Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1695030)

I just wanted to comment that I think it's interesting that the two people in this thread that have defended breeding mixes the most have bred mixed breed dogs on purpose. Of course, I don't blame you for defending it...if I was doing something, I'd probably defend it too.

Of course those puppies are adorable. I have to say I think most maltese/yorkie mixes are the cutest mixes because they are made from my two favorite breeds - the Yorkie and the Maltese. I've seen a lot of cute mixes. In fact, one of the cutest mixes I have ever seen was a pekingese/poodle mix named Martini. She looked more like a pekingese with the prettiest blonde hair. Cute cute cute baby! Loved her to death.

Another comment I have to make is that I can see a lot of people have a much more relaxed view of what a reputable breeder is than I do.

Originally Posted by RascalLucy (Post 1695173)

What is your view of a reputable breeder? Can you define what you mean by reputable breeder, then we can see if we are more "relaxed" in our views? Our view meaning people who like mixes and purebreds as well. I don't think it's fair to asume that people who do not agree with you have lower standards. I think that assumption is implied in your use of the word "relaxed".

Originally Posted by RascalLucy (Post 1695173)

What is your view of a reputable breeder? Can you define what you mean by reputable breeder, then we can see if we are more "relaxed" in our views? Our view meaning people who like mixes and purebreds as well. I don't think it's fair to asume that people who do not agree with you have lower standards. I think that assumption is implied in your use of the word "relaxed".

Originally Posted by 011011 (Post 1695301)

Wake up it's going to get where we can't have decent and healthy puppies even from the reputable breeder!!!!

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers
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We already cannot get decent and healthy puppies from reputable breeders.

Originally Posted by 011011 (Post 1695340)

Yes you can! I'm reputable! I know a lot of others that are reputable also!


I know you are and did not direct that personally to you but it is already happening. Good reputable breeders have problems that come along unhealthy pups etc many do and just not tell anyone .I do not think anyone has the perfect yorkie,but many can have very good stock and very healthy ones.

Originally Posted by hha (Post 1695450)

Okay..I'm being really nice here now! I'm going to say one thing, and that is to each his own..If people want to mix 2 purebreds, then so be it..this is American, people can do as they please...If people have a hard time accepting the so called designer dogs, then they can feel that way, and nothing is going to change that..Myself, I don't breed, BUT, if I did, and I wanted to mix two breeds, then I wouldn't really care what anyone thought..I would have the dogs tested and do what I wanted..op asked a question, most of us know how a lot of you feel....a lot of us DONT' feel the same(we're all individuals)..If 2 people breed 2 purebred dogs, at least they know what is in the breed..a lot of these dogs are heinz 57's(you have no clue as to how many breeds are in them..the thing is...now, a lot of dogs are just as cute as yorkies, if someone has $500 to spend(good luck on finding a beautiful yorkie for that that is by a "reputable breeder", they will take that $500 and buy a so called designer dog....just remember, to each his own....;)

Originally Posted by Nikki+2 (Post 1695477)

You're right. People are free to do anything they want. People are free to buy from pet stores, people are free to wear fur, people are free to breed 2 pound females, we've seen here at YT that people are even free to breed two puppies. You're right, to each his own, it is America.

Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 1695524)

oh and to add one more thing...to each his own...but remember ethics play a big part in everything...too bad some don't have strong enough ethics where it be in showing, breeding or even everyday life such as the workplace, marriage, raising kids....
Glad I know I can live with myself and have a clear conscience in my breeding practices...not saying most on this thread doesn't have it either but if the shoe fits....

Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 1695524)

oh and to add one more thing...to each his own...but remember ethics play a big part in everything...too bad some don't have strong enough ethics where it be in showing, breeding or even everyday life such as the workplace, marriage, raising kids....
Glad I know I can live with myself and have a clear conscience in my breeding practices...not saying most on this thread doesn't have it either but if the shoe fits....

Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 1695587)

What does someone's family life (marriage and children) have to do with a Morkie? I understand what you are TRYING to say, but you are wayyyyyyy off base to bring such personal things into a thread about DOGS. I think that it is great that you are proud of what kind of breeder you are and that you have a clear conscience in your program,but I don't understand why you had to make it about a person's family life.....

Oh well, I am done with this thread. Good luck to the OP in whatever decision you make....Morkie or not. :)

:confused:

Originally Posted by hha (Post 1695572)

I know, I raised 3 kids(all turned out very well), now, I have 2 g-kids, and a hubby of 31 years..and if I bred mixed bred dogs, I would still have a clear conscience, but, now, on the other hand, if I bred purebred dogs, and maybe charge $2000 and up, I probably would feel pretty bad about myself..:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1692653)

Of course mixes are cute. I love all dogs. But I will never condone breeding mixes on purpose. Any breeder that breeds mixes purposely is NOT a reputable breeder :thumbdown What's the purpose in breeding mixes? They are not a breed & don't have a standard so you can't breed "to improve the breed" which is the main reason to even think about breeding. The people breeding these dogs are not breeding for any purpose and are not trying to create a new breed - they are only breeding these dogs because they are unfortunately a fad right now and are selling for so much money. Reputable breeders breed to improve the breed & because they love the breed - no reputable breeder breeds mixes. And these "designer dogs" are NOT healthier than purebreds as some like to say. Many of our toy breeds share common genetic defects so these mixes are just as likely to get them as a purebred. You have a much higher chance of getting a healthy dog if you go to a reputable breeder that health screens their dogs. Any breeder (of purebreds or mixes) that doesn't screen their dogs has a higher chance of getting puppies with genetic defects. There is just no way I would support someone breeding mixes. There are so many unwanted animals in this world - millions die each year - and all these byb's are just contributing the the overpopulation. There are so many purebreds and "designer" mixes in shelters and rescue groups right now. If I wanted a mixed breed dog, I would adopt on through a rescue - but I can not condone those that breed them. If you want a mix, please adopt one that needs a home. Same things with a purebred I guess...I've seen you say that you don't care if your yorkie has papers - so why not adopt one? Please don't support bad breeders...find a reputable breeder that breeds for the right reasons or adopt one that needs a home.

Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 1695635)

I don't think I'm off base , ethics are ethics plain and simple...I was using the workplace, family thing as an example...because if you have ethics in those areas you should have ethics in breeding :)
Again, my opinion only...
Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 1695524)

oh and to add one more thing...to each his own...but remember ethics play a big part in everything...too bad some don't have strong enough ethics where it be in showing, breeding or even everyday life such as the workplace, marriage, raising kids....
Glad I know I can live with myself and have a clear conscience in my breeding practices...not saying most on this thread doesn't have it either but if the shoe fits....

Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 1695680)

I understood the comparison that you were trying to make and what I was saying is that is getting VERY personal. I knew where that would go and look,it has...people are getting very upset at your comparison. This is because, yes, it takes strong ethics to be a good honest breeder, but I still don't think that you bring people's children into a discussion about dogs. Like I said, I understand where you were trying to go with your comment, but you have to be very careful when you are talking about someone's marriage and especially their HUMAN babies! I don't know....just didn't think it was the best way to explain your breeding ethics, by using someone's marriage and children. :rolleyes:

Ok, I am now taking this off of my subscribed topics because I said I would not post anymore and yet, here I am. :rolleyes:

Tammy

Originally Posted by RascalLucy (Post 1695696)

So to go back to the orignal question"what do you guys think if a get a Morkie?" I think you better get a purebred yorkie ASAP so you are not thought of as an unfit mom with rotten kids, an unethical person (just in general), an unworthy wife and an unruly employee. (And from another post) I'm sure you have a fur or two somewhere in your closet. And you would not be able to continue living, your conscience would be too cloudy. Oh, and your uncomfortable shoes will finally fit you just right.
Sorry, when I looked at it this way I had to laugh. Not stated in a mean spirted way . Just looking at that post from a different view. I know it's silly, but the thought made me laugh. By the way, I own two purebred dogs with papers, but I like Morkies, too.

Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 1695707)

I like all dogs too! Funny thing is LOL my daughter isn't perfect and she's now raising a unruly child LOL I'm not taking your post as mean spirited :) But I will say this....some humans shouldn't breed either!!! LOL LOL LOL

Originally Posted by SgtPeppersMommy (Post 1695752)

I have a Morkie named Sarge. He looks exactly like a yorkie but that was purely luck...They are pretty unpredictable in appearance. I attached a picture of him, he's full grown now at 4 lbs.