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Old 01-03-2008, 05:55 AM   #16
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awww so stinking cute!!! I wish Guinness would lay down with my cocker Maggie. He just likes pouncing on her and she's been so patient (she's 14) but she stands up so he can't get to her face.

Your puppies are adorable
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Old 01-03-2008, 06:31 AM   #17
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Chicken Meal, Ground Yellow Corn, Ground Whole Wheat, Lamb Meal, Poultry Fat (preserved with natural mixed tocopherols, citric acid, and ascorbyl palmitate – a Vitamin C ester), Natural Flavors, Full–fat Soybeans, Oatmeal, Dried Beet Pulp, Fish Meal, Dried Eggs, Ground Flax Seeds, Dicalcium Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Salt, Dried Kelp, Choline Chloride, Brewers Dried Yeast, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Natural Antioxidants, Vitamin Supplements (E,A,B2,B12,D3), Niacin, Calcium Ascorbate, Calcium Pantothenate, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Inositol, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (source of Vitamin K activity), Folic Acid, Biotin, Zinc Proteinate, Zinc Oxide, Ferrous Sulfate, Iron Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Proteinate, Manganous Oxide, Cobalt Proteinate, Potassium Iodide, Sodium Selenite, Rosemary Extract.

Well - this may be your answer. CORN is the second ingredient! All of the ones in bold are considered either allergenic, poor quality fillers, and even a bit toxic (menadione). Any time you see menadione - that should be a major red flag as to the quality of the food AND the philosophy - it is a cheap, rather toxic way to get a Vitamin K derivative in the food - stay away!

If it were me, I would transition this pup off of the food asap and give something like Canidae or Nature's Variety, Innova, Wellness, Evangers etc.
Oh wow i will go buy some today now if i can just find somewhere that sells it we live in such a small hick town it is hard to find anything other than wal mart brand crap or eukanuba or iams The lady i got him from had him on it she said it was all she could get him to eat but i would have switched him a long time ago if i had known it was bad for him i feel terrible about it Does it come in canned or dry? I am asking because little Bella is eating it to and she has a really hard time with dry food. Another question can it be bought at pet smart? Because we have a pet smart about 30 minutes from here but other than that it is either wal mart or a couple little pet stores that only sale iams and eukanuba. And i want to say thank you thank you thank you because i would have never known i was giving him something bad if you hadn't told me. Even though i have tried to do research on dog food my brain just mumbles it up and i end up back at square one

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awww so stinking cute!!! I wish Guinness would lay down with my cocker Maggie. He just likes pouncing on her and she's been so patient (she's 14) but she stands up so he can't get to her face.

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wow 14 and she is that patient My 15 year old little something mix Chiquita may she R.I.P was far from patient with other dogs if a pup came near here she got hateful as could be and i was the only one she really wanted around her
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:50 AM   #19
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I went to the Canidae website and found a store about 45 minutes away i will go today and get some.
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Oh wow i will go buy some today now if i can just find somewhere that sells it we live in such a small hick town it is hard to find anything other than wal mart brand crap or eukanuba or iams The lady i got him from had him on it she said it was all she could get him to eat but i would have switched him a long time ago if i had known it was bad for him i feel terrible about it Does it come in canned or dry? I am asking because little Bella is eating it to and she has a really hard time with dry food. Another question can it be bought at pet smart? Because we have a pet smart about 30 minutes from here but other than that it is either wal mart or a couple little pet stores that only sale iams and eukanuba. And i want to say thank you thank you thank you because i would have never known i was giving him something bad if you hadn't told me. Even though i have tried to do research on dog food my brain just mumbles it up and i end up back at square one

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Sounds like you found some Canidae, yay! You can also find good foods online if you ever need to. Do you have any Feed stores near you? Bc feed stores often carry the premium kibbles. What do you mean Bella has a hard time w/ dry? You could pick up some premium canned too and add that in - good moisture too. I do hope your baby's eyes clear up after awhile - it may take a bit but I'd love to hear that the new food helped!
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excessive tears can also be from clogged tear ducts. the eyes water because they cannot properly drain. Your vet would be able to tell you if this is the problem and if it is he could flush them when your little one gets fixed.
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I cut the hair by his eyes so it isnt pokeing him, And i wipe his eyes with a mixure of half warm water half peroxide and comb the eye area out with a flea comb. Then I have an antobiotic cream to put in his eye that the vet gave me. If I do this every day his eyes look pretty good.
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Sounds like you found some Canidae, yay! You can also find good foods online if you ever need to. Do you have any Feed stores near you? Bc feed stores often carry the premium kibbles. What do you mean Bella has a hard time w/ dry? You could pick up some premium canned too and add that in - good moisture too. I do hope your baby's eyes clear up after awhile - it may take a bit but I'd love to hear that the new food helped!


Well yes and no i went and they said yes they do carry it but were out of stock but they had almost every brand that you had listed this place only carried all natural pet products which i think is great but anyways i bought wellness puppy dry food and canned and i also got my minpin wellness weight control (she is 10 lbs. but supposed to be 7lbs ) I have tried giving Bella the mix but she won't touch it little bugger. See up until we got her back she was being force fed with a syringe (goats milk mixed with eukanuba weaning food) because she would not eat on her own but then the little bugger got a wiff of the can food and started chowing down maybe it is just because she is being picky i don't know but i am going to keep trying the mix and hope she starts eating it. Also another problem with her is that she hardly drinks any water she kind of takes spells one day she will lap it up like crazy then the next she won't go near it.And no we no longer have any feed stores in our town they shut down about 5 years ago


She is supposed to be my daughters dog but with school and work i am always puppy sitting and when she won't eat or drink it scares me to death i am sure you could imagine.
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I tried to get him into the vet today but they were booked up so it will be next week before i can
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Remi's eyes ran and he had constant goobers so bad that when he would try to scratch at them, his nails would get caught and he would lay there and cry because his foot was stuck to his face. I finally trimmed all the hair around his eyes and the top of his nose and Voila! He has a clean face - well, as clean as it can be considering his face is usually stuck to the cat's butt or he's managed to get into the litter box(which is out of reach for Roxy so I have no clue how he makes it). Anyway, the goobers went away and his eyes quit tearing.
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I have been considering more and more shaving his i wasn't going to but everytime i turn around he has hair sticking in his eye poor little guy just not sure i want to try it myself the first time i will probably take him to the groomer and see how they do it (i am such a chicken)
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If you seen my other post about Bella then you already know Max was vet checked today and nothing the vet can find wrong with his eyes. Said that they is no infection nothing he does think that is might be a possibility that it is allergies and dry air so he told me to try baby benadryl 1 cc 3 times a day for 3-4 days and see what that does i am also going to get his hair shaved around that area to and to call back if the benadryl doesn't work. I am hoping with chaning his food and having him on benadryl and also shaving the eye area that it will stop.
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i bought wellness puppy dry food and canned and i also got my minpin wellness weight control (she is 10 lbs. but supposed to be 7lbs ) I have tried giving Bella the mix but she won't touch it little bugger. See up until we got her back she was being force fed with a syringe (goats milk mixed with eukanuba weaning food) because she would not eat on her own but then the little bugger got a wiff of the can food and started chowing down maybe it is just because she is being picky i don't know but i am going to keep trying the mix and hope she starts eating it. Also another problem with her is that she hardly drinks any water she kind of takes spells one day she will lap it up like crazy then the next she won't go near it.

She is supposed to be my daughters dog but with school and work i am always puppy sitting and when she won't eat or drink it scares me to death i am sure you could imagine.
Wellness is a good line of food ! Sounds like it's good that she is w/ you if your daughter is busy - bc from this post and your other post, she sounds high maintenance, little stinker - so it's good that you are so in tune w/ how she's doing.

If she is liking the canned - you could mix kibble in with it, or just feed canned. Also, add water TO the canned food and/or kibble - this will help get her more H20 as well. At her weight, extra water/food is good. How old is she again? If she's still quite young - I'd feed her every 4 hours if it were me - esp. w/ her other incident this morning.
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She is 8 1/2 weeks old now she eats like a little porker but like i said water is the problem. Why didn't i think of adding water to her food that is a great idea thank you! So feeding her just can food is okay? I have had so many people tell me that canned food was not good for a dogs teeth that they needed at least a mix of both but i have tried mixing and she won't touch the kibble she just eats the soft food off of it Now that is the problem i am having with max to i cannot get him to touch the kibble Yeah my daughter is very busy and i just got some heartbreaking news last night she is a senior in high school right now and when she goes off to college next year she has to stay in the dorm (all freshmen have to) and she said that mamaw (me) will have to take care of her while she is at school okay now i said heartbreaking because i am already getting attached to her and it kills me when i have to leave the house just to runt to the store and i have to leave her here but i can't even imagine i will have her all to myself for a year and then she is going to come back and take her away omg i can't believe i am crying just thinking about it
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If you want to grow the hair out on his muzzle then don't trim it, you can use vaseline (or even hair gel) and smooth it down so it isn't poking in his eyes. If you do intend on keeping his muzzle hair trimmed up then you could trim it now
hair gel won't bother their hair or skin??i didnt know that!! thanks!!
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