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Baby Madeleine · 12-16-2007, 10:39 AM

I'm glad he is doing better! Thank goodness for YT! You got some great advice

Nikki+2 · 12-16-2007, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Suzy

So glad to hear he's improved!!! I bet it was just too many new foods at once-at least if you know that's it, it's easy to change! I was so worried for you and for him! I am so glad you got that Pedialyte into him...it's not a bad thing for us all to keep on hand, I suppose...maybe I'll go and pick some up for us too!

I'm sure he was so happy to be able to camp out under the Christmas tree with you. It seems they always are extra snuggly when they don't feel good.

Once he's 48 hours or so diarrhea free, make sure to give him just a teaspoon or so of plain yogurt with probiotics. That should help to get his digestive system back on track. I'm not sure about plain or sweet potatoes-I would think the regular potatoes would be better to start with since they're starchy and more bland than sweet potatoes, but that's just my opinion...Wylie's mom, what do you advise?

Either way, until you know if it sits well with his tummy (and with your other dogs' tummies), you may want to make smaller batches when you're introducing new ingredients so you're not stuck with a lot of something that only one of them can eat.

Once again, so glad he's doing better!

Thanks! I need to put the yogurt on my list. He hadn't taken water today so I gave him some Pedialyte. He took a few little sips and wouldn't take anymore so I added a few spoonfuls of defatted chicken broth and he drank the whole thing. It was about a third of a custard cup so I'm relieved about that. I just wish that he'd poo. What a turnaround from yesterday.

Nikki+2 · 12-16-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Madeleine

I'm glad he is doing better! Thank goodness for YT! You got some great advice

You're telling me! I don't know how I would have gotten through yesterday without my YT friends.

Wylie's Mom · 12-16-2007, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikki+2

Should I start with white potatoes or sweet potatoes?

You could really do either one. Sweet potatoes are better nutritionally, so if he likes them - go for it! Squash is another really good carb for the little furbutts. But...one thing at a time as Sug gets back on track. Once you get him on fish for 2 weeks or so, you could try chicken again and see what happens - if bad things happen, at least you'd know the culprit. It's frustrating, but I'm so glad to hear he's doing better!

BLowry · 12-16-2007, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

It helps firm things up or "loosen" things up. It's more of a regulator, than an "instigator". It's the same for us humans - fiber can both help us "go" or help us....."stay". LOL. It's quite a little miracle substance, isn't it?

wow! I did not know that!! You learn something new everyday!!

Thanks!

sims822257 · 12-17-2007, 05:44 AM

OH no...poor Sugar man. Gees sorry Nikki I was not on YT all weekend since My sister and family flew in. I wish you would have called me.

I am happy he is feeling much better today and I am happy to hear you have an appointment with the new Holistic Vet. I am excited to hear what you think of her.

Did you guys get all the stains out of your carpets? You know I have that brand new Steam Vac if you need to borrow it.

How is little Sugar feeling today?

Nikki+2 · 12-17-2007, 05:53 AM

We have a steam vac so Troy was able to get it cleaned up. Last night I put him in the bedroom in an x pen lined with potty pads and he didn't go all night. He still isn't 100% but is firming up some. He wouldn't drink yesterday so after the Pedialyte/chicken broth I tried to give him some pumpkin. He ate a few licks but didn't like it so I mixed in some chicken broth and he gobbled it up. I don't have an appt. with the new vet yet. I have to call this morning. I have an appt with his regular vet today but hope the holistic vet can see him and I can cancel it.

I think if the holistic vet can see him anytime this week, I'm going to cancel the other appointment since he seems better. Wylie's mom, I went ahead and gave him the chicken because he used to be on Merrick Grammy's Pot Pie with no trouble so I figured chicken probably wasn't the culprit. Do you think he could have developed an allergy to it?

Nikki+2 · 12-17-2007, 05:55 AM

Ugg, I'm so confused. Maybe now that he's a little better I should just go ahead and switch to the fish and potatoes. I though that by keeping him on chicken I could rule it out but now I'm not sure. I'm also giving him some egg in the morning but mabe that's a mistake. The other 2 are perfectly fine, this is so frutrating!

Nikki+2 · 12-17-2007, 07:38 AM

Great news! The holisitc vet is seeing him at 1:00!

NewYorkieMom52 · 12-17-2007, 02:16 PM

I had the same problem when Georgia stole the doritos! I was so scared/ I mean you see blood and think OMG what could it be!!!!! And the vets are so relaxed with their advice..I got great advice from this forum and I was looking for the thread but could not find it quick enough to post here for you before I left work. But I just wanted you to know your not alone to worry and I wish the vet's would understand how that can scare moms like us.

Tinker'sMommy · 12-17-2007, 02:38 PM

Sorry your baby got sick, Glad to hear he is better

I pray for a full recovery

sims822257 · 12-17-2007, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikki+2

Great news! The holisitc vet is seeing him at 1:00!

OH 1:00pm today? If so how did it go?

Suzy · 12-17-2007, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sims822257

OH 1:00pm today? If so how did it go?

That was fast! Was the new vet any help? How does he feel about you homecooking?

Nikki+2 · 12-18-2007, 05:59 AM

The new vet was great. She was so nice and spent almost 50 minutes with me.

Her focus is on eastern philosophy which I am not all that familiar with so it was an interesting experience. I left thinking, hmmm, well we'll just see if this works. She is a DVM so is trained in traditional western medicine, she just has additional training in eastern medicine. She gave Sugar a thorough exam and checked his stool sample- all good. Then
she gave him a form of acupuncture . I can't remember what its called but she said its the best form for little dogs because they are usually wiggly and this form is way quicker. You use an acupuncture needle but instead of putting all of the needles into the acupuncture points at one time she used them in a syringe type thing and injected medicine into each pressure point of the abdomen one at a time. It took about 5 seconds and Sugar didn't even know anything was being done. She spent quite a long time discussing diet with me. SHe is an advocate of raw but said that home cooking is very good too. I am going to keep home cooking until his next appt. in Jan (rabies shot) and if I haven't gotten it down by then, I'm going to switch to raw. She also gave me 2 medicines to give him, Canine Enteric Support, which is a holistic medicine for digestive problems and Curing Pill, which is a blend of Chinese herbs used for digestive problems.
Okay, here's what she told me about food. If you're not familiar with eastern medicine (which I'm not), this will sound a little out there. I just decided to have an open mind and see what happens. For those of you who know eastern philosophy, please correct me if I explain this wrong- I'm still learning. Animals as well as humans have an element. Most yorkies are fire (lively, friendly, affectionate). She said Sugar is wood (decisive, assertive, impulsive). Both elements are yang or hot. Hot animals need cold food. Not cold as in the temperature but she gave me a chart showing which foods are hot, cold or neutral. Chicken and white rice are both hot- something he's had a lot of.
So last night and this morning I gave him foods from the cold list- fish and potatoes (surprise Wylie's mom!

). SHe also told me leafy greens will help with his eyes running because she's not a fan of Angel Eyes for long term use since it's an antibiotic.
Well like I said, it was all very new to me but I really liked her beliefs on a lot of things like not over medicating and over vaccinating so I figured I'd give it a chance.
Here's the good news- Sugar didn't go all night and this morning he had a perfectly normal poo!

I am assuming it is too early to attribute it wholly to the food or medicines and think the acupuncture did the trick. With this success, she has won me over so far. I'm going to stick with the fish and potatoes until I'm sure he's back to normal and then add turkey and brown rice and take it from there.

sims822257 · 12-18-2007, 06:04 AM

OH wow Nikki....what a great review. I am definately making an appointment with her after Christmas. I am so curious what she has to say about Murphy and Mia especially Murphy since he has the seizures.

How cool.

Thank you and thank goodness Sugar is okay. The bloody stool was scaring me.

12-16-2007, 10:39 AM	#31
Baby Madeleine Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stuart, Florida Posts: 1,094	I'm glad he is doing better! Thank goodness for YT! You got some great advice __________________ Monica and Madeleine Member of the Spoiled Rotten Club

12-17-2007, 05:44 AM	#36
sims822257 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 3,436	OH no...poor Sugar man. Gees sorry Nikki I was not on YT all weekend since My sister and family flew in. I wish you would have called me. I am happy he is feeling much better today and I am happy to hear you have an appointment with the new Holistic Vet. I am excited to hear what you think of her. Did you guys get all the stains out of your carpets? You know I have that brand new Steam Vac if you need to borrow it. How is little Sugar feeling today? __________________ Caren, mommy to Murphy and Mia Murphy WUVS his girlfriend Trixie

12-17-2007, 05:53 AM	#37
Nikki+2 I heart Sugar Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 7,373	We have a steam vac so Troy was able to get it cleaned up. Last night I put him in the bedroom in an x pen lined with potty pads and he didn't go all night. He still isn't 100% but is firming up some. He wouldn't drink yesterday so after the Pedialyte/chicken broth I tried to give him some pumpkin. He ate a few licks but didn't like it so I mixed in some chicken broth and he gobbled it up. I don't have an appt. with the new vet yet. I have to call this morning. I have an appt with his regular vet today but hope the holistic vet can see him and I can cancel it. I think if the holistic vet can see him anytime this week, I'm going to cancel the other appointment since he seems better. Wylie's mom, I went ahead and gave him the chicken because he used to be on Merrick Grammy's Pot Pie with no trouble so I figured chicken probably wasn't the culprit. Do you think he could have developed an allergy to it? __________________ "If you have men who will exclude any of God’s creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men." — St. Francis of Assisi, 1181-1226

12-17-2007, 05:55 AM	#38
Nikki+2 I heart Sugar Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 7,373	Ugg, I'm so confused. Maybe now that he's a little better I should just go ahead and switch to the fish and potatoes. I though that by keeping him on chicken I could rule it out but now I'm not sure. I'm also giving him some egg in the morning but mabe that's a mistake. The other 2 are perfectly fine, this is so frutrating! __________________ "If you have men who will exclude any of God’s creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men." — St. Francis of Assisi, 1181-1226

12-17-2007, 07:38 AM	#39
Nikki+2 I heart Sugar Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 7,373	Great news! The holisitc vet is seeing him at 1:00! __________________ "If you have men who will exclude any of God’s creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men." — St. Francis of Assisi, 1181-1226

12-17-2007, 02:16 PM	#40
NewYorkieMom52 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 201 Blog Entries: 1	Bloody Stools I had the same problem when Georgia stole the doritos! I was so scared/ I mean you see blood and think OMG what could it be!!!!! And the vets are so relaxed with their advice..I got great advice from this forum and I was looking for the thread but could not find it quick enough to post here for you before I left work. But I just wanted you to know your not alone to worry and I wish the vet's would understand how that can scare moms like us.

12-17-2007, 02:38 PM	#41
Tinker'sMommy YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fort Hood, Texas Posts: 2,107	Sorry your baby got sick, Glad to hear he is better I pray for a full recovery __________________ TINKERBELL, CHIQUITO, AND MOMMY MICKIE

12-18-2007, 05:59 AM	#44
Nikki+2 I heart Sugar Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 7,373	The new vet was great. She was so nice and spent almost 50 minutes with me. Her focus is on eastern philosophy which I am not all that familiar with so it was an interesting experience. I left thinking, hmmm, well we'll just see if this works. She is a DVM so is trained in traditional western medicine, she just has additional training in eastern medicine. She gave Sugar a thorough exam and checked his stool sample- all good. Then she gave him a form of acupuncture . I can't remember what its called but she said its the best form for little dogs because they are usually wiggly and this form is way quicker. You use an acupuncture needle but instead of putting all of the needles into the acupuncture points at one time she used them in a syringe type thing and injected medicine into each pressure point of the abdomen one at a time. It took about 5 seconds and Sugar didn't even know anything was being done. She spent quite a long time discussing diet with me. SHe is an advocate of raw but said that home cooking is very good too. I am going to keep home cooking until his next appt. in Jan (rabies shot) and if I haven't gotten it down by then, I'm going to switch to raw. She also gave me 2 medicines to give him, Canine Enteric Support, which is a holistic medicine for digestive problems and Curing Pill, which is a blend of Chinese herbs used for digestive problems. Okay, here's what she told me about food. If you're not familiar with eastern medicine (which I'm not), this will sound a little out there. I just decided to have an open mind and see what happens. For those of you who know eastern philosophy, please correct me if I explain this wrong- I'm still learning. Animals as well as humans have an element. Most yorkies are fire (lively, friendly, affectionate). She said Sugar is wood (decisive, assertive, impulsive). Both elements are yang or hot. Hot animals need cold food. Not cold as in the temperature but she gave me a chart showing which foods are hot, cold or neutral. Chicken and white rice are both hot- something he's had a lot of. So last night and this morning I gave him foods from the cold list- fish and potatoes (surprise Wylie's mom! ). SHe also told me leafy greens will help with his eyes running because she's not a fan of Angel Eyes for long term use since it's an antibiotic. Well like I said, it was all very new to me but I really liked her beliefs on a lot of things like not over medicating and over vaccinating so I figured I'd give it a chance. Here's the good news- Sugar didn't go all night and this morning he had a perfectly normal poo! I am assuming it is too early to attribute it wholly to the food or medicines and think the acupuncture did the trick. With this success, she has won me over so far. I'm going to stick with the fish and potatoes until I'm sure he's back to normal and then add turkey and brown rice and take it from there. __________________ "If you have men who will exclude any of God’s creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men." — St. Francis of Assisi, 1181-1226

12-18-2007, 06:04 AM	#45
sims822257 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 3,436	OH wow Nikki....what a great review. I am definately making an appointment with her after Christmas. I am so curious what she has to say about Murphy and Mia especially Murphy since he has the seizures. How cool. Thank you and thank goodness Sugar is okay. The bloody stool was scaring me. __________________ Caren, mommy to Murphy and Mia Murphy WUVS his girlfriend Trixie