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Old 05-20-2008, 10:46 PM   #1
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Default Present Bush to Veto Important Puppy Mills Law!

The Humane Society is urging everyone to contact their local representatives because President Bush has said that he intends to veto several important animal protection measures that will stop the importation of animals from foreign puppy mills, and significantly strengthen the federal law against dogfighting and cockfighting. The bill also authorizes a much-needed increase in penalties for any violation of the Animal Welfare Act.

This link will tell you how to get the phone number of your local representative, and gives more information on the bill. I know we all ask ourselves what we can do to help; well this is one small thing we each can do that will make a difference. Please call, and send this link to your friends who care about animals. Please help stop this needless suffering. We can make a difference! https://community.hsus.org/humane/no...er_id=24256636
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Old 05-21-2008, 03:47 AM   #2
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What other bills are attached to the ones he is vetoing? That may be the reason for the veto.
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I'm sure there is some reason for him doing so. He does own a dog, and I'm sure he does not support the abuse of animals.
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068 What other bills are attached to the ones he is vetoing? That may be the reason for the veto.

You're right. There may be other things attached to the bill that he's not in agreement with and that could lead to his veto.
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You can copy the sentence from the website and send it to your representative in your state...the website makes it so easy...

please, for those poor abuse animals!
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What other bills are attached to the ones he is vetoing? That may be the reason for the veto.
I was wondering the same thing. This is one of the biggest problems with Congress, is that they earmark (or piggie back) a bunch of extra bene's to the bill which causes it to be veto'ed. In the end, they kill their own bills.
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Thank you for this information. We have to try anyway we can to stop the abuse animals!
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Here's the veto reason:

Last week, House and Senate negotiators on the Farm Bill agreed to the terms of the legislation, and the final bill (called a conference report) is slated for an up-or-down vote in the House and Senate this week. It's controversial for a number of reasons, mainly its $300-billion price tag and the subsidies that wealthy farmers, including sugar growers, are slated to receive at a time when they are already reaping record profits. For that reason, President Bush is considering a veto. It appears though that the measure has broad, bipartisan support in Congress; there's something in it for everyone (kind of like a Department of Defense authorizing and appropriations bill with a nugget for every district and major player), and if Bush vetoes it, both chambers may override.

http://hsus.typepad.com/wayne/2008/05/farm-bill.html

This is a conflict for me, as I do not believe we should continue to subsidise our farmers. It's a practice that has failed IMO. If they wanted to really help the animals, they should propose a clean bill and not muddy it up with other interests.
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This is a conflict for me, as I do not believe we should continue to subsidise our farmers. It's a practice that has failed IMO. If they wanted to really help the animals, they should propose a clean bill and not muddy it up with other interests.
Never gonna happen.
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Never gonna happen.
Yep, that's the problem with politics.
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Some of you may be right about other parts of the bill, but I believe you could still inform the legislators about the parts on which you agree.

"The Farm Bill includes a provision, inserted in the original Senate bill by Majority Whip Richard Durbin, to curb the import of puppies for commercial sale from foreign puppy mills. A growing number of breeders in Eastern European countries, China, Mexico, and other foreign countries see the United States as a potential market and are shipping tens of thousands of dogs in, even though there is a strong domestic dog and cat breeding industry here and there are millions of pets available from shelters, rescue groups, and U.S. breeders. The provisions require that any dog imported into the United States for commercial sale be at least 6 months old, to ensure that young, unweaned, and unvaccinated puppies are not forced to suffer from harsh, long-distance transport. They also ensure that any dog entering the United States be deemed healthy prior to entry. Exceptions are provided so as not to interfere with shelter and rescue work, veterinary treatment, or research purposes."

This provision has potential to dramatically slow the inhumane trade in puppies into the United States. That will bring great relief to dogs right now, but it will also be a bulwark against the development of a massive puppy breeding industry in China and other countries that might see the United States as an even more lucrative market for puppy sales, notwithstanding serious lucrative market for puppy sales, serious animal welfare concerns.

There's also what I call the Michael Vick provision, and this measure has potentially enormous consequences for the future of dogfighting and cockfighting in this country."



In addition to cracking down on all staged animal fights that are organized in the United States, the federal legislation also bans the export of fighting animals to other nations." Wayne Pacelle: A Humane Nation


I thought it was important to remind our representatives which parts of the bill we agree. At least if it isn't passed this time around, those parts would be included in any new proposal.
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I can't believe I wrote "Present Bush" instead of "President Bush".
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Some of you may be right about other parts of the bill, but I believe you could still inform the legislators about the parts on which you agree.
True, but that won't be accomplished by copy/pasting a prewritten paragraph. And on offense, but the site urging you to do so doesn't give you any information or references to back up their claims, just a nice 'do this because we say so.'

JMO, don't get me wrong, I completely agree and would support efforts by congress to address the issues if they addressed individually, but I'm not willing to speak out against a movement as a whole that affects more than just the area of my concern.

Is there a link to an unbiased summary of how the bill addresses the issue? I'd be curious to read it.
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Here's the veto reason:

Last week, House and Senate negotiators on the Farm Bill agreed to the terms of the legislation, and the final bill (called a conference report) is slated for an up-or-down vote in the House and Senate this week. It's controversial for a number of reasons, mainly its $300-billion price tag and the subsidies that wealthy farmers, including sugar growers, are slated to receive at a time when they are already reaping record profits. For that reason, President Bush is considering a veto. It appears though that the measure has broad, bipartisan support in Congress; there's something in it for everyone (kind of like a Department of Defense authorizing and appropriations bill with a nugget for every district and major player), and if Bush vetoes it, both chambers may override.

Wayne Pacelle: A Humane Nation

This is a conflict for me, as I do not believe we should continue to subsidise our farmers. It's a practice that has failed IMO. If they wanted to really help the animals, they should propose a clean bill and not muddy it up with other interests.
I so agree with you! I hate all this pork barrel spending. I wish that a bill could only be submitted for one thing at a time. It just gets ridiculous the things that get added to the bills before they will pass them!
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