Originally Posted by chachi (Post 2218408)

Well if thats true arent you doing the same thing

Originally Posted by chachi (Post 2218408)

Well if thats true arent you doing the same thing

Originally Posted by avasmama75 (Post 2218430)

Yes, i sort of am because i was under the impression that drama was what this thread was all about. Unfortunatly its hard to have a civil mature discussion without people getting huffy and puffy and making not so nice comments about mixed dogs, designer dogs , mutts, whatever they want to be called. It was sort of my way of saying"if you cant beat them join them" immature, i know. But the truth. :happyboun:sidesplt::woof:
PS: I apoligise for making the comment i made, we are all to blame for getting protective of our babies.
That said, thanks for putting me in my place chachi:thankyou2

Originally Posted by chachi (Post 2218445)

I really dont think anyone has anything against anyone that owns a mixed breed I know I dont I think alot of them are cute like morkies. They just dont like people breeding them calling them designer dogs and then asking for alot of money for them when there are mixed breeds in shelters being put to death. Some people are just very passionate about that

Originally Posted by avasmama75 (Post 2218430)

PS: I apoligise for making the comment i made, we are all to blame for getting protective of our babies.

Originally Posted by ButterflyKisses (Post 2218474)

Woogie Man,
I know :D that the "black" coloring doesn't come from the Maltese but for some reason when I breed my little Yorkie sire that tends to have the "Morkie look" that I prefer , to this one little mom, I get more "black" puppies. So there is something about the combination of this particular Maltese and Yorkie that seems to take this " black coloring" more so - then the combination of this sire with a few of my other Maltese moms. These little black babies have been beautiful, averaging around 5 lbs and having very nice little baby doll faces, and I have found great homes for them, but they are not what I am wanting, personally. I could probably try a different male to see if this mom will have more black puppies with a different male - but I really don't want to do that - she has very nice purebred Maltese, so I don't want to just continue to breed a mom that I don't think will have the looks I am trying for - even though I'm sure it would be very interesting to see what would happen.




As far as the mixing of the purebred dogs getting the health problems of each of the breeds. The vast majority of the genetic / congenital problems you have listed are "recessive" genes. You have to have two "recessive" genes for the puppy to have this problem. Breeding the purebred dog makes it much more likely to have these problems in a puppy. The most perfect of the dogs was the first dog that had all the genes - which is the wolf - but the continual decreasing of the genes to get our little (or big) purebred dogs, we have caused these problems that each breed is now known for. That is why you have to be sooooo careful breeding purebred dogs - they are prone to more problems. We all know that each bread - as was shown in the previous post - has their own set of problems. I am afraid we will have even more of these "Yorkie problems" as people are continuing to reduce the gene pool even more by trying to make the Yorkies even smaller. But, when you breed the two different breeds together, you increase the gene pool and the lower the chances that you will have the recessive gene in the hybrid that causes the problem in the purebred dog. Of course this will not guarantee 100% that you will not have the problem, but it does reduce the chance for the genetic / congenital problem. For those who do decide to raise the hybrid dogs, they can work to continue to reduce the probability of "purebred related health problems" while still being able to have a dog that you can know some of the temperament. It would be silly to think this is true (knowing the personality) when breeding just any two purebred dogs, but the Yorkies and the Maltese have some very similar traits and seem to be more predictable in the outcome. Of course there is always the puppy that will not conform:rolleyes: whether purebred or not.:aimeeyork

I'm not encouraging anyone to breed hybrid puppies - Anyone that gets either a purebred or a hybrid just needs to do their research to make sure they get the right puppy / dog for their family.

As far as the "nasty" e-mail sent to me - I did not answer her by e-mail. I decided I would answer here instead. I continue to hope that we can discuss and even disagree without ugliness. We are all different and it is good we have opinions. We can learn from those that both agree and that disagree with us. :thumbup:

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2217918)

This is where there is "lack of clarification." IMO, well-planned is no merely 'using your favorite breeds that are healthy pets and big enough and old enough to physically produce puppies.' This is not sufficient or responsible enough reasoning to center a breeing program around. And this more of a general observation, not really just based on your statements. :) And also, just a difference of opinion as well, I'm sure.

Originally Posted by avasmama75 (Post 2218399)

This is probably a stupid question, but, how would one go about checking a breeders reference:confused:

Originally Posted by Odie in London (Post 2217960)

Yes I know I have a guard/lap yorkie too. When we are alone he will bark his face off if there is a fly on the wall..lol But in all honesty, I couldn't imagine breeding a yorkie with a doberman that just isn't right:eek:

Originally Posted by cesar49 (Post 2219359)

a yorkie and a doberman.. is that a dorkie?:)
as much as my love my mixes.. it is a bit out of hand with so many different types..:eek:
i am rethinking my breeding plans for the future..
keeping the yorkie purebred is definitely better than mixing
with different breeds..
i am allowed to change my mind.. :rolleyes:and try to better the breed
i will be revising my breeding program in the future..
but a 3 year plan is already in progress..:p
yorkipoo and morkipoo puppies will still be
part of the plan for a while..:eek:
but i would like to only breed purebred yorkies down the road
i guess there are 2 sides to every debate
and some can be swayed to the other side
i do not want to breed UNWANTED puppies..
purebred healthy yorkies will always be in demand
although i think it is the larger breed mixes that are really being abandoned in shelters
the appeal of small mixed dogs is very high
but the small purebreeds are definitely more respected
in general...
people who mix dogs are usually disrespected by the general public
but , then again , life is not always fair.
the majority rules.. i guess
breeding dogs is a big responsibilty and i only hope
i dont make too many more mistakes:animal-pa

Originally Posted by ButterflyKisses (Post 2217435)

I received this e-mail this morning. Since this thread is on "designer dogs" I thought some of you might find this interesting:

Hello "Breeder" LOL!
I despise those who breed purebred and create mutts and then have the gall to sell them!!!! Then, I despise those who buy these mutts, which is supporting those creeps to just breed MORE mutts! Peek-a-poo, cock-a-poo, puggles, ect, are NOT purebred and others like this, are just mutts! There are MILLIONS of mutts, give a TRUE homeless mutt a home! Do not support these creeps!
I despise puppy-kitten mills and this, with all of my heart.
There REALLY ought to be a law against so called creeps that claim to be "breeders", from doing this. They are disgusting.
JMO..............

This person seems to despise (hate?) those of us that breed for the Yorkie mix puppies and also she despises (hates?) those who decide that a certain "hybrid" puppy is right for their family. I would be interested to hear how you feel here in this link concerning this e-mail. I agree with hating the way some people raise puppies - but I will not hate the person - bitterness in the heart towards other people only ends up poisoning the spirit and the health of the person who does the hating. I personally think it is very sad. I am not angry at this person, but instead I always feel sorry for someone with this type of hatred in their hearts.