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Old 09-18-2008, 04:52 AM   #136
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Gwen you know I Love you girl!! You have the Same Passion and Love for breeding as I do and I for one think that is what breeding is all about.
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Old 09-18-2008, 05:01 AM   #138
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Would you like me to stand in line for food stamps or be an honest breeder. I am a good person who spends her time at home and i do love what i do. I do have the correct amount of space for my dogs to play and have fun. I have an akc inspector who comes to my home once a year and i always pass inspection that includes my facility, health of my dogs , and also my litter book records. What club are you with ? ..............................gwen
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I think there are two clear "groups" of people here: The side that values the traditional, standard Yorkies, wants to see it preserved and supports the YTCA's stance and efforts to do that.....and the side that doesn't.
Then there are people in that gray, middle area who don't neccessarily condemn breeding off-colored Yorkies, but condemn anyone doing it unethically--and that goes for ANY Yorkie/dog, regardless of color.


If people don't agree with another's practices, whatever they are, or see things that they or many others feel as "questionable" they have a right to their own opinion, plain and simple.

If people are of the opinion that only traditional colored Yorkies should be bred, then obviously if you are breeding anything else, they are going to disapprove. It's not because people are uneducated on the breed, or fearing competition in sales (HA!) or any of the other ridiculous claims that have been made--it's because that is simply the way they FEEL and what they believe.

In regards to people 'speaking about a breeder they do not know'-- There are many aspects of a breeding program that the majority of Yorkie enthusiast, both on YT and off, have come to recognize as "red flags" that others are warned against with ANY breeder. When identified, others are 'warned' regarding these indicators--as something you would definately want clarification on from the breeder. Some my pan out as having a good explanations, some may not but they are definately things you would want to be aware of. And some may just be because it's a practice not agreed with. You don't have to "know" a person to see what is written by THEM in black and white in front of your face, on their own site.

Bottom line is, there are alot of these "red flags" on the site currently in question. (Gwen's site, Steppin' in Style) I don't think it was JUST the practice of breeding non-standard colored dogs that concerned people. The OP had every right in starting this thread! They found a site, had questions about it and asked for opinions.

In the end, it's up to people as individuals to decide how they feel about any breeder and his/her practices. But if someone here or elsewhere feels like there is something that IN THEIR OPINION is questionable, they have a right to point it out. And many people who don't know what to look for in a "good breeder" appreciate and come here specifically for that information.

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I think there are two clear "groups" of people here: The side that values the traditional, standard Yorkies, wants to see it preserved and supports the YTCA's stance and efforts to do that.....and the side that doesn't.
Then there are people in that gray, middle area who don't neccessarily condemn breeding off-colored Yorkies, but condemn anyone doing it unethically--and that goes for ANY Yorkie/dog, regardless of color.


If people don't agree with another's practices, whatever they are, or see things that they or many others feel as "questionable" they have a right to their own opinion, plain and simple.

If people are of the opinion that only traditional colored Yorkies should be bred, then obviously if you are breeding anything else, they are going to disapprove. It's not because people are uneducated on the breed, or fearing competition in sales (HA!) or any of the other ridiculous claims that have been made--it's because that is simply the way they FEEL and what they believe.

In regards to people 'speaking about a breeder they do not know'-- There are many aspects of a breeding program that the majority of Yorkie enthusiast, both on YT and off, have come to recognize as "red flags" that others are warned against with ANY breeder. When identified, others are 'warned' regarding these indicators--as something you would definately want clarification on from the breeder. Some my pan out as having a good explanations, some may not but they are definately things you would want to be aware of. And some may just be because it's a practice not agreed with. You don't have to "know" a person to see what is written by THEM in black and white in front of your face, on their own site.

Bottom line is, there are alot of these "red flags" on the site currently in question. (Gwen's site, Steppin' in Style) I don't think it was JUST the practice of breeding non-standard colored dogs that concerned people. The OP had every right in starting this thread! They found a site, had questions about it and asked for opinions.

In the end, it's up to people as individuals to decide how they feel about any breeder and his/her practices. But if someone here or elsewhere feels like there is something that IN THEIR OPINION is questionable, they have a right to point it out. And many people who don't know what to look for in a "good breeder" appreciate and come here specifically for that information.
An excellent way to explain it.

I fall into the gray area...I like the parti's, however my expections of a breeder or their breeding program remains the same.
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Wow did you see the prices of those partis? You can get a biewer for that price maybe even less. I am sorry If I had a choice of a biewer or a parti I would pick biewer.
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I think there are two clear "groups" of people here: The side that values the traditional, standard Yorkies, wants to see it preserved and supports the YTCA's stance and efforts to do that.....and the side that doesn't.
Then there are people in that gray, middle area who don't neccessarily condemn breeding off-colored Yorkies, but condemn anyone doing it unethically--and that goes for ANY Yorkie/dog, regardless of color.


If people don't agree with another's practices, whatever they are, or see things that they or many others feel as "questionable" they have a right to their own opinion, plain and simple.

If people are of the opinion that only traditional colored Yorkies should be bred, then obviously if you are breeding anything else, they are going to disapprove. It's not because people are uneducated on the breed, or fearing competition in sales (HA!) or any of the other ridiculous claims that have been made--it's because that is simply the way they FEEL and what they believe.

In regards to people 'speaking about a breeder they do not know'-- There are many aspects of a breeding program that the majority of Yorkie enthusiast, both on YT and off, have come to recognize as "red flags" that others are warned against with ANY breeder. When identified, others are 'warned' regarding these indicators--as something you would definately want clarification on from the breeder. Some my pan out as having a good explanations, some may not but they are definately things you would want to be aware of. And some may just be because it's a practice not agreed with. You don't have to "know" a person to see what is written by THEM in black and white in front of your face, on their own site.

Bottom line is, there are alot of these "red flags" on the site currently in question. (Gwen's site, Steppin' in Style) I don't think it was JUST the practice of breeding non-standard colored dogs that concerned people. The OP had every right in starting this thread! They found a site, had questions about it and asked for opinions.

In the end, it's up to people as individuals to decide how they feel about any breeder and his/her practices. But if someone here or elsewhere feels like there is something that IN THEIR OPINION is questionable, they have a right to point it out. And many people who don't know what to look for in a "good breeder" appreciate and come here specifically for that information.
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Old 09-18-2008, 06:25 AM   #143
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I do not mind people asking question but i do have a problem with people who pass judgement and who are rude and ugly .i did not know about this site and i really do not like it.it is very hard not to stand up for who you are and what you believe in. I love my yorkies as much as any person could love yorkies. All my time is spend in caring for them they deserve nothing but the best........................gwen
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I do not mind people asking question but i do have a problem with people who pass judgement and who are rude and ugly .i did not know about this site and i really do not like it.
No one was "passing judgement" on you. People did however discuss aspects of your program that YOU made available on your site that they deemed as questionable--there were several. As far as not liking this site...that's a choice you are making. It is very unfortunate that you feel that way--clearly many people love it and many have made great friends here.

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Wow did you see the prices of those partis? You can get a biewer for that price maybe even less. I am sorry If I had a choice of a biewer or a parti I would pick biewer.
You know I agree with you even though I breed Akc Parti Yorkies. Biewers are Beauitful dogs and they are cheaper and I even thought about breeding them before I started breeding the Parti Yorkies 2 years ago. I felt that I would have people talk about me thinking my dogs were not good, not purebreed. So I paid more money for the AKC Partis because I thought many would be more accepted since AKC will register them. AKC Parti are so much more Because they are AKC. They Standard Yorkie Breeders just don't like the Parti colored dogs period. Which is fine with me.
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AKC Parti are so much more Because they are AKC.
Not true. They are more because many people charge more for them to meet supply and demand of something "different." If it was AKC registration alone that determined the price, then the partis would be the same price as the standard dogs.

As far as not wanting people to question if they were pure bred in comparison to the Biewers...that still happens anyway...people question them both.
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You know I agree with you even though I breed Akc Parti Yorkies. Biewers are Beauitful dogs and they are cheaper and I even thought about breeding them before I started breeding the Parti Yorkies 2 years ago. I felt that I would have people talk about me thinking my dogs were not good, not purebreed. So I paid more money for the AKC Partis because I thought many would be more accepted since AKC will register them. AKC Parti are so much more Because they are AKC. They Standard Yorkie Breeders just don't like the Parti colored dogs period. Which is fine with me.
I can see why you did if you wanted them AKC registered. I was really surprised by that pricing since it seems biewers are more established than partis
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I can see why you did if you wanted them AKC registered. I was really surprised by that pricing since it seems biewers are more established than partis
Think about it...why would an AKC registered Parti be more than a Biewer? Not because they are AKC registered. If that was the case, then standard colored AKC Yorkies would be more too. Being AKC registered has nothing to do with the cost...not like it is being claimed to anyway.
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I found this website:
Yorkie puppies for sale,Parti Yorkies,Chocolate, Golden Yorkie Pups and Dogs for sale.



They advertise selling specially coloured yorkies. Doesn't this seem like a ripoff? Can't people just be happy with the perfect little babies that occur in nature instead of messing with genetics and causing a nightmare for future generations of pups?


It seems like this place only wants to make money, not breed quality babies that will go to a good home.
I don't know, it makes me think of something Paris Hilton would google if she was looking for another fashion accesory dog to dump off when she got tired of it.



I'm upset now.
ok Let ALL GET REAL HERE!!! ASKING QUESTIONS IS ASKING QUESTIONS. ATTACKING someone and bashing them is another thing. If you think this is a nice and ok comment or post about someone than you are WRONG!!!! Calling someone ripoff or saying they have bad quality dogs and saying that they are not going to good home? HELLO ANYONE OUT THERE!! How would they know they are not going to quality homes? I OWN ONE OF HER DOGS!! I would think I have a good quality home. THESE are statements that are FICTION!!!
Oh and by the way I didn't know you meet Paris Hilton!!! Well you 2 must be BEST friends to know her so well to even talk trash about her!!! LMAO!!!
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Think about it...why would an AKC registered Parti be more than a Biewer? Not because they are AKC registered. If that was the case, then standard colored AKC Yorkies would be more too. Being AKC registered has nothing to do with the cost...not like it is being claimed to anyway.
I know the pricing is probably more because they are selling them as rare. Ive never priced partis before and was surprised by the higher price.
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