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moniquew · 08-03-2005, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Hickey007

You could say that you shouldn't buy a mixed breed dog because you can go to the shelter and rescue one, but really you can say that about purebred dogs as well. I'm not saying that they have purebred dogs there, especially not ones that are registered and come from good breeders, but unless you are showing or breeding one could say that you don't need a purebred dog. Most of us here have yorkies and why did most of us get them? Because we liked the look and temperment of the breed and bottom line we wanted one. Did I need a yorkie? No. Could I have gone to a shelter and rescued a dog? Yes. But I wanted a yorkie so that's what I got. Some people want a mixed breed dog, a certain mixed breed dog and they want one in which they can go to a home and see the pups and trust the people they are getting it from. I don't think the act of buying a mixed breed dog instead of rescueing one is any worse than buying a purebred dog instead of rescueing a dog. Bottom line I don't find a problem with buying a mixed breed dog nor do I find a problem with paying whatever you want for it.
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The temperment that a rescue dog may have is another problem. I know not all dogs from shelters have problems (in fact all the ones that I've either gotten or been around that came from shelters didn't) but some people just can't risk it. The point was made that some people aren't willing to train these dogs but to take that a step further some people don't know how and can't train these dogs. Also some people may have children in their homes and ideally shouldn't have a dog with problems in their home.

Well said!

royalpuppies · 08-03-2005, 08:24 AM

Hello I am a breeder to start and I do have mixed breeds,

I do not want to start a whole fight either but your opinion is always welcome on Yorkie talk.
my web site www.royalpuppies.com has both Pure Bred puppies which I sell from my mother another breeder (of Pure breds or Impoted breeds) and I sell the mixes. We have a few different breeds
(Morkie, Yorktese which is basically the same except that mother and father inversed. In a morkie the mother is Maltese and Yorktese the Mother is Yorkie.) (Yorkie Maltese mix) We also have the Chorkie (Yorkie Chihuahua mix) which sells for less than the Morkie.

Our morkies generally sell at 1200$ Canadian funds. They are vaccinated dewormed twice, vet checked, and guaranteed for 1 year against hereditary defects. We also guarantee 10 days against Viral disease. Same goes to all of our breeds.

I know it is not in everyones budget but I thought you should know of the advantages of mixing breeds.

Please take a look at our Chorkies (Female Chihuahua Male Yorkie)
http://www.royalpuppies.com/chorkiesavailable.htm
You will see that they look almost like regular long or short haired Chihuahuas but NONE have any of the health defects popular to the Chihuahua (like the hole in the head) "MOLERA" they also have less gum teeth and nose problems. you also can choose from a more wide variety of temperaments becuase they can have a mixture of both Yorkie and Chihuahua temperaments.

For those who do not aprove that Mixes should not be bred purposely I ask your opinion or answer to this question. This is honest and I am not being sarcastic please do not take this the whrong way.
Why buy a pure bred Chihuahua with high risks of health issues when you can buy a puppy (mixed) that looks like the Chihuahua, has more variety in temperaments and also has less chances of having the common health issues?

I am asking your opinions I don't mean to start anything here I know some people are against the Mixed breeding. And if you want to talk to me personally you can always email me (info@royalpuppies.com) and it won't get you in trouble with Yorkie Talk.

Our Morkies are also great! They have incredible personalities and also a great look. Don't forget a Mixed breed today can be a Pure Breed Tomorrow. How where all the breeds invented?

There is also the fact of the prices. Our morkies are generally 1200$ for standard size and 1500$ for teacups sizes (runts only) We do not breed teacups on purpose for any breed. They are all guaranteed for 1 year. We are also reasonable if you find a hereditary defect after that 1 year we will accept responsability. Our Chorkies prices range from 500 to 1200 canadian dollars.

For the prices wether you find them reasonable or way too high we also raise our puppies with both humans and other dogs (we are a family of 7 giving attention to our puppies and dogs all day every day 24/7.)

Please let us know your opinion(s) In the future it could change the way I make business and the way I see things.

Puppy Hugs!
Marc-Olivier Parisien

PinkMartini · 08-03-2005, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Hickey007

You could say that you shouldn't buy a mixed breed dog because you can go to the shelter and rescue one, but really you can say that about purebred dogs as well. I'm not saying that they have purebred dogs there, especially not ones that are registered and come from good breeders, but unless you are showing or breeding one could say that you don't need a purebred dog.

I agree with that. We bought both of our dogs to show. So obviously I couldn't go to the shelter and find a show quality dog. But in the future, if I didn't plan on showing I would definitely get a dog from the shelter. And I believe that 'all shelter dogs have problems' is just an excuse for people to not worry about rescueing. NONE of the dogs I've ever adopted (and boy have I adopted a ton) have had issues. They were all just greatful that they were given a 2nd chance at life

PinkMartini · 08-03-2005, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by royalpuppies

For those who do not aprove that Mixes should not be bred purposely I ask your opinion or answer to this question. This is honest and I am not being sarcastic please do not take this the whrong way.
Why buy a pure bred Chihuahua with high risks of health issues when you can buy a puppy (mixed) that looks like the Chihuahua, has more variety in temperaments and also has less chances of having the common health issues?

Why do you breed? Answer that question for me... It's obvious you don't breed for the 'love' of the breed(s). If you did you wouldn't be mixing dog breeds. You'd be working to 'improve' the breed by breeding out health problems, ect. And why have so many different breeds? How can you possibly give each & every dog the attention and love it deserves? Right now I see 27 puppies on your website. 27! And putting "Info pages" on your mixed breeds makes me laugh! There's no way in hell that you can tell what a mutt will look like full grown. There's no standard to what a "Chorkie" will look like.

And about the question above, sorry to say but mixed breed dogs don't have 'less health probelms than purebreds.' Since cotton-pickin' when?? My aunt has a Yorkie/Chihuahua cross who had the very same knee joint problem Yorkies are prone to!

Genetic health problems are caused by bad breeders and can occur in bad cross-breeding just as easily. Don't fall for that myth.

Variety in temperment? Temperment is one of the reasons most people PICK a breed of dog. I know I chose the yorkie breed because of the yorkie temperment.

Breeds are no longer mixes. Yes they started out that way but they're that way no longer.

But no, they did not start out as 'designer breeds'. The dogs we see today were created to fulfill a need, a function. This shepherd wanted a dog that would drive cattle but not be as tall as a regular dogs to be had so it wouldn't get kicked, so now we have the corgis.

This person wanted a dog to work birds but not be as fast so it wouldn't outrun the hunters. The results? The Gordon Setter andt he Clumber Spaniel.

This person needed a dog to retrieve game from freezing waters and have the stamina to do it all day. The Lab, the Chessie and the Water Spaniel came into being to fit these needs.

None of those dogs came about because some one sat down and thought 'Oh-wouldn't-it-be-just-ducky-to-cross-these-two-dogs-for-
the-cutsesy-pups-and-give-them-this-silly
-cutesy-name-and-everyone-will-be-jealous
-of-me-and-want-one!'

The Alaskan Klee Kai, filled the need of the creators because they loved Siberian Huskies but couldn't have such a large dog in thier home. So they set about making a small version of thier beloved breed.

(And they didn't give it a silly name either! Klee Kai is an Eskimo word for 'small dog'. Very appropriate, I think.)

There's a very good article about 'Designer Breeds' in last month's issue of Dog Fancy magazine explaining this. I quote from page 36...

'You hope your pup will represent the best of both breeds but it's possible he'll represent the worst.'

Another quote: 'Some pairings -such as Labs and poodles- bring together breeds susceptible to similar inherited medical problems, in this case hip dysplaysia, epilepsy, and progressive retinal atrophy. Scrupulous breeders of purebred dogs are dutybound to improve the line, which means they must never mate a dog with such inherited characteristics and must never pair, say, a Poodle, with another breed, says Anne Rogers Clark, an AKC all-breed judge and immdeiate past president of the Poodle Club of America.'

'Designer Dogs' are not perfect dogs, no matter what the breeders claim. Labradoodles do require a great deal of grooming because of that coat and they also need a lot of exercise and training, for instance. And of course they're not, as so often portrayed, an allergic-free dog. No breed is.

And of course, the purebreds are more predictable in thier temperment.

Yes, there's clubs that support these cross-breedings (Labradoodle Clubs in 8 states and several Cockapoo Clubs.) But make no mistake, they're still not breeds and when the fad passes, there'll be tons of unwanted dogs about.

(Hmmm, one of these 'clubs' has the name of American Canine Hybrid Club! Now wait just a bone-pickin' minutes. A Hybrid is when you breed two different species such as a wolf/dog, or a donkey/horse or tiger/lion. Designer breeds aren't hybrid! They're still dog/dog pairings! They need to read the dictionary for the proper meaning of that word

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red98vett · 08-03-2005, 10:13 AM

TWENTY-SEVEN BREEDS on ONE site ? WOW ....didn't know that when I saw the original post ....I better keep quiet here....

27 ? all different breeds ? wow.

red98vett · 08-03-2005, 10:24 AM

I must have read wrong - 27 dogs all together for sale not breeds ...but I sure saw alot of puppies there.

MIxed breeds for 1200 Canadian ? Is that like American dollars in Value ?

diva pup · 08-03-2005, 11:02 AM

"And about the question above, sorry to say but mixed breed dogs don't have 'less health probelms than purebreds.' Since cotton-pickin' when?? My aunt has a Yorkie/Chihuahua cross who had the very same knee joint problem Yorkies are prone to!

Genetic health problems are caused by bad breeders and can occur in bad cross-breeding just as easily. Don't fall for that myth."

Summer, I am so glad you pointed that out. It is exactly true.
For all those saying they would pay 500+dollars for a certain mix, I just cannot understand your reasoning.
I am with everyone who says if you are going to get a mix go rescue a puppy at the pound.
This designer dog craze is making me nuts!!!! I think it is about people that do not want to put the time effort and money into producing nice purebred dogs, they just do not want to have to have a standard to compare them to.
It is a good money making scheme tho, I will give you that.

red98vett · 08-03-2005, 11:05 AM

What I don't understand is when there already are so many mixes needing homes in the world - why not adopt one already here rather then pay someone to profit from mix-breeding - Someone could SAVE a dog and have a great mix at the same time.

Designer dogs blow my mind too - it's such a shame with all the homeless dogs needing someone to love them that we would intentionally breed to get these same mixed puppies.

Babbie · 08-03-2005, 01:24 PM

You said it all....i couldn't agree more!

Hickey007 · 08-03-2005, 02:05 PM

I want to take a time out for a second. To be a somewhat of a risky topic I believe everyone has kept calm, or at least it seems that way. I could have missed something but it seems as though everyone just stated their opinion based on thier beliefs or what someone else had said and that was it. It just doesn't seem like big arguments have began...yet (hopefully they won't).
Anyway way to go guys. I like a good discussion every now and then and I really think this topic that deserves discussing.

rachelfraim · 08-03-2005, 06:15 PM

I have had a Yorkie for more than 15 years. When she died, I could not look at any other breed even though the prices for Yorkies had more than TRIPLED!!! After giving it some time, we picked out our next Yorkie but I always wanted to raise two together instead of just one - but husband wanted a good companion for our yorkie - not another yorkie. The best companion seemed to be the maltese but I just didn't think I could handle the white coat. In our research we discovered Morkies or Yorktese. I fell in love with them & that is how we found Stormy. I know many have strong opinions on this, but I honestly do not see any difference in paying big bucks for a yorkie that I want for a pet companion (no intention of breeding) & paying half that for a mix breed that I want as a pet companion. (To be honest I had not even heard the term "designer pup"). We are so thankful we found her - Stormy really is the sweetest & most gentle dog I have been around. She has more the temperment & looks of a Maltese (IMO) - just not the white coat to take care of!! (& she is very gentle with our 2 lb.Kodah) Here are a couple of pictures of our "priceless" Morkie:

Marie · 08-03-2005, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rachelfraim

I have had a Yorkie for more than 15 years. When she died, I could not look at any other breed even though the prices for Yorkies had more than TRIPLED!!! After giving it some time, we picked out our next Yorkie but I always wanted to raise two together instead of just one - but husband wanted a good companion for our yorkie - not another yorkie. The best companion seemed to be the maltese but I just didn't think I could handle the white coat. In our research we discovered Morkies or Yorktese. I fell in love with them & that is how we found Stormy. I know many have strong opinions on this, but I honestly do not see any difference in paying big bucks for a yorkie that I want for a pet companion (no intention of breeding) & paying half that for a mix breed that I want as a pet companion. (To be honest I had not even heard the term "designer pup"). We are so thankful we found her - Stormy really is the sweetest & most gentle dog I have been around. She has more the temperment & looks of a Maltese (IMO) - just not the white coat to take care of!! (& she is very gentle with our 2 lb.Kodah) Here are a couple of pictures of our "priceless" Morkie:

Your morkie is adorable. Stormy is so cute. She is so sweet.

Rex'z momma · 08-03-2005, 07:05 PM

stormy is adorable. IMO Rex is the same. the face of the maltese just not the white coat.

Ashantay · 08-03-2005, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by royalpuppies

Hello I am a breeder to start and I do have mixed breeds,

There is also the fact of the prices. Our morkies are generally 1200$ for standard size and 1500$ for teacups sizes (runts only) We do not breed teacups on purpose for any breed. They are all guaranteed for 1 year. We are also reasonable if you find a hereditary defect after that 1 year we will accept responsability. Our Chorkies prices range from 500 to 1200 canadian dollars.

Teacups???!!!

Other then that not much nice to say so won't say nothing at all

Ashantay · 08-03-2005, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red98vett

I must have read wrong - 27 dogs all together for sale not breeds ...but I sure saw alot of puppies there.

MIxed breeds for 1200 Canadian ? Is that like American dollars in Value ?

Roughly 600 dollars American or 400 pound in the UK

08-03-2005, 08:24 AM	#92
royalpuppies Yorkie Yakker Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 73	High or Low prices? Hello I am a breeder to start and I do have mixed breeds, I do not want to start a whole fight either but your opinion is always welcome on Yorkie talk. my web site www.royalpuppies.com has both Pure Bred puppies which I sell from my mother another breeder (of Pure breds or Impoted breeds) and I sell the mixes. We have a few different breeds (Morkie, Yorktese which is basically the same except that mother and father inversed. In a morkie the mother is Maltese and Yorktese the Mother is Yorkie.) (Yorkie Maltese mix) We also have the Chorkie (Yorkie Chihuahua mix) which sells for less than the Morkie. Our morkies generally sell at 1200$ Canadian funds. They are vaccinated dewormed twice, vet checked, and guaranteed for 1 year against hereditary defects. We also guarantee 10 days against Viral disease. Same goes to all of our breeds. I know it is not in everyones budget but I thought you should know of the advantages of mixing breeds. Please take a look at our Chorkies (Female Chihuahua Male Yorkie) http://www.royalpuppies.com/chorkiesavailable.htm You will see that they look almost like regular long or short haired Chihuahuas but NONE have any of the health defects popular to the Chihuahua (like the hole in the head) "MOLERA" they also have less gum teeth and nose problems. you also can choose from a more wide variety of temperaments becuase they can have a mixture of both Yorkie and Chihuahua temperaments. For those who do not aprove that Mixes should not be bred purposely I ask your opinion or answer to this question. This is honest and I am not being sarcastic please do not take this the whrong way. Why buy a pure bred Chihuahua with high risks of health issues when you can buy a puppy (mixed) that looks like the Chihuahua, has more variety in temperaments and also has less chances of having the common health issues? I am asking your opinions I don't mean to start anything here I know some people are against the Mixed breeding. And if you want to talk to me personally you can always email me (info@royalpuppies.com) and it won't get you in trouble with Yorkie Talk. Our Morkies are also great! They have incredible personalities and also a great look. Don't forget a Mixed breed today can be a Pure Breed Tomorrow. How where all the breeds invented? There is also the fact of the prices. Our morkies are generally 1200$ for standard size and 1500$ for teacups sizes (runts only) We do not breed teacups on purpose for any breed. They are all guaranteed for 1 year. We are also reasonable if you find a hereditary defect after that 1 year we will accept responsability. Our Chorkies prices range from 500 to 1200 canadian dollars. For the prices wether you find them reasonable or way too high we also raise our puppies with both humans and other dogs (we are a family of 7 giving attention to our puppies and dogs all day every day 24/7.) Please let us know your opinion(s) In the future it could change the way I make business and the way I see things. Puppy Hugs! Marc-Olivier Parisien

08-03-2005, 10:13 AM	#95
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	TWENTY-SEVEN BREEDS on ONE site ? WOW ....didn't know that when I saw the original post ....I better keep quiet here.... 27 ? all different breeds ? wow. __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE!

08-03-2005, 10:24 AM	#96
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	I must have read wrong - 27 dogs all together for sale not breeds ...but I sure saw alot of puppies there. MIxed breeds for 1200 Canadian ? Is that like American dollars in Value ? __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE! Last edited by red98vett; 08-03-2005 at 10:26 AM.

08-03-2005, 11:05 AM	#98
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	What I don't understand is when there already are so many mixes needing homes in the world - why not adopt one already here rather then pay someone to profit from mix-breeding - Someone could SAVE a dog and have a great mix at the same time. Designer dogs blow my mind too - it's such a shame with all the homeless dogs needing someone to love them that we would intentionally breed to get these same mixed puppies. __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE!

08-03-2005, 01:24 PM	#99
Babbie Got Mojo? Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Miami Posts: 1,117	PinkMartini You said it all....i couldn't agree more! __________________ Thati & Mojo

08-03-2005, 11:02 AM	#97
diva pup BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,139	"And about the question above, sorry to say but mixed breed dogs don't have 'less health probelms than purebreds.' Since cotton-pickin' when?? My aunt has a Yorkie/Chihuahua cross who had the very same knee joint problem Yorkies are prone to! Genetic health problems are caused by bad breeders and can occur in bad cross-breeding just as easily. Don't fall for that myth." Summer, I am so glad you pointed that out. It is exactly true. For all those saying they would pay 500+dollars for a certain mix, I just cannot understand your reasoning. I am with everyone who says if you are going to get a mix go rescue a puppy at the pound. This designer dog craze is making me nuts!!!! I think it is about people that do not want to put the time effort and money into producing nice purebred dogs, they just do not want to have to have a standard to compare them to. It is a good money making scheme tho, I will give you that.

08-03-2005, 02:05 PM	#100
Hickey007 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 789	I want to take a time out for a second. To be a somewhat of a risky topic I believe everyone has kept calm, or at least it seems that way. I could have missed something but it seems as though everyone just stated their opinion based on thier beliefs or what someone else had said and that was it. It just doesn't seem like big arguments have began...yet (hopefully they won't). Anyway way to go guys. I like a good discussion every now and then and I really think this topic that deserves discussing. __________________ Courtney

08-03-2005, 06:15 PM	#101
rachelfraim Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Edmond, Oklahoma Posts: 472	I have had a Yorkie for more than 15 years. When she died, I could not look at any other breed even though the prices for Yorkies had more than TRIPLED!!! After giving it some time, we picked out our next Yorkie but I always wanted to raise two together instead of just one - but husband wanted a good companion for our yorkie - not another yorkie. The best companion seemed to be the maltese but I just didn't think I could handle the white coat. In our research we discovered Morkies or Yorktese. I fell in love with them & that is how we found Stormy. I know many have strong opinions on this, but I honestly do not see any difference in paying big bucks for a yorkie that I want for a pet companion (no intention of breeding) & paying half that for a mix breed that I want as a pet companion. (To be honest I had not even heard the term "designer pup"). We are so thankful we found her - Stormy really is the sweetest & most gentle dog I have been around. She has more the temperment & looks of a Maltese (IMO) - just not the white coat to take care of!! (& she is very gentle with our 2 lb.Kodah) Here are a couple of pictures of our "priceless" Morkie: Attached Thumbnails __________________ Kodah, Stormy & Rachel Kodah pics!

08-03-2005, 07:05 PM	#103
Rex'z momma BANNED! Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 798	stormy is adorable. IMO Rex is the same. the face of the maltese just not the white coat.