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| YT Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Fairborn, OH
Posts: 345
| I agree with you. Staying at the breeder for too long could cause them to develop too big of an attachment to that environment. I don't think my Kashi even thinks about his old life anymore... |
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| | #47 | |
| Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina
Posts: 8,317
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I couldn't agree more. Any breeder who blatantly violates the breed club's code of conduct is not a reputable breeder. CODE OF CONDUCT 8) All puppies leaving the breeders possession will be a minimum of twelve (12) weeks of age to facilitate adequate socialization as well as appropriate emotional and temperament development through interaction with siblings, dam and other dogs. http://www.ytca.org/ethics.html | |
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| | #48 |
| No Longer a Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Seneca, SC
Posts: 2,837
| I'm glad YTCA has done all this studying..I bet if they came to my house, they would never be able to decide by the way they act which one I got at 6 weeks and which one at 11, infact, I'd bet $1000 that they would totally get the 2 of them mixed up.. |
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| Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: DFW, Texas
Posts: 11,003
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There is just no reason for a puppy to leave that early except out of pure selfishness. A breeder would only let a puppy go that young because they either don't know any better or are being lazy and don't want to take care of puppies any longer. And anyone that will only bring a puppy home that young is being selfish and not looking out for the best interest of the puppy. It is proven it is better for the puppies to stay with their breeder, mother, and littermates longer. The YTCA members have been showing and breeding for years and years...they know more about the yorkshire terrier breed than most YT members combined. I'm pretty sure they have their rules for good reasons...mostly FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF THE DOGS!
__________________ ~Magnifique Yorkies~ Purchasing from backyard breeders, pet shops, and puppymills perpetuates the suffering of other dogs. Educate yourself and buy from reputable breeders or rescue. | |
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| | #50 |
| YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cheshire, England.
Posts: 489
| We Brought Harvey Home At 8 Weeks, And He Was Naturally Fearful At First, I Think That Would Have Been The Case Even At 12 Weeks, Leaving His Mum And All He Knew. He Soon Settled Down And Has Been A Joy To Us, With No Socialisation Issues, He Loves Meeting All Other Dogs, And People Too, As Long As They Dont Try To Pick Him Up - He Doesnt Like Being Picked Up By Strangers Or People He Doesnt Know. But He Thinks Everyone In This World Is Only Here To Meet And Greet Harvey!!!!!!!!
__________________ Take Care - Diane and little Harvey ![]() MEMBER OF THE SPOILED ROTTEN CLUB AND PETITE PUPS UNITED |
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| | #51 |
| Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Stafford Springs, CT
Posts: 75
| We made *two* bad decisions regarding our introduction to Sadie Girl.. We brought her home at 8-weeks old from a pet store (gasps all around, lol). I know there's both good and bad in regards to bringing your puppy home early, and I know the feelings regarding getting your baby from a pet store. That said, we have been INCREDIBLY INCREDIBLY lucky with Sadie. Knowing now what I know, I probably would never again get a puppy from a pet store, but in Sadie's case, I am SO glad I did. I can't imagine not having THIS SPECIFIC Yorkie, lol. We have had no problems with her whatsoever; we chose to pee-pee pad train her and take her outside on random intervals. She's almost 1.5 years and completely pee-pee pad trained and also will go outside (if we take her). She's very healthy, eats like a horse (LOL), gets along with every human she meets, and LOVES other animals to death. It's funny, knowing the statistics w/ pet store puppies, because it's almost like Sadie is the EXACT opposite. We were so, so lucky. Found out after we got her and did our research (a little backward, I know) that she came from one of the biggest puppy mills in America. I feel horrible about that, but at the same time, she was born there regardless, and I can't imagine not having her, you know? We're just lucky she turned out so good. No emotional issues at all (unless you don't play with her when she wants...:P) Instead of from da hood, Sadie's tough cuz she's from da mill..... bad joke, I know....but she's a toughie!!
__________________ Sadie: making the decisions since 12-10-06!! Member of the SPOILED ROTTEN CLUB! |
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| | #52 | |
| Donating YT 5000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Southeast Texas
Posts: 7,959
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http://www.diamondsintheruff.com/ear...alization.html Puppy socialization begins with the breeder. Just because a breeder keeps a puppy until it is 12 weeks old does not mean that puppy was properly socialized, that is why it is important to ask questions about how the puppies are raised. Also, a puppy might have been keep until 12 weeks and the new owner might take that puppy home, stick it in a crate, neglect it and not continue with proper socialization. Over vaccination can also be contributed to many of the behavioral problems: http://www.deide.net/misc.html | |
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| | #53 |
| Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama
Posts: 11,432
| I don't think that it's impossible to get a pup at an earlier age and have success with the outcome. I do however think you are taking a much bigger risk that is easily avoidable. If you do have a positive experience, chalk it up to luck and knowing how to handle the situation, but don't assume that the result would be the same every single time. Like pointed out, the YTCA and many experienced, respected breeders didn't get bored one day and come to the consensus that 12 weeks should be the standard age of release--it's a belief that derived from years of experience and research. (Not to mention that release at 6 wks is illegal in many states.) To think that one or even a handful of success stories with getting a pup earlier should overshadow and disprove that is ridiculous. I would hope that anyone advising those learning about this breed would base their advice on more than just one personal experience...or even several for that matter. |
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| | #54 |
| Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina
Posts: 8,317
| Here's a table that shows the puppy age sales law by state: http://www.animallaw.info/articles/o...ysaletable.htm |
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| | #55 |
| And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI
Posts: 17,928
| What if a pup was sold at 6-8 weeks and the owner goes to work for 8 hours a day. Kibble is left out but pup doesn't want to eat. Owner comes home to a dead pup from hypoglycemia. There is less chance of this happening at 12 weeks, so it is better for the pup. And if a breeder can't do something as simple as hold a pup til 12 weeks (10 or 11 might be okay but not optimal), then we can just about bet that they aren't bile acid testing parents, checking for LP...
__________________ Crystal , Ellie May (RIP) , Rylee Finnegan |
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| | #56 | |
| Its all about the yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Jersey
Posts: 1,451
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__________________ CHRISSY Nikki Precious Lizzy Mimi , Lena Taboo | |
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| | #57 | |
| Lovin' the Cali kisses! Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Lawrenceville, Georgia
Posts: 2,990
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There are always exceptions to every rule. But, you are not in the majority..
__________________ Larissa and Cali Let's go Georgia Bulldogs! | |
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| | #58 |
| Its all about the yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Jersey
Posts: 1,451
| I was at the vets office the other day and there was an 8 week old pup there having hypoglycemia problems
__________________ CHRISSY Nikki Precious Lizzy Mimi , Lena Taboo |
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| | #59 |
| No Longer a Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Seneca, SC
Posts: 2,837
| No, I've had dogs all my life(51 years)...she is totally different than the ones I've gotten younger..as I said, everyone has a preference, mine is to get them young, but, again, I am home 24/7 too |
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| | #60 | |
| Lovin' the Cali kisses! Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Lawrenceville, Georgia
Posts: 2,990
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__________________ Larissa and Cali Let's go Georgia Bulldogs! | |
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