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Annadoodle · 07-28-2005, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystify79

It depends on the size of the mat.. Tuffy gets some huge ones so I usually use the larger toothed side for those to break them up and then the fine toothed side to comb them out.

I should add, the fine toothed side is fantastic for combing their faces too because it's small.

Thanks Adria...I just learned something about combs...

I have one..and I haven't liked it for some reason

...its a good one I thought too

...here is a pick of it..I got it because the pins would rotate and move...

http://www.petsmart.com/global/produ...=1122577085385

But...it just works o.k...I go back to Chris's brush....
maybe I need a new comb...lol

jwash · 07-28-2005, 12:26 PM

First of all, make sure you are using a good wire brush and are brushing correctly (against the hairline). My breeder told me to just add a little skin so soft to the bath water to keep mattes down. Now that mine are grown up I use J&J detangler because I just don't like the smell of Avon's skin so soft. Another thing that seemed to work for me was to handle my dogs a lot, around the face, feet, tummy rubs, etc. when they were puppies. They get used to it and then do not put up a fight at bath time. Also, put your dog on a counter to brush/groom. When I try to go to their level, on the floor, etc to brush, they would always put up a fuss. If you are above your dog, it isn't as likely to be a battle. Hopefully, these ideas will help.

lily · 07-28-2005, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sillyjacki

I don't know if this is even possible on our little guys, but my Australian Shepherd gets TERRIBLE mats, and I use a mat cutter to work them out. This leaves a lot of the hair and doesn't take as long to get through...

After you use the cutter, you brush it out and the mat just kind of disappears.

Said mat cutter:

You have watch what you are doing using this tool! It is sharp and you can cut the dog bad! I don't even use it! lily

FireFish · 07-28-2005, 01:09 PM

It is true that they are extremely sharp.

On Indy, the Aussie it works well as she is used to it and ...much larger dog...She stays still. Her hair sheds so that is different than the hair on a Yorkie that doesn't shed.

lilbumbleybees · 07-28-2005, 08:33 PM

Ahhh, we get that question in my groom shop ALL the time. You need a dematter. Or a dematting brush;comb. You can find them at Petsmart, PetCo, etc. They are wonderful tools. But also, be more firm. Give treats when you brush your baby. And make it a daily thing for you to do. Brush your baby 3 or 4 times a day until it just becomes the usual for him and hes used to it. Then you can start brushing him once or twice a day. That will be enough unless you just aren~t brushing him enough. In that case, you might want to try a detangling spray. I hate having to shave down Yorkies when customers come in just because they tell me, he wont let me brush him! Its always the other way around. They let their yorkie win the battle. And that just results in your yorkie training you whereas you should be training him. Good luck!

Marie · 07-28-2005, 08:47 PM

Good thread. Gucci's hair get so matted when she wears clothes and her harness. I brush her hair with a cone after I spray detangler in her hair.

Annadoodle · 07-29-2005, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by lilbumbleybees

Ahhh, we get that question in my groom shop ALL the time. You need a dematter. Or a dematting brush;comb. You can find them at Petsmart, PetCo, etc. They are wonderful tools. But also, be more firm. Give treats when you brush your baby. And make it a daily thing for you to do. Brush your baby 3 or 4 times a day until it just becomes the usual for him and hes used to it. Then you can start brushing him once or twice a day. That will be enough unless you just aren~t brushing him enough. In that case, you might want to try a detangling spray. I hate having to shave down Yorkies when customers come in just because they tell me, he wont let me brush him! Its always the other way around. They let their yorkie win the battle. And that just results in your yorkie training you whereas you should be training him. Good luck!

Thanks for the support and reminder to keep at it...give treats..etc...

Your right. Its hard to keep doing something that our baby's dispise...lol

But..the treats..and just doing it many times daily...may help just get them to THAT IS JUST THE WAY IT IS...lol

And we should be training them.....
Not the other way....thanks for that too~

Sometimes its nice to hear what we already know...lol

red98vett · 07-29-2005, 03:59 AM

My girls will get matts UNDER their arms from clothes - I learned 2 years ago - Johnsons No More Tangles will get the matts OUT - then spraying Ice on Ice on them BEFORE they wear something will help alot to prevent matts.

IF the matts are the close to the skin kind - and very bad - I would advise trimming them off so you aren't hurting your baby - let that hair grow back and keep up with it every day AND using a light spray on to help prevent new ones from forming -

Even playing will cause friction under their arms and they HATE to be brushed there - I usually use my fingers to make sure there are no knots and a good brush....Good luck - it's an ongoing thing we have to deal with when you have long haired yorkies....

Buddy · 07-29-2005, 04:20 AM

I agree with what everyone is saying here, try some detangling shampoo and stuff like that. The brush we use on Buddy is also a double-sided one... it's really good, because one side is like a thicker brush, for getting out knotted bits, and the other side is more like a comb, for parting and smoothing down the hair, we've found it really useful and it makes him look great after being brushed. I'll try an find a picky of the brush we have, hold a minute...
Jade

Buddy · 07-29-2005, 04:24 AM

Ah ha! I don't think these are the excact brushes that Buddy has, but they look almost the same, they're very similar. Here they are, I just found these piccies on the web... they work wonders on a tangled, messy or just plain scruffy pup!

crystalsmom · 07-29-2005, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Deegan's mom

Ok, so I am such a bad, bad mommy. I try to give Deegan a good brushing on the weekends when he gets his bath and then a couple shorter times during the week too. But it's so hard, he quirms and bites and growls.

Maybe I should be doing more often or maybe be more firm with him because I found a little mat under his little armpit last night. It's matted pretty good. And I tried to pull it apart as much as I could, then brush it out. But it's not coming out completely. It has loosend up, but it not gone yet.

So my question is what it the best grooming tool to use to get these nasty liitle mats out? A brush, a comb, a slicker brush etc? If you have any other suggestions I would appreciate them also. I feel like a terrible mother, not taking proper care of him.

Does Deegan have a silk or cotton coat ?? The silk coat will not mat nearly as
much. A silk coat is cool to the touch and the cotton is not.
Joan and Crystal

Deegan's mom · 07-29-2005, 06:00 AM

I looked at that one too last night when I was at PetSmart, but I wasn't impressed with it either. The teeth just seem to move around to easily, both back and forth and spin around. There just isn't much quality there at all. I am going to order the one from Chris Systems.

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Originally Posted by Annadoodle

Thanks Adria...I just learned something about combs...

I have one..and I haven't liked it for some reason

...its a good one I thought too

...here is a pick of it..I got it because the pins would rotate and move...

http://www.petsmart.com/global/produ...=1122577085385

But...it just works o.k...I go back to Chris's brush....
maybe I need a new comb...lol

Deegan's mom · 07-29-2005, 06:01 AM

From what I can tell, he seems to be a cottony coat.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crystalsmom

Does Deegan have a silk or cotton coat ?? The silk coat will not mat nearly as
much. A silk coat is cool to the touch and the cotton is not.
Joan and Crystal

Deegan's mom · 07-29-2005, 06:05 AM

What do you mean by "cone"? Or do you mean comb? I'm confused.

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Originally Posted by Marie

Good thread. Gucci's hair get so matted when she wears clothes and her harness. I brush her hair with a cone after I spray detangler in her hair.

07-28-2005, 08:33 PM	#20
lilbumbleybees YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 1,339	Ahhh, we get that question in my groom shop ALL the time. You need a dematter. Or a dematting brush;comb. You can find them at Petsmart, PetCo, etc. They are wonderful tools. But also, be more firm. Give treats when you brush your baby. And make it a daily thing for you to do. Brush your baby 3 or 4 times a day until it just becomes the usual for him and hes used to it. Then you can start brushing him once or twice a day. That will be enough unless you just aren~t brushing him enough. In that case, you might want to try a detangling spray. I hate having to shave down Yorkies when customers come in just because they tell me, he wont let me brush him! Its always the other way around. They let their yorkie win the battle. And that just results in your yorkie training you whereas you should be training him. Good luck! __________________ Liz Little Lotte , Bouncer, Lilli , Yodi

07-28-2005, 08:47 PM	#21
Marie Mom loves Gucci Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 6,427	Good thread. Gucci's hair get so matted when she wears clothes and her harness. I brush her hair with a cone after I spray detangler in her hair. __________________ Huggies, Gucci and Marie http://www.dogster.com/?132187 "I have been egged"

07-29-2005, 03:59 AM	#23
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	My girls will get matts UNDER their arms from clothes - I learned 2 years ago - Johnsons No More Tangles will get the matts OUT - then spraying Ice on Ice on them BEFORE they wear something will help alot to prevent matts. IF the matts are the close to the skin kind - and very bad - I would advise trimming them off so you aren't hurting your baby - let that hair grow back and keep up with it every day AND using a light spray on to help prevent new ones from forming - Even playing will cause friction under their arms and they HATE to be brushed there - I usually use my fingers to make sure there are no knots and a good brush....Good luck - it's an ongoing thing we have to deal with when you have long haired yorkies.... __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE!

07-29-2005, 04:20 AM	#24
Buddy Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: England Posts: 165	I agree with what everyone is saying here, try some detangling shampoo and stuff like that. The brush we use on Buddy is also a double-sided one... it's really good, because one side is like a thicker brush, for getting out knotted bits, and the other side is more like a comb, for parting and smoothing down the hair, we've found it really useful and it makes him look great after being brushed. I'll try an find a picky of the brush we have, hold a minute... Jade __________________ Lyn&Jade&Buddy http://www.dogster.com/?161903

07-29-2005, 04:24 AM	#25
Buddy Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: England Posts: 165	Double-sided brush Ah ha! I don't think these are the excact brushes that Buddy has, but they look almost the same, they're very similar. Here they are, I just found these piccies on the web... they work wonders on a tangled, messy or just plain scruffy pup! Attached Thumbnails __________________ Lyn&Jade&Buddy http://www.dogster.com/?161903

07-28-2005, 12:26 PM	#17
jwash YT 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 723	First of all, make sure you are using a good wire brush and are brushing correctly (against the hairline). My breeder told me to just add a little skin so soft to the bath water to keep mattes down. Now that mine are grown up I use J&J detangler because I just don't like the smell of Avon's skin so soft. Another thing that seemed to work for me was to handle my dogs a lot, around the face, feet, tummy rubs, etc. when they were puppies. They get used to it and then do not put up a fight at bath time. Also, put your dog on a counter to brush/groom. When I try to go to their level, on the floor, etc to brush, they would always put up a fuss. If you are above your dog, it isn't as likely to be a battle. Hopefully, these ideas will help.

07-28-2005, 01:09 PM	#19
FireFish Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 425	It is true that they are extremely sharp. On Indy, the Aussie it works well as she is used to it and ...much larger dog...She stays still. Her hair sheds so that is different than the hair on a Yorkie that doesn't shed.