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kjk723 06-02-2007 06:25 PM

I heard the leash thing is a good idea too! I think it does help to train both owner and dog.. I know sometimes when GiGi has accidents it is because i am so lax with her. My husky goes out three times a day... And she needs to go out more. She is crate trained but it is so hard to put her in there but that is what she needs every once in awhile to really enforce that she has to go outside. When she starts to get lazy and doesnt go on peepad. I will keep her crated for a few days(not the whole few days!!) just while I am away and that has worked wonders for her.

pea496 06-02-2007 06:47 PM

I thought my little Conner would never be potty trained. We would let him out of his crate to spend time with us at night, and as soon as we turned our backs on him, he would go into another room to pee. My husband certainly thought he would never be potty trained. He never went in his crate, but he would have his favorite spots on the hardwood floors. I would put a belly band on him when he went on the floor. I would keep it on him until the next time I took him outside to go potty. He did not like the belly band. When I put it on him, he would go to his bed, and stay there for a while. Finally, he got the idea that he did not get the belly band on when he did his business outside (we also have a code word to tell him to go - we tell him to "get busy").

Maybe you could get some panties for your baby and keep them on her until it is time to go potty.

bren 06-02-2007 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mistyinca (Post 1156623)
I can spot a few things going wrong just from your post alone...

First, If your house is "smelling like s**t" that is a big problem right there. You need to erase the poop and pee when it happens, or it is a marker telling your dog that that is the place to potty. Get yourself some neutralizer. Petsmart sells one called "Nature's miracle". Follow the directions and immediately clean up the mistake.

Second, if you take her outside, are you standing with her and watching to see if she goes? If no, put her on a leash. STand out there and say "go pee pee" and you wait until it happens. If yes, then make her do it a second time.

Third, you say she comes right in and pees right in front of you. If the second thing I pointed out doesn't take care of it. You startle her while she's peeing. Your purpose is NOT--I repeat--NOT to stop that instance of peeing from hitting your floor (too late for that at that moment) but it is to tell her that what she is doing right there is WRONG. So clap at her or rattle a can or shout "NO!" when she pees right in front of you; IMMEDIATELY take her outside, put her on the grass (on the leash) and tell her go pee pee. Don't let her come back in until she does it. Then praise. At this point, if she pees outside, forget the bad that happened in the house. Praise praise praise that she peed outside--even if some pee happened in the house. And clean up and neutralize the pee that happened.

Fourth. Never let her be out of your sight. Put her in the crate when you can't be watching her--with CLEAN bedding all the time. Don't let her get comfortable if peeing in her crate is a problem. Keep it clean so she begins to prefer it clean. Dogs by nature do not like to sleep or eat where the potty.

Finally, start scheduling potty breaks. If every two hours isn't keeping potty off the floor, go every hour. It will get better eventually, but you have to be consistent, and you have to be on it.

These are all excellent suggestions. Be very consistent in using them for housebreaking. Yorkies are VERY difficult to housebreak and since she's only 6 months old, I think your expectations are a bit high at this point. Keep doing the above suggestions and be consistent with it and she'll catch on eventually. All yorkies are different and they can be housebroken at different times but the key is consistency.

I trained Max to go outside. He is 3 years old and he still has accidents in the house. I trained Abbie using pee pads first. She caught on really quickly. Then eventually she started going outside. She is completely housebroken but she wasn't consistent until she was about 9 months old (she's 2 years old right now.)

Mitzis Mom 06-02-2007 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by laurabelle (Post 1156287)
I knew she was going to be hard to train, I'd heard that a zillion times. I just didn't expect her to be this hard I guess. I donno. I love her and am willing to wait it out and keep trying but I have way more patience than my fiance does. He said we'll have to get through the wedding at the end of the month and see how much money we have and see about putting her in a potty training class or something. I donno. I'm not ready to get rid of her yet, she makes me so happy other than this. She is the perfect dog other than housebreaking. I'm just so frustrated.

Hmmmm.... I'm married the 4th time and know a thing or two about relationships... and taking the risk of getting slammed... but maybe the problems between you and your fiance with your Yorkie now could show you how it's going to be when you have skin kids... Also, how about diapers? It would solve the problem of the smell and the stains....

BTW... Mitzi is 10 y.o. and NOT housebroken! We don't have a lot of "accidents" in the house b/c I am well trained and keep her on a strict schedule. I also developed a kind of "sixth sense"... Good luck and please don't blame yourself!

Gingergirlsmom 06-02-2007 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mistyinca (Post 1156623)
I can spot a few things going wrong just from your post alone...

First, If your house is "smelling like s**t" that is a big problem right there. You need to erase the poop and pee when it happens, or it is a marker telling your dog that that is the place to potty. Get yourself some neutralizer. Petsmart sells one called "Nature's miracle". Follow the directions and immediately clean up the mistake.

Second, if you take her outside, are you standing with her and watching to see if she goes? If no, put her on a leash. STand out there and say "go pee pee" and you wait until it happens. If yes, then make her do it a second time.

Third, you say she comes right in and pees right in front of you. If the second thing I pointed out doesn't take care of it. You startle her while she's peeing. Your purpose is NOT--I repeat--NOT to stop that instance of peeing from hitting your floor (too late for that at that moment) but it is to tell her that what she is doing right there is WRONG. So clap at her or rattle a can or shout "NO!" when she pees right in front of you; IMMEDIATELY take her outside, put her on the grass (on the leash) and tell her go pee pee. Don't let her come back in until she does it. Then praise. At this point, if she pees outside, forget the bad that happened in the house. Praise praise praise that she peed outside--even if some pee happened in the house. And clean up and neutralize the pee that happened.

Fourth. Never let her be out of your sight. Put her in the crate when you can't be watching her--with CLEAN bedding all the time. Don't let her get comfortable if peeing in her crate is a problem. Keep it clean so she begins to prefer it clean. Dogs by nature do not like to sleep or eat where the potty.

Finally, start scheduling potty breaks. If every two hours isn't keeping potty off the floor, go every hour. It will get better eventually, but you have to be consistent, and you have to be on it.


Great advice. Ginger goes potty on command outside and it's a lifesaver.

As for keeping the crate clean, here's what we did.

Gather up all your old used towels (or buy cheap ones at dollar general), so that you have several (enough to change everytime she pees in the crate for a day) and use as bedding. They are absorbent, go into the wash and clean up nicely, etc.

Also, use a neutralizer to scrub out the crate each time, and I bleached my towels when I washed them to make sure the smell was gone.

Make certain her crate is the right size, enough room to sit up, turn around and lay down, and that's it...for potty training they need little crates.

Good luck

laurabelle 06-02-2007 07:34 PM

We have a skin baby! We're good parents. Skin babies to him I guess are different. To him it's his own flesh and blood, Sasha to him is an overly expensive dog that he doesn't have patience for.

I definitely think I'm going to be ordering some panties. Besides, they're cute. She'll probably hate them, just like she hates any other clothes or bows, but maybe that will help her learn better.

Grayson's mom 06-02-2007 07:40 PM

Grayson is about 80% trained and almost a year old I get frustrated but we keep working.

Good luck to you

Dan & Corinne 06-02-2007 08:53 PM

This is a little off topic but I was a little taken aback with the choice of words used in the original thread. I understand it was written with frustration but the point of the thread would have been just as clear without them.

Just my opinion.

mistyinca 06-02-2007 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Donna Jean (Post 1156607)
I agree, she is the wrong breed for you!!!! Most people love their yorkies so much they can handle a mistake, this breed is the most difficult to house train, and most people who own them, do not have a fit if the baby makes some mistakes, you need to be dogless!!!! You are too young to be comitted to the training it takes to get your yorkie to please you.
I feel so bad for your poor yorkie! She must be a nervous wrek, and doesn't know what to do to please you, you have not been consistant, try this, try that, i think you need to be trained on how to train your yorkie, than learn to train your dog! Better yet, please get a great home for her with calm older people who have the paitence to work with her. They can not hold their bladders till 6 mos. old, and they have to work at holding their bladders, you are expecting a lot from a tiny yorkie baby! You do not love her enough to teach her. She will be much better off with a more mature adult!

OK...this was totally out of line--and wrong too. They are not "the most difficult to housetrain." Neither is it true that they can't hold their bladders until 6 months. My Chloe has been housebroken since she was 5 months old (using the methods I described in my last post in this thread).

She is venting here and frustrated, that doesn't mean she's being bad to her dog. So lighten up!

TeddyandTiffy 06-02-2007 09:08 PM

My dad told me when we 1st got Teddy 2.5 years ago that a dog will NOT pee where he/she sleeps...Well I thought yeah right dad U never had my dogs...YORKIES!!!!!!!! Well he is 100% RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!! LISTEN TO MY DAD!!!!!!! See they have to get older before they can learn to control their holding patterns!!! Really. Teddy, Tiffanie are 2.5 years old now and don't pees/poops in their crates ever!!!!! Sir. Galahad is 13 months old and he never pees/poops in his crate either....I suggest U crate her @ night (I do all 3 of mine, have since day 1) and crate her when U leave, sure she will yelp, cry, moan and go on, but she'll live. I don't mean put her in a dog carrier, I mean crate her. Dog carriers are VERY VERY Dangerous for YORKIES to be crated in!!!!!!! My Sisters Benji Yorkie, was in one while she ran to the store, got back and his nose was stuck in the metal door, it had swollen that fast, where he was fightin' it to get out. They had to cut the metal with plyers from his nose. My puppies (Tiffanie's 1st litter) learned to not to go potty in their crate, sure U'll get up or come home to messes but hey that's part of it, they will get the hang of it. And I have to say U must have patience with her...YELLING, SCREAMING, HOLLERING won't help it will only set her nerves on edge and she'll go more, FEAR isn't good for ANY dog to feel about their owner!!!!!!!!! Please understand it isn't her fault she's still learning and just a baby!!!!!! Guess what my Tiffanie now is 2.5 and she has accidents, she is carrying babies and I think they must lay on her bladder, then once she pees guess what again.....My 2 boys.... age 2.5 and 13 months (ALL 3 Potty Trained!!!!!!!!!) come right over top of her pee and do their MARKING!!!!!! Oh yeah so do I YELL @ her NO I just clean it up and tell them bad and take them out. Then old Lee here put them in diffrent rooms, put Tiffanie in the living room and Teddy, Sir. Galahd in the kitchen....GUESS WHAT!!!!!!!! NO peeing from ANY OF THEM...... Amazing what a little change can do. So now I take them out every 2 hours with Sir. Galahad. Take her out once an hour, sure it's hard but that's what we Yorkie lovers must do to help our babies learn, if she comes in and pees, crate her for a few minutes, now @ 13 months Sir. Galahad can hold his about 2 hours, I take the older ones out normally (When Tiffanie isn't with puppies) @ 8 am, (Sir. Galahd @ 10 am), all 3 @ noon, then all 3 @ 3 pm (They all nap uncrated from 1 to 3, and Sir. Galahad holds his then don't ask me why but he does) (Sir. Galahd 4:30 to 5 pm) All 3 @ 7 pm and then all 3 around 9 to 10 pm then it's night time around 11 pm and NONE of them pee or poop in their crates from 11 pm to 8 or even 9 am (If no one is up then they will wait until one of us are up then here they go whining to go out and yes I let them out before I get me even dressed). Well I wish U the best just take U're time and give her a chance...She'll grow into it and I will tell U that from experience with our last litter...BOYS are 100% easier to puppy pad train then GIRLS our girls went anywhere and everywhere, boys right on the pad!!!!!! Maybe it's just our girls but well see with this litter. And our puppies are started both puppy pad and outside trained before they leave our house, it's up to the new mommies and daddies to keep up the work!!!!!! That's sometimes the trouble not the puppy, the owners!!! Trust me, Look @ mine since Tiffanie is gonna have babies, our Yorkies always change!!!!!!!! Hugs, Lee

xBUTTERCUPx 06-02-2007 09:18 PM

I think what she needs is a strict schedule. I'm not really good at this potty training stuff. I was lucky enough to find a puppy that was already housebroken that's why I hesistate to get another one all the time because of potty training issues and 'rumors' about yorkies being difficult to train, etc. etc.

xxmxaxrxyxx 06-03-2007 12:37 AM

aww sorry to read about your frustration..and everyone has been thru it...and whatever you decide to do i wish you the best of luck...

my rule when it comes to housebreaking is ...consistency...hope that helps!

Booboo'smommy 06-03-2007 02:17 AM

Sorry about my post earlier. I know you just want to vet. I was only giving my oppinion by saying that I would never say I want to get rid of my baby just b/c they are not potty trained. But if your b/f does not have the patience it takes to care for a yorkie that makes things a lot harder for you. I know you love your yorkie and it's completely ok to vent just like ''Doodlebug'' said in a previous post. I hope you will be able to potty train her soon, just so she doesn't create more problems between you and your b/f as that would make things worse. Wishing you the best of luck and may God give your partener the patience he needs.
Maria

sweetr72 06-03-2007 04:08 AM

I think its a little frustating for EVERYONE when our dogs arent housebroken after working with them so hard and no one ENJOYS cleaning up accidents lol...I know there are times that I think all is well and I turn around to find an accident...luckily we have a carpet cleaner but still it is frustrating. Of course our love for our babies outweighs the frustration as does your love for Sasha Im sure...I know at one point or another I probably felt like I couldnt do it and should give up but now its just routine...my babies are 99.9% housebroken now...just wait it out it does get better!! Previous posters gave very valuable information though on methods that are really good...

I think posters have to remember to read the WHOLE thread before posting sometimes. I read many times "wait until your husband and you have skin kids" and I kept thinking..cant they read her signature or the fact that she posted that they DO have a skin kid lol...

Anyone who says they havent gotten frustrated before with housebreaking is a saint lol...and just because you are venting does not mean this is the wrong breed for you....thats your call...

I have a son named Colin too by the way!!

Wylie's Mom 06-03-2007 04:44 AM

Mistyinca gave some GREAT advice - as have many others. So, I'm not going to add anything else. But I did want to say good luck, take some deep breaths, and have faith that she WILL get there.

My Wylie, god forbid, took almost TWO years to completely get it - and it was incredibly frustrating. I think his breeder left him in unclean conditions, so he learned very, very young that potty was okay everywhere, even laying in it. Marcel came from a superb breeder - and the difference in training has been night and day.

So, even though your baby may be more like Wylie - just know that she will eventually get it; but also try and make peace with the sucky fact that it is going to take a TON of work...but it's worth it, my friend!

kandy313 06-03-2007 05:42 AM

I got Bizkit when he was 7 weeks old and before i let him on my floor for the first time i made him pee on a puppy pad and that worked for a long time,he always went back to it. but for the last few months he has been going anywhere. so i have made the appointment to get him neutered and i really hope that helps. he seems to love to hike his leg and let the trash can have it. i do not have carpet but he will go on the rugs so i have removed all of them for now too. he is my baby and i love him very much. so whatever i have to go through with him is worth it... stressful sometimes but he gives alot of love and i give it back to him. be patient yorkies demand alot of attention.

chattiesmom 06-03-2007 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by laurabelle (Post 1156184)
If something doesn't change. I really think she is un-potty-trainable. I donno what else to do with her. I know I've bitched about this several times on here and gotten such good advice and nothing has helped. She is 6 months old now and we've had her for 4 months and it's just not working. Sure, she goes potty every time we go outside, but she'll run back inside and then 5 minutes later piss right in front of your face. She's gotten better at holding it but she still does not let us know when she needs to go, and so we will sometimes miss it and then that doesn't help, because if it's my fault I feel like I can't get mad at her for it. We've tried treats when she goes outside, punishment, ignoring it and just working on praising her when she does it right, confinement, everything. It does no good at all to crate her because she pees in her crate. She'll pee in her crate, sleep in it, get up in the morning, potty outside, come inside, and potty right in front of you. She has no shame. The only thing she tries to hide is if she poops in the house.

I'm losing it. My fiance and I are fighting over her, he wants her gone and I don't want to get rid of her. But neither of us are okay with our house smelling like s**t. I am not going to let this 5 pound dog destroy my house or my relationships! I am at my rope's end.

I have not read all the posts that came after this one -- I am responding to your "vent" and initial post . If the amount of stress that the Yorkie brings into your home outweighs the love and joy -- then you should rehome her. She will adapt and be happy and you will "get over it" and be happy. You are entirely right, a 5 lb. dog should not destroy your house and relationships.

Sometimes life just hurts and we have to make hard decisions- my heart aches for you. I wish you the very best, both with your future marriage and with whatever decisions you might have to make. Sending hugs, sweetie, I hope things get better for you :ghug:

kandy313 06-03-2007 07:50 AM

I just found this on the internet and wondering if anyone has tried this

http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html...sin=B0009PM2MU

xBUTTERCUPx 06-03-2007 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kandy313 (Post 1157477)
I just found this on the internet and wondering if anyone has tried this

http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html...sin=B0009PM2MU

I've tried it. It works really well. NO more wet doggie feet on your carpet and it also helps the pad from being torn or chewed up.

RMKC 06-03-2007 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Lorraine (Post 1156210)
My advice is to rehome her, there are many people looking for a nice Yorkie pup. The breed is the wrong one for you. Anytime, I am interviewing someone for one of my dogs or puppies, I make it very clear housebreaking is a BIG issue in Yorkies and really most other toy breeds. It very well could take to a year of age or more for her to be housebroken. Most of the time they are never really that trustworthy in housebreaking or chewing things up for that matter.
If you are that wound up about it, you are likely contributing to the problem and making her a nervouse wreck.
If you are engaged, you and your fiance will have to be in agreement about the dog as it takes both of you to cope with her. If you will marry and have children the problem will become worse. Many couples find themselves in way over their head with a yorkie and starting family.
This is not an easy breed to own.

I agree with you a 100%, if someone is that angry or upset ,and pup only 6 mo. it might be best to find a home where someone will be home to watch her !

Donna Jean 06-03-2007 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by laurabelle (Post 1156807)
Do you even read all responses before you post?? I just said about two posts above this one that I was mostly venting. You do not know me at all, you have no room whatsoever to tell me that I dont love my dog or that I am not mature enough to handle her. Please do not respond to any other posts of mine unless you've read the entire thread.

Most people are so in love with their yorkies when only owning them for a few months that they would die for them, and do whatever possible to make it work, I did see you post after i wrote this message. I have been in love with this breed for 35 years, and if you are having problems now, they are only going to get worse, and if you boyfriend does not like the situation either, when you get married and have children that yorkie will not survive the child, the yorkie will have to supervised so closley, that it will be lucky if she makes it to the ripe old age of 15 or 16, I did not mean to hurt your feelings, i was only being honest about the situation, as the love for the breed runs deep in my heart, and i can not handle it when someone threatens to GIT RID of a little puppy, sorry my compassion lies with the puppy, i still think you should re home her, as this situation is not going to get any better for either one of you. You are already having problems, and this could well go on for over a year, and i would hate to see a poor little puppy so confused, and tramatised because it can not get the idea of house breaking, it may never be able to be house broken, i have had many that were not, and i tiled my whole upstairs to not worry about that situation. That is just the breed. I am surprised the breeder did not tell you how hard they are to house break, and i am also surprised that she was not paper trained when you got her. If you decide to keep her, you should have her in an exercise pen, with potty papers, her food, bed, and toys, when you are not able to watch her. Puppy's that age should not have the run of the house, expecially when in training, she needs to be close to her potty papers, and get used to using them before you try to completely house break her. And by no means should she have the run of the house to dirty up. She is just a baby, and you would not let your baby have the run of the house, when not able to watch it, it would be in a playpen, they yorkie is just like a baby, a baby is also not potty trained for sometimes 2 to three years, and you expect your yorkie baby to get it in two months. You have a little puppy who needs first and formost to feel secure in it's home, it you are thinking of GETTING RID of her, she will feel your feelings, and that will be of no help, you have to decide to stick it out, or give it up, and let her thrive in another home, where the love overpowers the potty problems. She at the least deserves that.

RLC12345678 06-03-2007 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Lorraine (Post 1156210)
Most of the time they are never really that trustworthy in housebreaking or chewing things up for that matter.

Um, I completely agree with this. Not only was Hootie a year old before she was potty trained (even now she'll leave a surprise every now and then for us) but I came home the other day to a huge hole chewed/dug in our sheetrock. Now, both H&H are back to their crate when we are not home. Yorkies just take alot of patience and if that is something that is ruining your relationship, then I think you should rehome her.

chachi 06-03-2007 11:11 AM

I agree you may need to rehome her. Yorkies are extremely difficult to potty train. I have a girl who is 2 yrs old that still has accidents. We are taking all our carpet up and putting down wood and ceramic tile floors. That is what works for us but know it cant be everyones answer. My breeder even told me they are difficult to pottytrain so I knew what I was getting into It just goes along with owning a yorkie.

Fuzzywug 06-03-2007 12:05 PM

Have to get rid of her
 
I agree with those who are saying that the best thing for all of you may be to make the hard, but loving decision, to re-home your yorkie. It may be a very long time before she's potty trained. How long can you fight with your fiance about it........... a year? maybe more?

I have a year old yorkie that was living in nearly the same situation and was brought to us because he was peeing and pooping all over the house and in his crate, even in his food and water bowls! They crated him, he messed in his crate. She took him to the vet and they ran all sorts of tests which showed nothing. She took him to work with her - he pooped and peed in his carrier. They called a trainer, that didn't help. His mom loved him, his dad hated him........ because of the pottying in the house. they were fighting. She sat in her car and cried for 20 minutes before driving away.

It took me two weeks to potty train him. The only thing that was different in my house is that there wasn't any stress. His mom came to see him a few weeks ago and when she saw him she agreed.......... even though it broke her heart........... she had done the best thing for him and for her family.

I wish you all the luck in the world, but unless you confine the dog, use papers or pee pads and are consistent and stop the arguing...... the dog will never be potty trained. My heart goes out to you and to the pup.

Donna Jean 06-03-2007 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fuzzywug (Post 1157799)
I agree with those who are saying that the best thing for all of you may be to make the hard, but loving decision, to re-home your yorkie. It may be a very long time before she's potty trained. How long can you fight with your fiance about it........... a year? maybe more?

I have a year old yorkie that was living in nearly the same situation and was brought to us because he was peeing and pooping all over the house and in his crate, even in his food and water bowls! They crated him, he messed in his crate. She took him to the vet and they ran all sorts of tests which showed nothing. She took him to work with her - he pooped and peed in his carrier. They called a trainer, that didn't help. His mom loved him, his dad hated him........ because of the pottying in the house. they were fighting. She sat in her car and cried for 20 minutes before driving away.

It took me two weeks to potty train him. The only thing that was different in my house is that there wasn't any stress. His mom came to see him a few weeks ago and when she saw him she agreed.......... even though it broke her heart........... she had done the best thing for him and for her family.

I wish you all the luck in the world, but unless you confine the dog, use papers or pee pads and are consistent and stop the arguing...... the dog will never be potty trained. My heart goes out to you and to the pup.

You have hit the head of the nail, you are sooooooooooooooo right on, you need a stressless enviorment to train a puppy, and confinement, and lots of potty pads and positive reinforcement!!!!!!!:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Donna Jean 06-03-2007 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mistyinca (Post 1157069)
OK...this was totally out of line--and wrong too. They are not "the most difficult to housetrain." Neither is it true that they can't hold their bladders well until close to 6 months. My Chloe has been housebroken since she was 5 months old (using the methods I described in my last post in this thread).

She is venting here and frustrated, that doesn't mean she's being bad to her dog. So lighten up!

I am just agreeing with her, when some one says the want to GET RID of their puppy, maybe they should think before they get people like me upset, as i love this breed more than anything on this earth, and i have been in the business of breeding and showing for 6 years and have had yorkies for over 35 years, so please don't tell me i do not know what i am talking about!! This lady and her soon to be husband should be sooooooooooo in love that nothing should be bothering them, and a tiny puppy that is living in a house hold where sometimes they love it and sometimes they don't just doesn't set well with me. You need to be soooooo constient if you want your yorkie to be able to bond to you, it is not only when it is bad, but also when it is good, the love should never differ, and the thought of GETTING RID of her should not even come to mind if you are in love with your puppy, so i have a really hard time with Venting over something that this thread has been going on for a long time, and you are the first one to want to GET RID of your dog. What you soe, you reap. I am a member as are you, and i am just as intitled to be on the side of the puppy, now all of a sudden you have never had anything you have loved so much just because you needed her, she needs to be loved all the time, and she needs to know she is loved all the time and is not going to have to change homes because you and your boyfriend can't agree as to keep her or GET Rid of her, or if she does anything wrong, she is a puppy, you've had her 2 months, not very long to even get a really close bond going with the feeling you have been holding about her. Everyone here agrees this is a very hard breed to housebreak, and some never make it, but they haven't gotton rid of their dogs, and some have, I think you are one of the ones that needs to rehome your puppy and you will be doing you a favor, your soon to be husband, but most importantly your poor babie. Or take the advice so many have offered you, and stick to a constient program. Only you knows what you are capable of doing, and only you can make the choice, and you are the only one that can take the advise or throw it out with the newspaper. You have choices, you need to take advantage of everything said on this post, and make up your mind and stick to it for the sake of your puppy. I know you would not feel to secure if your parents kept telling each other they were going to have to get RId of you if they could't get you potty trained, and that takes several years! Best of luck in your choices, i wish you nothing but the very best! Which ever route you chose to take, does not sound like an easy one.. I'm sorry you have to make a choice!!!!!!

Donna Jean 06-03-2007 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Donna Jean (Post 1157987)
I am just agreeing with her, when some one says the want to GET RID of their puppy, maybe they should think before they get people like me upset, as i love this breed more than anything on this earth, and i have been in the business of breeding and showing for 6 years and have had yorkies for over 35 years, so please don't tell me i do not know what i am talking about!! This lady and her soon to be husband should be sooooooooooo in love that nothing should be bothering them, and a tiny puppy that is living in a house hold where sometimes they love it and sometimes they don't just doesn't set well with me. You need to be soooooo constient if you want your yorkie to be able to bond to you, it is not only when it is bad, but also when it is good, the love should never differ, and the thought of GETTING RID of her should not even come to mind if you are in love with your puppy, so i have a really hard time with Venting over something that this thread has been going on for a long time, and you are the first one to want to GET RID of your dog. What you soe, you reap. I am a member as are you, and i am just as intitled to be on the side of the puppy, now all of a sudden you have never had anything you have loved so much just because you needed her, she needs to be loved all the time, and she needs to know she is loved all the time and is not going to have to change homes because you and your boyfriend can't agree as to keep her or GET Rid of her, or if she does anything wrong, she is a puppy, you've had her 2 months, not very long to even get a really close bond going with the feeling you have been holding about her. Everyone here agrees this is a very hard breed to housebreak, and some never make it, but they haven't gotton rid of their dogs, and some have, I think you are one of the ones that needs to rehome your puppy and you will be doing you a favor, your soon to be husband, but most importantly your poor babie. Or take the advice so many have offered you, and stick to a constient program. Only you knows what you are capable of doing, and only you can make the choice, and you are the only one that can take the advise or throw it out with the newspaper. You have choices, you need to take advantage of everything said on this post, and make up your mind and stick to it for the sake of your puppy. I know you would not feel to secure if your parents kept telling each other they were going to have to get RId of you if they could't get you potty trained, and that takes several years! Best of luck in your choices, i wish you nothing but the very best! Which ever route you chose to take, does not sound like an easy one.. I'm sorry you have to make a choice!!!!!!

Ment to add, my 8 week old puppies are well potty paper trained, however they are in a large exercise pen, with potty papers at each end, that does not mean i should give them the run of the house, they are trained because they are so close to their papers. They have to learn to control their bladders, and that comes between 4 and 6 months!! Ask any Vet! Still a young puppy should not have the responsibility of the whole house, they need to be close to food, their bed, water, and their potty pads! They will get the idea on their own, all of mine go with a package of potty pads and i have had no problems. Everyone is different, and does things differently, i am not trying to offend anyone, just telling it as i see it.

sweetr72 06-03-2007 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Donna Jean (Post 1157684)
Most people are so in love with their yorkies when only owning them for a few months that they would die for them, and do whatever possible to make it work, I did see you post after i wrote this message. I have been in love with this breed for 35 years, and if you are having problems now, they are only going to get worse, and if you boyfriend does not like the situation either, when you get married and have children that yorkie will not survive the child, the yorkie will have to supervised so closley, that it will be lucky if she makes it to the ripe old age of 15 or 16, I did not mean to hurt your feelings, i was only being honest about the situation, as the love for the breed runs deep in my heart, and i can not handle it when someone threatens to GIT RID of a little puppy, sorry my compassion lies with the puppy, i still think you should re home her, as this situation is not going to get any better for either one of you. You are already having problems, and this could well go on for over a year, and i would hate to see a poor little puppy so confused, and tramatised because it can not get the idea of house breaking, it may never be able to be house broken, i have had many that were not, and i tiled my whole upstairs to not worry about that situation. That is just the breed. I am surprised the breeder did not tell you how hard they are to house break, and i am also surprised that she was not paper trained when you got her. If you decide to keep her, you should have her in an exercise pen, with potty papers, her food, bed, and toys, when you are not able to watch her. Puppy's that age should not have the run of the house, expecially when in training, she needs to be close to her potty papers, and get used to using them before you try to completely house break her. And by no means should she have the run of the house to dirty up. She is just a baby, and you would not let your baby have the run of the house, when not able to watch it, it would be in a playpen, they yorkie is just like a baby, a baby is also not potty trained for sometimes 2 to three years, and you expect your yorkie baby to get it in two months. You have a little puppy who needs first and formost to feel secure in it's home, it you are thinking of GETTING RID of her, she will feel your feelings, and that will be of no help, you have to decide to stick it out, or give it up, and let her thrive in another home, where the love overpowers the potty problems. She at the least deserves that.

I was frustrated myself from time to time also...training ANY puppy is work..Sometimes people need to vent and maybe she worded her title wrong...I think she was just crying out for help and ideas...which she got and which it looks like she is trying out...yes I LOVE my dogs and YES I did get frustrated...both feelings can happen at the same time lol...

As far saying "what will you do when you have kids" SHE DOES HAVE A SON!! People need to lighten up and offer support when people ask for it...she clearly was just needing a little help from her friends whom many of us are in the same boat with housebreaking...

She has said time and time again throughout this thread that she wants to keep on trying...so lets not just say throw in the towel and rehome so fast...let support her and help her the way we SHOULD be...

Just my two cents..

Dawn

bettyeanne 06-03-2007 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fuzzywug (Post 1157799)
I agree with those who are saying that the best thing for all of you may be to make the hard, but loving decision, to re-home your yorkie. It may be a very long time before she's potty trained. How long can you fight with your fiance about it........... a year? maybe more?

I have a year old yorkie that was living in nearly the same situation and was brought to us because he was peeing and pooping all over the house and in his crate, even in his food and water bowls! They crated him, he messed in his crate. She took him to the vet and they ran all sorts of tests which showed nothing. She took him to work with her - he pooped and peed in his carrier. They called a trainer, that didn't help. His mom loved him, his dad hated him........ because of the pottying in the house. they were fighting. She sat in her car and cried for 20 minutes before driving away.

It took me two weeks to potty train him. The only thing that was different in my house is that there wasn't any stress. His mom came to see him a few weeks ago and when she saw him she agreed.......... even though it broke her heart........... she had done the best thing for him and for her family.

I wish you all the luck in the world, but unless you confine the dog, use papers or pee pads and are consistent and stop the arguing...... the dog will never be potty trained. My heart goes out to you and to the pup.

:thumbup: :thumbup: I totally agree. My Toto was already being pad trained when we got her at 16 weeks. She is still confined to her X-pen if we have to leave her alone. This is more for her protection than being afraid that she will potty in our house. She is completely pad trained, but she will still pee/poop in other peoples houses [as you know]!! It's frustrating and she is almost 4 years old!!

Donna Jean 06-03-2007 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetr72 (Post 1158019)
I was frustrated myself from time to time also...training ANY puppy is work..Sometimes people need to vent and maybe she worded her title wrong...I think she was just crying out for help and ideas...which she got and which it looks like she is trying out...yes I LOVE my dogs and YES I did get frustrated...both feelings can happen at the same time lol...

As far saying "what will you do when you have kids" SHE DOES HAVE A SON!! People need to lighten up and offer support when people ask for it...she clearly was just needing a little help from her friends whom many of us are in the same boat with housebreaking...

She has said time and time again throughout this thread that she wants to keep on trying...so lets not just say throw in the towel and rehome so fast...let support her and help her the way we SHOULD be...

Just my two cents..

Dawn

Dawn you are the one who needs to lighten up, wheather she has a son or not, means that she had to go through potty training him, sorry you can not see that i am trying to help, and it is nothing more, nothiig less, just my two cents......... and i am not trying to offend anyone, just telliing it how i see it, i am not asking anyone to agree with me, and i have seen a lot of other people on this post feel the same way, for the sake of the dog and the lady, re homing should be a thought. Why make the situation worse for both she and the puppy! Again just my 2 cents!


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