Out of Curiosity, How Popular is Docking? - Page 2 - YorkieTalk.com Forums

Meggie · 06-01-2008, 11:20 PM

Since April 6th last year, 2007, it has been illegal to dock any puppy in the UK.
It is a prosecutable offence.
The Kennel Club has also banned entry to shows for any docked dog born since that date.

So my older two are docked, as previously the breeder could choose and most show dogs were docked, but my youngest one is undocked.

kinnykins · 06-02-2008, 12:39 AM

i live in the canary islands and they still dock here, kinny still has her dew claws though, can we see a pic of an un docked tail anyone ?? just curious as to what it looks like ??

hollywillis · 06-02-2008, 12:59 AM

I am in the UK, my 2 yorkies have their tails, my first yorkie which I had as a teenager was docked, I personally prefer them with their tails, and I am glad it is now an offence here to dock their tails, My belief is if they are born with a tail, they were meant to keep their tails.

YorkieRose · 06-02-2008, 02:05 AM

I am very opposed to docking done by cutting and stitching..it is painful and stresses the puppy and mom.. Using a clamp is quick and bloodless...they barely cry and infection is extremely rare. Vets can make many things far more simple if they want...but as one once told me.."if I do not cut/stitch, then I can not call it a surgical procedure"...

nydia · 06-02-2008, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985

I bet by now I'm getting annoying with all my questions, but I can't help being curious!!
What exactly is tail docking and what purpose does it serve? Is it purely cosmetic?
How many people here have a yorkie with a docked tail and how many have a "normal" tail?
Thanks for sharing!

It is purely cosmetic there is no purpose, the purpose of having the tail is for balance when running or jumping. God gave them a tail for a reason. I for one do not believe in tail docking for any breed including pit bulls and rottweilers. I see it this way, we all have two arms and two legs that god gave us for a reason, just like he gave a dog has a tail, you wouldn't want anyone cutting off your leg, or your arm. If you want to show your dog in the Eukanuba or AKC championship then the tail must be docked but there are plenty of other competitions that do not require that if your interested in entering your pup in a show. I guess it all depends on the owner of the dog, only two of my babies have their tails docked and that is because they were already docked before they came to me, if I had known when they first were born that the breeder was going to dock the tails I would have told her not to.

nydia · 06-02-2008, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kinnykins

i live in the canary islands and they still dock here, kinny still has her dew claws though, can we see a pic of an un docked tail anyone ?? just curious as to what it looks like ??

Attached is a picture of Lucy's tail

nikkinack · 06-02-2008, 10:06 AM

When I got a puppy if I could choose I would not get its tail docked, I think they are cute with it and I think it should be illegal here two.

Mayas Mommy · 06-02-2008, 10:35 AM

OVER HERE IN GERMANY YOU CAN'T DOCK THE TAIL ... THEY SAY IT IS 'INHUMAN' (I HOPE i SPELLED THAT RIGHT) ... SO MAYA HAS A TAIL ... AND WE LOVE IT ... SHE LOOKS SOOO CUTE WITH IT ....

kinnykins · 06-02-2008, 12:39 PM

thanks for the piccy Nydia, does nt lucy look great !!!

hollywillis · 06-02-2008, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mayas Mommy

OVER HERE IN GERMANY YOU CAN'T DOCK THE TAIL ... THEY SAY IT IS 'INHUMAN' (I HOPE i SPELLED THAT RIGHT) ... SO MAYA HAS A TAIL ... AND WE LOVE IT ... SHE LOOKS SOOO CUTE WITH IT ....

hey (sorry to hijack this thread) where abouts in germany are you? I lived in Gutersloh for 3 years 1999-2002,my husband is in the army, we are back in the uk now, I absolutly loved Germany, and really miss the great living over there, proper winters with loads of snow, proper summers, sitting out all evening enjoying the evening weather (not like england at 6pm it gets chilly and everyone has to go in LOL) what a lovely country you have x Miss it

Wight Witch · 06-02-2008, 12:50 PM

Tink with her tail! .......and her floppy ears! (which we love)

I love playing with it, it wraps around my fingers like little snake!

Wight Witch · 06-02-2008, 12:51 PM

oooopssssssssss helps to add photo!

kezza · 06-02-2008, 01:08 PM

Thankfully this procedure is now banned here in the U.K.

My Pixie has her full tail which she uses to express herself..she wags it constantly and carries it high over her back when out strutting her stuff..a sign of confidence...she also has brilliant balance and can dance extremely well on her back legs.
I have read alot recently about tail docking and in my opinion the Puppies do feel it..their squeals become more high pitched during the procedure and some puppies even urinate...a sign of pain & shock..people say that they suckle and go straight to sleep afterwards..maybe they do..but this is usually a way of comforting themselves and conserving energy..a way of dealing with the pain and the shock..doesn't mean they are happy and contented and not at all bothered by the whole thing as some seem to suggest...I can recall threads on here where members were disgusted by yorkie ear piercing...but these same people are willing to have their babies tails cut off...I find this hard to understand..we all spend almost every waking hour making sure our precious babies never come to any harm..but are willing to put them through this all in the name of fashion

..what makes them more pleasing to OUR eye...they give us so much love and joy..how can we be so selfish?

DvlshAngel985 · 06-02-2008, 01:24 PM

Thanks to all that have posted to this thread, I never thought this topic was as heated as it is. When I started this thread I wasn't sure what docking was and why it was done. THANKS again! I've learned a lot from this thread.
To mypreciouspups, I'm so very sorry you had a bad experience.
Thanks to nydia and Wight Witch for sharing pictures of their beautiful "natural" puppies!
Tink is so cute! I love the coloring of her coat I think she's gorgeous! I hope to some day have a puppy as cute as yours!
Sincere thanks to all for helping educate me on all things yorkie!

kezza · 06-02-2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985

Thanks to all that have posted to this thread, I never thought this topic was as heated as it is. When I started this thread I wasn't sure what docking was and why it was done. THANKS again! I've learned a lot from this thread.
To mypreciouspups, I'm so very sorry you had a bad experience.
Thanks to nydia and Wight Witch for sharing pictures of their beautiful "natural" puppies!
Tink is so cute! I love the coloring of her coat I think she's gorgeous! I hope to some day have a puppy as cute as yours!
Sincere thanks to all for helping educate me on all things yorkie!

I don't want your thread to become heated..I just feel very passionate about this particular subject! so forgive me if i became a little carried away! it's good to see a new member, new to yorkies, who is willing to do their research and be educated

06-02-2008, 12:59 AM	#18
hollywillis Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: suffolk england Posts: 96	I am in the UK, my 2 yorkies have their tails, my first yorkie which I had as a teenager was docked, I personally prefer them with their tails, and I am glad it is now an offence here to dock their tails, My belief is if they are born with a tail, they were meant to keep their tails. __________________ IN loving memory of Holly R.I.P

06-02-2008, 02:05 AM	#19
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	docking I am very opposed to docking done by cutting and stitching..it is painful and stresses the puppy and mom.. Using a clamp is quick and bloodless...they barely cry and infection is extremely rare. Vets can make many things far more simple if they want...but as one once told me.."if I do not cut/stitch, then I can not call it a surgical procedure"...

06-02-2008, 10:06 AM	#22
nikkinack YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mid Michigan Posts: 1,510	When I got a puppy if I could choose I would not get its tail docked, I think they are cute with it and I think it should be illegal here two. __________________ Member of Petite Pups United and Spoiled Rotten Club Proud member of the CrAzYcLuB

06-02-2008, 10:35 AM	#23
Mayas Mommy ..... and BLAIR'S too ...... Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Posts: 3,190	OVER HERE IN GERMANY YOU CAN'T DOCK THE TAIL ... THEY SAY IT IS 'INHUMAN' (I HOPE i SPELLED THAT RIGHT) ... SO MAYA HAS A TAIL ... AND WE LOVE IT ... SHE LOOKS SOOO CUTE WITH IT .... __________________ I LOVE MY LIFE AS A MOMMY AND A WIFE

06-02-2008, 12:50 PM	#26
Wight Witch YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Isle of Wight UK Posts: 335	Tink with her tail! .......and her floppy ears! (which we love) I love playing with it, it wraps around my fingers like little snake! __________________ Lesley. Proud Mummy To Tink (Tinkerbell)

06-01-2008, 11:20 PM	#16
Meggie YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Yorkshire, England Posts: 784	Since April 6th last year, 2007, it has been illegal to dock any puppy in the UK. It is a prosecutable offence. The Kennel Club has also banned entry to shows for any docked dog born since that date. So my older two are docked, as previously the breeder could choose and most show dogs were docked, but my youngest one is undocked.

06-02-2008, 12:39 AM	#17
kinnykins Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: fuertventura canary islands Posts: 149	i live in the canary islands and they still dock here, kinny still has her dew claws though, can we see a pic of an un docked tail anyone ?? just curious as to what it looks like ??

06-02-2008, 12:39 PM	#24
kinnykins Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: fuertventura canary islands Posts: 149	thanks for the piccy Nydia, does nt lucy look great !!!

06-02-2008, 12:51 PM	#27
Wight Witch YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Isle of Wight UK Posts: 335	oooopssssssssss helps to add photo! Attached Thumbnails __________________ Lesley. Proud Mummy To Tink (Tinkerbell)

06-02-2008, 01:08 PM	#28
kezza Lovin my Pixie Pooh Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Oxfordshire, United Kingdom. Posts: 3,510	Thankfully this procedure is now banned here in the U.K. My Pixie has her full tail which she uses to express herself..she wags it constantly and carries it high over her back when out strutting her stuff..a sign of confidence...she also has brilliant balance and can dance extremely well on her back legs. I have read alot recently about tail docking and in my opinion the Puppies do feel it..their squeals become more high pitched during the procedure and some puppies even urinate...a sign of pain & shock..people say that they suckle and go straight to sleep afterwards..maybe they do..but this is usually a way of comforting themselves and conserving energy..a way of dealing with the pain and the shock..doesn't mean they are happy and contented and not at all bothered by the whole thing as some seem to suggest...I can recall threads on here where members were disgusted by yorkie ear piercing...but these same people are willing to have their babies tails cut off...I find this hard to understand..we all spend almost every waking hour making sure our precious babies never come to any harm..but are willing to put them through this all in the name of fashion..what makes them more pleasing to OUR eye...they give us so much love and joy..how can we be so selfish? __________________ This Little Girl Has Stolen My Heart! Every Dog Should Have a Tail To Tell.. "I'm a Yorkiestalker"!

06-02-2008, 01:24 PM	#29
DvlshAngel985 Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA Posts: 12,693	Thanks for the info! Thanks to all that have posted to this thread, I never thought this topic was as heated as it is. When I started this thread I wasn't sure what docking was and why it was done. THANKS again! I've learned a lot from this thread. To mypreciouspups, I'm so very sorry you had a bad experience. Thanks to nydia and Wight Witch for sharing pictures of their beautiful "natural" puppies! Tink is so cute! I love the coloring of her coat I think she's gorgeous! I hope to some day have a puppy as cute as yours! Sincere thanks to all for helping educate me on all things yorkie!