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freshie · 07-24-2008, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sammiz

Well....I don't have a problem posting her web site. You are right, and it is so obvious that the images have been altered. Why, they all have the very same bow in their hair, a lot of them have the same mouth. These images are so overworked it is unbelievable to me that she would post them like that.

I found this website by googling the breeders name, which I got from the news report. You can find it here:

Raffinan Kennels breeding Maltese Moms

Wow that isn't even a good photo shop job! It looks like someone drew those pics and slapped different mouthes on them. Unreal

red98vett · 07-24-2008, 03:28 AM

This says it ALL. (BELOW)

What a sick coldhearted person to let dogs 'exist' like this.

that woman should never be allowed to have another dog in her possession.

Where do I sign ?

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Living in filthy and deplorable conditions, the dogs were crowded and forced to live in rooms with little ventilation where the stench of urine and feces made your eyes tear and your nose burn. Upon stepping through the sliding door that led to the most offensive area, your gag reflex immediately took over.

As we entered, the dogs, which counted six to eight per cage, barked wildly. In every cage, at least one submissive dog shook nervously in the corner, clearly the omega of the group. Unchecked by humans and left to defend itself, it existed at the mercy of the dog pack within their caged confines.

A backdoor led outside to kennel runs. Dirty and undisturbed with weeds and leaves, it was an obvious sign the dogs were deprived of exercise and fresh air. A short time later, this was confirmed by Hughes, as she admitted to not allowing the dogs out of their cages for “at least the past four months,” proof they had spent endless days walking only on wire-bottom cages. These dogs had to be immediately removed from these horrendous conditions, no question about it.

FL Tink · 07-24-2008, 03:53 AM

Here are 2 local news reports in FL. I was shocked
Tampabays10.com | Tampa, St. Petersburg, Clearwater |
Tampabays10.com | Tampa, St. Petersburg, Clearwater |

The judge should be forced to visit the lady weekly. What an idiot.

The husband was interviewed and said Of course she is going to continue to breed the dogs...that is her livlihood!!!!

How sad for these dogs
One of these reports profiles a rescued yorkie. he had never seen grass before

Mom to Hot Rod · 07-24-2008, 04:02 AM

I just left my comments and asked to be contacted if there is a petition started. I just hope these poor dogs can be saved in time.

ScootieBootie · 07-24-2008, 04:20 AM

I'm a loss for words. I can't understand this AT all....She gets 60 of the healthy animals back...

It's so horrible. I just looked at the photos and I'm sick...just sick...

I'd really like to walk up and punch her in her face...and then some...I think she should get a good ol' country butt whoopin'.

I think she should have to reimburse the rescue. I know in some places if there is proof that someone provided the vet care, and paid for it, the dogs are legally theirs. Is this true down there? If so...then the rescue "legally" would own the dogs, because they provided and paid for the vet care.

Can someone look into this?

jfalz73 · 07-24-2008, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mom to Hot Rod

I just left my comments and asked to be contacted if there is a petition started. I just hope these poor dogs can be saved in time.

me too! This is so unbelievable....

YorkieRose · 07-24-2008, 04:32 AM

This has happened numerous times...remember the Tennessee breeder who had 500 or so dogs..well, she was raided 10 yrs prior and the dogs were given back because Animal Control did not seige the dogs legally. Hopefully, they did it legally this time...
AC and the counties have got to get their act together and do everything legal and right..then these millers will have to recourse and will lose their cases.
It is the same as a murderer going free because the police forgot to read them their rights..it is a horrible situation..we know these are guilty people, their victims suffered, but the law is the law..no matter what the evidence..do it right or don't bother...I feel awful for these poor dogs, they were rescued from Hell and now must go back...!

pagonzal · 07-24-2008, 04:44 AM

So dishearntening! I'd sign a petition. Has anyone thought about contacting Oprah? I know she is very involved with the puppy mill issue.

Pam

chachi · 07-24-2008, 04:46 AM

I am very saddened. What can we do?

YorkieRose · 07-24-2008, 04:49 AM

I looked at her web site...these dogs do not look real!...under her contact info it says CKC registered...at least if they were AKC she would have been inspected, not saying they would seige her dogs, because they can not, but they would have provided evidence for the AC...and I thought Dade county had a 4 dog limit. I know Florida has a law all dogs must be seen by a vet and get a health certificate before a sale...

MyPeanutAbbyGra · 07-24-2008, 05:14 AM

I left a comment on the rescue site and also tried to leave a comment on the article, but when I hit submit it was lost

I can't believe a judge would return 60 dogs to her! This is insane! How could he look at the pictures from the seizure of these babies and not feel compassion for them? He just sentenced them to a life of hell.

hviola · 07-24-2008, 05:22 AM

Those pictures are awful, and no, they dont look real. Those pictures have totally been altered. A lot of the pictures look like the same pictures, but just altered differently.

YorkieRose · 07-24-2008, 05:51 AM

Would any of you buy from this breeder after looking at her web site? ...I would expect to get a toy stuff dog, not a real one...does anyone feel the buyer has a big part in keeping this breeder in business...?? Just thinking out loud.

yorkie mom-3 · 07-24-2008, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by red98vett

This says it ALL. (BELOW)

What a sick coldhearted person to let dogs 'exist' like this.

that woman should never be allowed to have another dog in her possession.

Where do I sign ?

I totally agree!!!! Being the Mom to an ex-mill yorkie it angers me more than you can know. OK maybe the law is the law but I think the judge needs to go out there and stay awhile, see how it feels. I have no mercy for these so called people who do this torture. I better quit before I go on a rant.

yorkieisme · 07-24-2008, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by FL Tink

Here are 2 local news reports in FL. I was shocked
Tampabays10.com | Tampa, St. Petersburg, Clearwater |
Tampabays10.com | Tampa, St. Petersburg, Clearwater |

The judge should be forced to visit the lady weekly. What an idiot.

The husband was interviewed and said Of course she is going to continue to breed the dogs...that is her livlihood!!!!

How sad for these dogs
One of these reports profiles a rescued yorkie. he had never seen grass before

I just watched the video and I heard that one of the yorkie's tails were cut off to make it easier to breed. Is this true? I saw some have tails by other members but some didn't. I'm confused on this matter.

This Judge needs to be in a cage with 8 other people for 4 months and then come back and make a sound decision.

07-24-2008, 03:53 AM	#18
FL Tink No Longer a Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Riverview, Florida Posts: 4,953	Here are 2 local news reports in FL. I was shocked Tampabays10.com \| Tampa, St. Petersburg, Clearwater \| Tampabays10.com \| Tampa, St. Petersburg, Clearwater \| The judge should be forced to visit the lady weekly. What an idiot. The husband was interviewed and said Of course she is going to continue to breed the dogs...that is her livlihood!!!! How sad for these dogs One of these reports profiles a rescued yorkie. he had never seen grass before Last edited by FL Tink; 07-24-2008 at 03:54 AM.

07-24-2008, 04:02 AM	#19
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07-24-2008, 04:32 AM	#22
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	The Law! This has happened numerous times...remember the Tennessee breeder who had 500 or so dogs..well, she was raided 10 yrs prior and the dogs were given back because Animal Control did not seige the dogs legally. Hopefully, they did it legally this time... AC and the counties have got to get their act together and do everything legal and right..then these millers will have to recourse and will lose their cases. It is the same as a murderer going free because the police forgot to read them their rights..it is a horrible situation..we know these are guilty people, their victims suffered, but the law is the law..no matter what the evidence..do it right or don't bother...I feel awful for these poor dogs, they were rescued from Hell and now must go back...!

07-24-2008, 04:46 AM	#24
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 37,147	I am very saddened. What can we do? __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

07-24-2008, 04:49 AM	#25
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	site I looked at her web site...these dogs do not look real!...under her contact info it says CKC registered...at least if they were AKC she would have been inspected, not saying they would seige her dogs, because they can not, but they would have provided evidence for the AC...and I thought Dade county had a 4 dog limit. I know Florida has a law all dogs must be seen by a vet and get a health certificate before a sale...

07-24-2008, 04:20 AM	#20
ScootieBootie Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2008 Location: NC Posts: 285	I'm a loss for words. I can't understand this AT all....She gets 60 of the healthy animals back... It's so horrible. I just looked at the photos and I'm sick...just sick... I'd really like to walk up and punch her in her face...and then some...I think she should get a good ol' country butt whoopin'. I think she should have to reimburse the rescue. I know in some places if there is proof that someone provided the vet care, and paid for it, the dogs are legally theirs. Is this true down there? If so...then the rescue "legally" would own the dogs, because they provided and paid for the vet care. Can someone look into this?

07-24-2008, 04:44 AM	#23
pagonzal YT Addict Join Date: May 2008 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 438	So dishearntening! I'd sign a petition. Has anyone thought about contacting Oprah? I know she is very involved with the puppy mill issue. Pam

07-24-2008, 05:14 AM	#26
MyPeanutAbbyGra I love my baby girls! Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,718	I left a comment on the rescue site and also tried to leave a comment on the article, but when I hit submit it was lost I can't believe a judge would return 60 dogs to her! This is insane! How could he look at the pictures from the seizure of these babies and not feel compassion for them? He just sentenced them to a life of hell. __________________ Tammy, Mama to Abby Grace Daisy Mae RIP Peanut & Chloe, ABBY 's WINSTON Within the heart of every stray Lies the singular desire to be loved

07-24-2008, 05:22 AM	#27
hviola YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Casey, IL Posts: 1,175	Those pictures are awful, and no, they dont look real. Those pictures have totally been altered. A lot of the pictures look like the same pictures, but just altered differently. __________________ Heather, mommy to Drake (7 yr old son), Triss (yorkie), spike (dachshund), ash and misty (my cats), and a baby on the way due Oct 1st!

07-24-2008, 05:51 AM	#28
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	site Would any of you buy from this breeder after looking at her web site? ...I would expect to get a toy stuff dog, not a real one...does anyone feel the buyer has a big part in keeping this breeder in business...?? Just thinking out loud.