Is This a Biewer Yorkie??? - Page 2 - YorkieTalk.com Forums

Sherry Lynn · 06-30-2005, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by whispersmom2

I frankly cannot tell if it is a Biewer. The lighting and pics are extremely poor quality--maybe that is intentional. I cannot even really tell that is is a parti or tri color. No matter..it looks sickly and nothing like the probably 20 Biewer puppies I have seen. I have 3 myself and Pat has one. I have friends who have several and nothing looks like that. If anyone really wants to see a Biewer puppy worth maybe $3500.00-NOT $10,000.00--LET ME KNOW. I will ask Villette to post a few for me..
WOC has been busted more times than enough..They have been discussed badly in most other forums--any breed..

At the risk of sounding stupid ( however I am a Newbie! ) What is a Biewer, and what would make it worth so much more?? AND if they are worth so much more why are they pimping it out? Wouldn't people be knocking their doors down???

red98vett · 06-30-2005, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherry Lynn

At the risk of sounding stupid ( however I am a Newbie! ) What is a Biewer, and what would make it worth so much more?? AND if they are worth so much more why are they pimping it out? Wouldn't people be knocking their doors down???

Here's Whispersmom2's album link - http://www.yorkietalk.com/gallery/sh...500&ppuser=681

[QUOTE=Missy's Mommy]I was thinking the same thing, but was hoping you'd post since you would be more experienced to tell if that was a Biewer than I.

I was thinking the same thing - I can't judge the looks either because there are so few of them.....but Wizard of Claws is one site/broker everyone needs to be warned to stay away from - I'm sure some people have had healthy puppies from them - but man ...are they bad news.

LvMyYorki · 06-30-2005, 04:40 PM

The eyes look weird too!

Thanks for clearing that up Rini! I knew you would be able to tell!

SoCalyorkiLvr · 06-30-2005, 05:10 PM

Could she tell? Was it yes or a no? Soem tri-colors look like Biewers and are actually just partis I guess since they didn't come directly from the Biewer line. What is it Rini when a Biewer is bred with an American Tri-color?

whispersmom2 · 06-30-2005, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LvMyYorki

The eyes look weird too!

Thanks for clearing that up Rini! I knew you would be able to tell!

Thanx. I have laughed at all of the messages I have gotten from across the country saying..did you see that poor thing on WOC?? They will find someone who will buy it, probably an idiot star..
IMO, a well-bred AKC registered black and tan with Parti markings,,that is how AKC registers them..should be as valuable as a Biewer of equal markings and texture. My guy, Remi, a parti color, has markings that look very much like Ilsa my Biewer female. As Villette said, they are on my album..at least, some of them..

Sherry Lynn · 06-30-2005, 05:17 PM

[QUOTE=red98vett]Here's Whispersmom2's album link - http://www.yorkietalk.com/gallery/sh...500&ppuser=681

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Originally Posted by Missy's Mommy

I was thinking the same thing, but was hoping you'd post since you would be more experienced to tell if that was a Biewer than I.

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Originally Posted by Missy's Mommy

I was thinking the same thing - I can't judge the looks either because there are so few of them.....but Wizard of Claws is one site/broker everyone needs to be warned to stay away from - I'm sure some people have had healthy puppies from them - but man ...are they bad news.

OMG HOW ADORABLE!! But then to me they all are!

I could look at these pictures all day and judging by the others on this site I'm not alone! Again the newbie in me has to ask what creates these little babies?

StewiesMom · 06-30-2005, 05:18 PM

I was going to say that the lighting looks intentional. the puppy looks sickly, greasy and very very young.

SoCalyorkiLvr · 06-30-2005, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by whispersmom2

IMO, a well-bred AKC registered black and tan with Parti markings,,that is how AKC registers them..should be as valuable as a Biewer of equal markings and texture. My guy, Remi, a parti color, has markings that look very much like Ilsa my Biewer female. As Villette said, they are on my album..at least, some of them..

Can they be shown as a Biewer?

LvMyYorki · 06-30-2005, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalyorkiLvr

Could she tell? Was it yes or a no?

When Rini posted this:
" frankly cannot tell if it is a Biewer. The lighting and pics are extremely poor quality--maybe that is intentional. I cannot even really tell that is is a parti or tri color. No matter..it looks sickly and nothing like the probably 20 Biewer puppies I have seen. I have 3 myself and Pat has one. I have friends who have several and nothing looks like that. "

That made it clear to me b/c that statement is coming from someone that breeds Yorkies and owns both Partis and Beiwers... If she can't tell then that says ALOT!

b_veselka · 06-30-2005, 06:57 PM

I have heard a lot of really bad things about the Wizard of CLAWS!!!!

ssguzzy828 · 06-30-2005, 07:00 PM

Geez for 10,000.00 Ill fly to germany and buy 3 biewers and fly back home. lol

myorkiebabies · 07-01-2005, 02:01 AM

So is wizard of claws a puppymill or a broker?
I agree with everyone here.You figure for 10g they could've afford better lighting and a close-up shot.They sure have alot of puppy for sale.They must be a puppymill or somewhat like that.

Whispersmom2:I love your yorkies,they are adorable.When I thought of Biewer that's what I had in mind.

myorkiebabies · 07-01-2005, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ssguzzy828

Geez for 10,000.00 Ill fly to germany and buy 3 biewers and fly back home. lol

I agree,,, How about I go with you

Julie1 · 07-01-2005, 02:06 AM

I don't like the idea of the WOC link being on this forum we are giving them free publicity !

wnalegria · 07-01-2005, 04:45 AM

Who really knows the parentage of the puppy really is. $10,000.00 is way too much of a asking price. Will the puppy sale? Asking prices for some nice Biewers are around $3,500.00 with fulll registartion on a female. Yep there are a lot of folks out there with more money then brains. Just look at the postings on this website- the puppies that members want you to critique or they are bragging about purchasing. Many of these puppies are priced more at 6-8 weeks of age then nice puppies from serious breeders- who are trying to breed sound, healthy, happy babies that are 3 months to 6 months of age.

It seems like common sense hits the door when some folks look for a puppy.
Yorkies become very addicting and when you get in that purchase mode- part of your brain tells you no- but the other weak half tells you do it- take a chance. You take that chance and then 3 months later- you look back and say what was I thinking.

wnalegria

06-30-2005, 04:40 PM	#18
LvMyYorki Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 1,181	The eyes look weird too! Thanks for clearing that up Rini! I knew you would be able to tell! __________________ Tara, Tino & Diva Bunny Diva Bunny: http://www.dogster.com/?141104 Rudolph Valentino: http://www.dogster.com/?76963

06-30-2005, 05:18 PM	#22
StewiesMom Stewie Rox the Sox Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 6,306	I was going to say that the lighting looks intentional. the puppy looks sickly, greasy and very very young. __________________ Kristy & Stewie

06-30-2005, 06:57 PM	#25
b_veselka Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Texas Posts: 307	I have heard a lot of really bad things about the Wizard of CLAWS!!!! __________________ Beth Veselka

07-01-2005, 02:01 AM	#27
myorkiebabies Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hilo,HI Posts: 225	So is wizard of claws a puppymill or a broker? I agree with everyone here.You figure for 10g they could've afford better lighting and a close-up shot.They sure have alot of puppy for sale.They must be a puppymill or somewhat like that. Whispersmom2:I love your yorkies,they are adorable.When I thought of Biewer that's what I had in mind. __________________ NIKKI

07-01-2005, 04:45 AM	#30
wnalegria Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Indianapolis Indiana Posts: 815	What is this puppy? Who really knows the parentage of the puppy really is. $10,000.00 is way too much of a asking price. Will the puppy sale? Asking prices for some nice Biewers are around $3,500.00 with fulll registartion on a female. Yep there are a lot of folks out there with more money then brains. Just look at the postings on this website- the puppies that members want you to critique or they are bragging about purchasing. Many of these puppies are priced more at 6-8 weeks of age then nice puppies from serious breeders- who are trying to breed sound, healthy, happy babies that are 3 months to 6 months of age. It seems like common sense hits the door when some folks look for a puppy. Yorkies become very addicting and when you get in that purchase mode- part of your brain tells you no- but the other weak half tells you do it- take a chance. You take that chance and then 3 months later- you look back and say what was I thinking. wnalegria

06-30-2005, 05:10 PM	#19
SoCalyorkiLvr BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,246	Could she tell? Was it yes or a no? Soem tri-colors look like Biewers and are actually just partis I guess since they didn't come directly from the Biewer line. What is it Rini when a Biewer is bred with an American Tri-color?

06-30-2005, 07:00 PM	#26
ssguzzy828 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: south suburbs of illinois Posts: 734	Geez for 10,000.00 Ill fly to germany and buy 3 biewers and fly back home. lol

07-01-2005, 02:06 AM	#29
Julie1 YT Addict Join Date: May 2005 Location: Surrey Posts: 333	I don't like the idea of the WOC link being on this forum we are giving them free publicity !