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11-20-2008, 10:14 AM | #16 |
Slave to My Rug-Rats Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Long Island
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| I for one am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO in LOVE with the Chocolate Color. I think they are absolutely, positively without a doubt some of the most beautiful dogs I have ever seen. |
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11-20-2008, 10:27 AM | #17 |
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| choc yorkie Hi, Just a follow up about the question of ressive gene and the dna. If the chocolate is bred to a standard yorkie that offspring may be the standard color but would then carry a ressive gene for the chocolate but it is not where the chocolate came from in the beginning. Wayne |
11-20-2008, 01:01 PM | #18 |
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| Welcome to YT I would love to see photos of all your yorkies!!!!!!! Even if I do get jealous
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11-20-2008, 01:08 PM | #19 | |
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11-20-2008, 01:35 PM | #20 |
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| You took the words right out of my mouth. Plastic causing a mutation of a gene? Now that's a new one. I think the more probable cause is "something" hiding somewhere in the genetics of the lines. |
11-20-2008, 10:03 PM | #21 |
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| RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!
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11-21-2008, 09:31 AM | #22 |
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| choc yorkie Hi, there are some questions arising about how plastic or rubber may have caused the mutation to Chocolate. I have studied how mutations are caused. A mutation can be caused from 2 types of radation, or chemical or virus. I know my yorkies were not exposed to radation. I am not sure if this reaction to plastic or rubber in the artifical breeding is the cause only could be. I also know my yorkies do not have ressive genes for chocolate. When I first saw the puppies I was both shocked and dumfounded to see the Chocolate color. Why would both puppies born be chocolate unless this is a true mutation caused by something and not passed down? My yorkies do not have any chocolate in their history and not inbred. Inbreeding might cause defects as the chocolate color and many other undiserable traits. If you question my opinions on this being a mutation, please give me some scientific info that I can research. A photo of Misty the female that had the chocolate puppies is attached. She has 9 champions in her pedigree of the Rothby line. She is now 7 years old. wayne |
11-21-2008, 09:41 AM | #23 |
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| She is a BEAUTY So what does artifical breeding mean? She is 7 years old now, I am not a breeder, but I thought that's a little old to be still having pups (please correct me if I am wrong?) ...My Mom's yorkie just turned 7 and I just can not picture her having pups right now (she is spayed, so it couldn't happen anyway) |
11-21-2008, 09:46 AM | #24 | |
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As for your pedigree, you have to know every breeder and every dog and what every dog in that pedigree has produced in every litter to find out where your little chocolate ones came from. I dont believe that Roberta Rothenbach has ever produced a chocolate, so I doubt very much if it came from her lines.
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11-21-2008, 09:57 AM | #25 |
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| Genetic mutation can be caused by a very wide variety of things. However, odds are better that it was genetic, rather than a shot in the dark theoretical cause. Alot of times we (as humans) go to the extreme to try to disprove something we undesireable rather than consider the obvious. Last edited by BamaFan121s; 11-21-2008 at 09:58 AM. |
11-21-2008, 09:58 AM | #26 |
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| choc yorkie hi, To answer the question, "what is artifical breeding" artifical breeding is taking the sperm from a diserable male and injecting it into the female in her heat cycle by the use of a rubber tube and plastic syringe. Also Misty is now spayed because of her age. Some breeders stop at 8 years. wayne |
11-21-2008, 10:10 AM | #27 | |
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She is a beauty and I know that in the AKC breeding world, chocolate is undesired, but I think they are absolutely stunning and just as precious as the 'accepted color' | |
11-21-2008, 10:27 AM | #28 | |
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11-21-2008, 11:55 AM | #29 | |
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Also, the sperm is not in the tube long enough for a mutation to occure.
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11-21-2008, 03:24 PM | #30 |
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| I have a chocolate yorkie 16lb boy. His parents are 5-7lb standard color yorkies. 2 of the 6 were born chocolate. His sister was noticeability smaller in size at 9 weeks old. At the age of 9 months Chunk was diagnosed with retina degeneration and is now totally blind. I know this is where God wants Chunk to be. He has brought us so much happiness and he gets around just fine in our home and trailer. We have 2 other dogs who the Dr. say are his guide dogs. I advised the breeder of Chunk's condition and advised her that his parents are carriers of this defective gene that causes blindness. I can't believe she hadn't been informed of this before. I also don't like the fact that that she is to this day selling the litters at $950 for a male chocolate yorkie. Last year we paid $700 for Chunk I doubt that she is telling her customers that blindness might be possible. Her name is Robbie Harris from La Habra Heights, CA. We have now regrets about Chunk but not anyone would feel this way especially after paying this much money. A righteous man regards the life of his animal..... Proverbs 12:10 |
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