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Chrissy0277 08-17-2008 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinehaven (Post 2187529)
Black and tan yorkies are also not to standard - they are all wrong as well, yet I don't see people complaining about black coat colors in their posts, only parti, chocolate and golden?

I dont agree with them either. A yorkie should be dark steel blue and gold. Just forgot to type it in

wemple2 08-17-2008 05:52 PM

But truly in reality there are very few "standard" colored Yorkies. Winston is 100% Yorkie...but is he the standard...I think not.

nudiva37 08-17-2008 05:54 PM

Question?
 
Can anybody tell me about the black and tan Yorkies. I groomed a couple a few years ago. They were over 2 years old. I see on the AKC the color for Black and Tan and Blue and Tan. When I do my reading it talks about how the black will turn blue and so forth.
So what happen to the Black and tan people ask me and I don't quite understand what happen either?

romeos mommy 08-17-2008 05:56 PM

i like the blonde and choc :thumbup:

yorkiekist 08-17-2008 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinehaven (Post 2187532)
And guess what, it's the genes from the past that are seen in our colorful yorkies today!

So, what happened to the colored Maltese of the 1920's? I dont see them around any more. Maybe they were not the standard and therefore not bred for. And I still dont see any parti Silkies. Where in the world are all those parti genes that the Maltese is credited for? Those genes from the past would be just as prevelent in Silkies as in Yorkies.
The past is just that, the past. The standard for the Yorkie is what it is. So if breeders are breeding for non-standard dogs,(color, structure, size, temperment, conformation,etc) doesnt that make them indescriminate, unethical breeders? And if the Yorkie standard should be changed, why not all of the breeds. Lets just breed willy nilly. Lets not have any "breeds". Everyone could have mutts and all could be equal on the playing field.

alishasmom 08-17-2008 06:09 PM

This is going to surprize some of you,but I have never seen a yorkie in person, other than mine. so, I did not even know about other colors. In case you wonder, trixie was delivered to me. Therefore, i never saw her brother's and sisters. I have seen a picture here in the forum of some nice looking b somehing. Those are beautifull

MeganS 08-17-2008 06:20 PM

I do not have a problem with it.

Like people, yorkies come in all different colors, shapes, and sizes. How BORING would it be if they all looked exactly the same? I fell in love with my yorkie for his personality, not his looks. My favorite thing about the yorkie breed is the incredible variety - every yorkie is different! It makes me SO sad that people are so judgemental even towards DOGS, who never judge anyone in their whole lives! I don't think they should be sold as special or rare or should be bred purposely in hopes of making a quick buck...but I don't "dissaprove" of them.

To put it sinply, I don't care if they're blue and gold, brown and black, golden, red, chocolate, green, purple, or orange with pink polka dots - I love ALL yorkies!

TammyJM 08-17-2008 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chrissy0277 (Post 2187535)
I dont agree with them either. A yorkie should be dark steel blue and gold. Just forgot to type it in

So would you say that you are a stickler for the rules of YTCA?? I only ask this because blue and gold is also not the standard set forth by them ....blue and tan is.

pagonzal 08-17-2008 06:40 PM

I love all Yorkies, no matter what color or size.

Pam

txshopper73 08-17-2008 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AmourYorkies (Post 2009584)
I just want to know people's opinion on breeding different colored yorkies that aren't the AKC standard such as gold or chocolate.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion so I will give mine.

I believe that breeders should breed as close to the standard as possible...start off with a good stock and improve from there. I do not believe in breeding for the "special" or "off" colors.

HillbillyBelle 08-17-2008 06:59 PM

My point was....this same discussion was carried on when breeders were breeding to downsize the 20+ pounders of yesteryear to the wonderful "little" guys we love so much today. After all, they didn't just pop out one day as puppies that would grow to 7 pound, blue and tan adults.
Who knows, maybe the tris, etc are on their way to becoming a whole other class of Yorkie? Just a thought..

Nancy1999 08-17-2008 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by txshopper73 (Post 2187688)
Everyone is entitled to their opinion so I will give mine.

I believe that breeders should breed as close to the standard as possible...start off with a good stock and improve from there. I do not believe in breeding for the "special" or "off" colors.

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
I agree with this, I think we should enjoy all the offspring, but we are talking about breeding, and I too believe breeders should breed as close to standard as possible.

yorkiekist 08-17-2008 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by txshopper73 (Post 2187688)
Everyone is entitled to their opinion so I will give mine.

I believe that breeders should breed as close to the standard as possible...start off with a good stock and improve from there. I do not believe in breeding for the "special" or "off" colors.

:thumbup::thumbup:Well stated!!!

Punkin&Piper 08-17-2008 08:25 PM

I like to see all colors but sticking to the breed standards for breeding purposes is probably best

Pinehaven 08-18-2008 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by nudiva37 (Post 2187552)
Can anybody tell me about the black and tan Yorkies. I groomed a couple a few years ago. They were over 2 years old. I see on the AKC the color for Black and Tan and Blue and Tan. When I do my reading it talks about how the black will turn blue and so forth.
So what happen to the Black and tan people ask me and I don't quite understand what happen either?

AKC lists black and tan and black and gold on their applications because yorkie puppies are born those colors. It is acceptable for young yorkies to be black and tan but their coat should turn blue as an adult.

The problem is, that some of our yorkies lack the gene that will turn their coats grey and they will always have black coats - that is not an acceptable adult color (according to the YTCA's standards).

Black coated yorkies are used in reputable breeding programs to improve/enhance the coat color in thier show potential pups. I love all colors but I'm just trying to make a point that there seems to be double standards with regards to some off colors being (more) accepted and some off colors not being accepted.

AlfiesMum 08-18-2008 03:46 AM

I don't mind the colours of Yorkie ~ I think they are all gorgeous.

Alfie is blue nearly all over with bits of tan on the face and he is KC reg. His mum was the same colour as him but I think his dad was blue and tan. And I know for a fact that the breeders did not mix them for colours. I have never heard that before. I know over here its breeding to get the smallest of Yorkie but not colours.

myyorkshireters 08-18-2008 07:44 AM

I agree with Krissie Bella 100% i ahve two different colour yorkies one is brown andblack with short curly hair.My other one is long straight hair the colour sliver grey colour it does not matter what colour they all yorkies are special.What ever colour they are.

Mum to Max and pepsi and cindy(god bless her soul)

Pinehaven 08-18-2008 08:20 AM

Those who oppose the off colored yorkies, other than producing colors that aren't to the breed standard (remember, standards have changed not only with YTCA but also other breed registries) is it the color that you are opposed to? Is it the Genes that you are opposed to? Is it the fear of change that you are opposed to? What exactly makes an off colored yorkie, that comes from generations of AKC registered Yorkshire terrier parents, any less a Yorkshire terrier than their standard blue and tan colored siblings? :scratchhe

Angelstarr 08-18-2008 09:57 AM

I am a newbie in all rights but I think the color is not as important as the health of the pup. It is my understanding the health problems come from inferrior breeding practices, which are sometimes used to get the colored yorkies. I am not pointing the finger at anyone.
My opinion is that if the health of the pup can be guarenteed to be good then the color should be a bonus if someone wants a different color than what lay people consider normal.

the Biewers and Silver, Tan and multi colored Yorkies that I have seen in pictures on this web site are so beautiful. How could you not love them?

I think eventually as the Biewers and other colors become more predictable from solid bloodlines the standards will change again allowing those colors to be part of the AKC, and other registration processes.

Just My 2 cents..

I love them all they are all just soooo cute.

AnaClaire 08-18-2008 01:48 PM

Biewers
 
Oh I love Biewers! SO cute!:p:thumbup:

good_gurl63901 08-18-2008 02:10 PM

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Teddy is my first yorkie, and I have to admit you are all confusing the tar outta me!!! He is APRI reg (well I have to get it in my name) but I don't know what to put for his color and now i am even more confused! He is 5 months old, and big for a yorkie... I don't care that I can't show him or anything, but it makes me second guess him... KWIM?? What should I put as his coloring???

AlfiesMum 08-18-2008 02:29 PM

Alfie is KC Reg which is the UK version of AKC and he was registered as black and tan.

AnaClaire 08-18-2008 02:41 PM

black and tan
 
Cookie is CKC registered as black and tan, I found Gizmo so he's not registered to my knowledge, but he's silver and tan

AnaClaire 08-18-2008 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by good_gurl63901 (Post 2189036)
Teddy is my first yorkie, and I have to admit you are all confusing the tar outta me!!! He is APRI reg (well I have to get it in my name) but I don't know what to put for his color and now i am even more confused! He is 5 months old, and big for a yorkie... I don't care that I can't show him or anything, but it makes me second guess him... KWIM?? What should I put as his coloring???

I would put black and tan! He is so cute by the way:p

alishasmom 08-18-2008 05:13 PM

He is black and tan. forget about the gold, he will change colors anyway.

good_gurl63901 08-18-2008 05:23 PM

Thanks guys!!! I don't care about papers, I love my teddy bear! AND I think he is a great looking dog!! lol

kat1york 08-18-2008 05:57 PM

Different colored Yorkies
 
:aimeeyork In my opinion, I think multi colored yorkies would be so cute.
I'm not a breeder but do own a standard Black/Gold Yorkie with some blue on the back of his coat.
I think the important thing is to consider any health issues with cross breeding.
I love the standard Yorkie's personality and wouldn't want this to change during cross breeding.
I'm studying Vet Tech. medincine and have seen... Yorkiepoos, Yorki/maltese alot and yes ,they may be cute as a button, but the Maltese mixed with the Yorkie only hightens the chances of Livershunt and other simular diseases.
Gum disease, colapsed trachea...things like this...
I don't think its wise to take 2 different breeds with the same health issues and mix them together.
JMO
Kat

kat1york 08-18-2008 05:58 PM

Alfie is adorable!!!!!
Kat

kat1york 08-18-2008 06:02 PM

I agree... Blk/Tan or Gold whichever you like.
Some say Tan others say Gold.
My Jack gets real blonde " almost white, which I love" in the summer time then back to gold during the winter.
Remember, just like us they have real hair that can be affected by the sun....right???
kat

yorkiekist 08-19-2008 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinehaven (Post 2188352)
Those who oppose the off colored yorkies, other than producing colors that aren't to the breed standard (remember, standards have changed not only with YTCA but also other breed registries) is it the color that you are opposed to? Is it the Genes that you are opposed to? Is it the fear of change that you are opposed to? What exactly makes an off colored yorkie, that comes from generations of AKC registered Yorkshire terrier parents, any less a Yorkshire terrier than their standard blue and tan colored siblings? :scratchhe

The standard for the Yorkie has always been blue and tan. The founders of this breed(1800's) never included parti, chocolate, solid colors, goldens or any other color in the developement of this breed.. A small white spot on the chest that quickly turned tan was common also. The coat was always of prime importance in this breed from the get go. This included texture and color. It did not include parti colors. The YTCA standard never included these "designer" colors, ever! The texture and length were developed from the clysdale terrier and paisly terrier(both extinct and both blue and tan) so why in the world would the founders of this breed use a Maltese or any other colored dog? I dont believe the founders of this breed were stupid or hap-hazard in their breeding practices to produce a blue and tan terrier. The only change in the YtCA standard in umpteen years is the DQ for color in Oct, 2007. This was to keep the "designer" colors out of the show ring since the accuracy of the background of these dogs is questionable, for one, and two, they do not conform to the standard of the breed. I dont think that anyone is "afraid of change". I wonder why NONE of the other countries Yorkie standards include parti colors? I dont see any parti Silkies. But I am sure you have been down this road before, read the same things, blah, blah, blah.....

I wonder if the Biewer club would mind very much if I started breeding blue and tan Biewers?(blue saddle, tan head and legs, kinda looks like a Yorkie) Supposedly, that is the color of every Biewers background. Maybe I can change their standard so I can show them too. Do you think that they are as passionate about their breed as the YTCA is about Yorkies?


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