yorkies for some time now and have champion stock. I have just had a litter of yorkies from a Grand Show Champion's son and a 9 champion pedigree female of the Rothby line. The female had 2 puppies and both were Chocolate. For this to happen, something had to happen to the dna. The female was bred artifical and I believe there must have been a reaction to the rubber and or plastic in the breeding. This is not a ressive gene as many think it is. What happens is the color gene is mutated. Fox and mink ranchers call this the cinnimon which in turn has developed many colors from this mutation. Hope this info helps. Wayne |
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11-19-2008, 07:44 PM | #2 |
Love my little flowers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: In Gorgeous Montana!!!
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| Hi, it's not common to run into Yorkie Breeders here in MT!! It's nice to find someone so close by!!!! What do chocolate yorkies look like? Can you post a picture? Thanks!
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11-19-2008, 07:48 PM | #3 |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: hamilton, MT
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| hi, I do not have any photos available now. Puppies are only 2 days old now. I will post some later. Thanks Wayne |
11-19-2008, 07:56 PM | #4 |
Love my little flowers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: In Gorgeous Montana!!!
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| WOW thanks for the quick response!!! That's no prob! I'll be waiting...oh yah and I almost forgot to WELCOME you TO YT!!! I'm sure you'll love it here....we all do!!!
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11-19-2008, 08:26 PM | #5 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Abilene, Texas
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| I will be watching for the pictures too! |
11-19-2008, 09:04 PM | #6 | |
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Since I joined yt, there has been much controversy about choc yorkies.. and how bad breeders are who breed them..I have seen breeders attacked on this forum for having choc yorkies... I for one appreciate the information you put here.. and to know that you have good lines proves that to me choc yorkies are not as bad as what it is made out to be.. I do not have a choc yorkie.. but I love their coloring from what I have seen.. and I would love to see pictures of those babies as they grow.. also welcome to yt... anne | |
11-19-2008, 10:42 PM | #7 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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| What exactly is a chocolate yorkie? My Dolce has a dark brown coat but the roots are steel bluish looking and he has a brown nose and green eyes |
11-19-2008, 11:19 PM | #8 |
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| Welcome Hi and welcome to YTI've not seen a chocolate yorkie before - can't wait to see pics of your little ones xxx xxx
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11-19-2008, 11:46 PM | #9 |
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| Sounds beautiful!
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11-20-2008, 08:56 AM | #10 |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: hamilton, MT
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| choc yorkie Hi everyone, I posted some info on the talk yesterday on the chocolate yorkie. This was the first time I have posted anything. I thought I needed to after reading about the chocolate yorkie in an previous forum. I would say a lot of people breeding yorkies do not understand genetics. If we only breed for the AKC standard then we have problems indeed. Some are inbreeding to get their perfect dog according to the standards causing major defects in other areas that may not be seen with the eye, bad livers, weak joints, etc. These defects are then passed on for generations. Some of the chocolate yorkies are produced from inbreeding causing the defect seen. This is a weak dog and will carry many other weaknesses if inbreeding is continued. Some chocolate yorkies are born as mine was from other things that may have caused the change in the dna. This would still be a strong and healthy dog but not to the akc standard. If two of the chocolate yorkies are bred together and then produce a dominate gene. the chocolate yorkie would be established as a new color phase of the yorkie. This yorkie would still have all of the champion genes from it ancestry as registered with akc or other registries. I am still trying to post a picture as an attachment. Wayne |
11-20-2008, 09:01 AM | #11 |
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11-20-2008, 09:07 AM | #12 |
No Longer A Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW YORK
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| I for one, not being hooked up on AKC standards, think the chocolate Yorkies are beautiful. Your annology was very interesting. You learn something new daily here on YT. Congratulations with your new litter. Someone will be very lucky to get them or are you keeping them? Welcome to YT also. |
11-20-2008, 09:20 AM | #13 |
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| I am more than curious about this being a defect in the DNA. All the research I have done explained that it was caused by a recessive gene that both parents had to carry. So I'm headed back to research . This is my little male that is now 6 weeks old.
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11-20-2008, 09:25 AM | #14 |
Peanut Gallery Mom Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland
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| First and foremost, welcome to YT! And, congratulations on the new editions!!! I happen to know first hand that notwithstanding the usual genetics defects of standards, i.e. shunts, bad knees, etc. - Chocolate yorkies are just as healthy as standards. Based on all the literature that I have read since being adopted by them (just check my photo album ) and further confirmations by my Veterinarian, only the little ones that are born blue give reason for health concerns. Wishing you the best of luck with little ones! |
11-20-2008, 09:49 AM | #15 |
YT Addict Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: rochester,ny
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| welcome to YT! pup looks precious! learn new things everyday here on yt
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