PLEASE HELP!! Rio has no clue I'm trying to punish
 

I just got a baby yorkie (10 weeks). Her name is Rio because she came to the US from Rio de Janiero

Anyways, anyone have a puppy that has no clue about anything?!?!?!?

Isn't scared of anything, doesn't know when I'm mad, and prances around wagging her tail ALL THE TIME!

When she pees and poops on the carpet and I get mad at her and tell her "NO", she has no clue.

There's also NO SIGNS of her wanting to go pee. She doesn't sniff around to pick a spot so it's hard for me to catch her.

I even tried to scare her. My other yorkie, Sammie (who I realize now..is an ANGEL) is scared of the vaccuum, hates the blow dryer and knows when I'm talking to him.

So I put the blow drying on Rio and nothing! Not scared, just sits there with the wind blowing in her face.

I'm SOO FRUSTRATED!!! PLEASE SOMEONE HELP! HOW CAN I TRAIN WHEN THE PUPPY DOESN'T EVEN KNOW I'M TRYING TO PUNISH HER???

I'm having the exact same problem with my Gizmo, hes 16 weeks old, weve had him for 2 weeks now.

Here's the link to the thread i started....
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72742

Not sure if it will help at all, cuz im still at a loss for what to do. He's like a little devil, doing what he wants. I LOVE him to death, hes so cute, so hes gettin away with it for now..but i gota eventually show him IM ALPHA, haha.

Good luck and let me know if you figure anything out!

OK, slow down. You're both heading the wrong direction. The title of this thread says everything: "I'M TRYING TO PUNISH HIM."

To teach a dog anything, you should never punish. Instead, you should reward.

Here's how I advise people to potty train:

* Never punish. If you catch an accident happening, it's OK to give a firm "NO" and give them a trip outside. I used to clean up the mess with a paper towel and leave the paper towel outside where I wanted my dogs to go potty. However, if you just see a spot on the floor, it's too late. Don't punish. Don't do anything.
* Always reward. All it takes is for you to reward success a few times for your pup to "get it." Follow him or her outside, and whenever there's a success, be right on top of it. PRAISE, PRAISE, PRAISE and give the best treats you can find.

Hopefully, others will have additional advice, but that's the key. Don't punish. Be positive.

Good luck!

What do I do if there's nothing she's done to reward her. LOL

She hasn't done one thing right. Not even come close to her wee wee pad

i agree with Sammietheyorkie. I will sometimes catch Gizmo mid stream and say no...which startles him to stop...then pick him up and put him on the mat, sometimes hell do his business, other times ill keep him there on the pad, by attaching his leash, but i could stand there 20 mins and he wont go...then 25 mins later hell finish.
I cant really reward him for going on the pad when ive stopped him mid whatever and put him on the pee pad myself...?

No, you can't agree! I need help, YTers. Someone disagree!

With you, it sounds like you're confusing Gizmo. If your saying NO is getting him to stop peeing, then don't say NO. Just put him on the mat and say YES!

And Sammietheyorkie, all I can say is I don't think you're trying hard enough or have been lucky enough. You have to catch them in the act of a success for this to work.

but the no startles him to stop, so i can put him where i want him to go? right...how else do i stop him. Then i say "go pee" when hes on the mat, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt...but i ALWAYS do the same thing for classical conditioning, and its not working.
And its not really punish...thats not what i mean, and i boubt Sammietheyorkie means that either...instead of punish its more to startle the dog to get it to stop what its doing...i would NEVER punish him.

I see where you're coming from and agree it can be frustrating. I just know that one or two good successes can mean a world of difference. I've never pee-pad trained, and it seemed easier for me just to put them outside and wait until they did their business before praising. Also, I'd praise them on a walk when they peed.

Pee pad training seems more difficult to me. Hopefully, someone with more experience will help you guys out.

Thanks for ganging up on me in the middle of the night! LOL

LOL, I know what you feel, I used to think Luna had selective mental retardation.... But sure you can find something your dogs do ok to start training them on treats... I used cheerrios... small enough not to ruin her appetite, and sweet enough for her to die for... Probably your dog will run after you... Use that... Tell him to come (when you actually see them comming), then give a treat... Then they get the point if they do what you want they get a sweet... then, watch closely, and whenever it is time for them to go, bring them to the right place (I also find as Alaska Yorkie, much easier to bring them outside, so there is no missing.), and once in a while you will be succesful, then, give the treat... So they get the connection. And yes, this little stinkers don?t do anything for free when they are this young (well, probably they will chew something for free LOL) The thing is they get the concept of doing what the screaming lady wants so I can get a treat.

Hope this helps, I am not an expert, but it worked for me...

This is my second Yorkie...my first one is 13 weeks and I trained him myself so I have been through the correctly, the waiting, the cleaning, the rewarding, etc. He is now 100% trained

This new one is just a whole other story!!! My boyfriend said it the best...she SCAMMPERS Do you know what this means? She doesn't walk, she doesn't smell around, she scamppers around with her legs running a million miles per hour. Her tail is wagging and she's having fun

So she doesn't stop to listen to me...EVER!

I love her to death but this is frustrating. My boy Sammie is only 13 weeks and completely trained and looks at her like..."listen to mom, she's talking to you!!"

Maybe she doesn't understand English?!
I'm not meaning that to be funny, seriously! - maybe that is the case? You mentioned she came from Brazil - can you find out if she was spoken to in Portuguese or English? Maybe she only knows 'no' in Portguese? On 2nd thought, even if that IS the case, it's irrelevant - she needs to know English now, huh? :rolleyes: Sorry I'm not of much help - it sounds like you are heading in the right direction with her - Good luck and keep us posted!

PS -
My puppy (almost 15 wks) knows her commands in English/Spanish. I use hand signals with her too, so I'm not sure if she's responding to just that, but she knows 'come!' and 'venga!' mean the same thing. Maybe you can teach your pup the same (English/Portuguese)!?

Ceiba's Mom...THANK YOU!!

I think that's the best advice I have recieved. I will have to learn some portuguese...LOL

Yes, she is from Brazil so maybe that is the case

My advice is definitely POSITIVE PRAISE and TREAT REWARDS.

What I have learned is that a pup can't have too much free run for this to work. Keep them in a small area. I would make barricades for me and the 2 pups in the kitchen. The wee wee pad would be there and this kinda forces them to have more success at using the 'right' potty area. Then REWARD! It shouldn't take that long for them to realize what good potty behavior is - they want that treat.

Roxy and TJ didn't get free run until they were 1.5 years old. And in that time there was lots of regression with potty, so I had to keep going back to confining them and retrain.

Pups are lots of fun ;)

I don't know what to say...but is that her in your avatar picture? if so she is soo cute!

I know when I got Kalani I thought he didn't have a clue but then realized that I was giving him too much freedom and treating him like my older one, Hoku. So, I went back to basics - limited area, lots of praise, special potty treat - and all of a sudden he figured it out:) I think it helped that I kept Hoku in there with him so he learned very quickly that pottying in the right place got him a yummy treat and some run around time in the living room!

Hoku's Mom...I think you're right. I'm so used to Sammie being so good that I forgot my basics...I need to go back and start over.

I don't want to neglect Sammie and trap him in the kitchen with me and the new one when he wants to be out in the living room but I'm going to have to go threw. it.

As long as we are all in the kitchen. there will be less space for the new one Rio to be scampering around everywhere.

I think it's important to go back to the basics. I just got my second one and he had like 2-3 accidents the first few days I had him and now he's great. I had to remind myself what the basics were because Coco is so great, I trained her well. I couldn't have the same expectations of Coco on Rocco because he's new. I think sometimes we expect too much. Rio is only 10 weeks old. Would you expect an infant to listen to your punishments or be fully potty trained? So why would you on a happy little healthy bouncy puppy? Just give her time, and patience and plenty of basics training. Maybe crating her or closing her in a smaller area is the answer to going back to basics. Punishment is never the answer, it's rewards.
I AGREE WITH YOU ALASKAYORKIE ;)

You'll be surprised at how quickly they catch on when they're both in the same area. I would tell Hoku to go potty and Kalani would follow her to the pad, sniff what she just did and immediately go also:) Now he listens better than she does - LOL!

First and most importantly, NEVER, let a puppy run around the house!! NEVER!! Put that puppy in an expen hooked to the front of a crate, with water bottle attached to the pen, wee-wee pad at the oposite end, a femur bone and a soft toy that doesn't have eyes or any parts that can be chewed off. Make sure the pen is on a bare floor, not a carpet. Take the puppy outside every hour and praise like the dickens when it pottys. Play with it outside so it can run and get lots of exercise and stimulation. At night when your watching TV then let it join you where you sit and interact with the family. Give it a chewy to occupy itself, but teach it it isn't play time there. Only quiet bonding, cuddling time. When it goes to bite-play, put it off you and give it a chewy. If it gets too persistant at bit play, say ACK, and give it a chewy. If it doesn't stop, then it's time out, take outside for potty break and back into the expen till it's settled down and quiet. Never take a puppy out of the pen when it's yapping or crying.

THAT IS SOOO TRUE!!!! I don?t know how I did not think about that, as my dogs "speak" or "understand" spanish!!!

That would be my blind bet also!!! Just be patient, and talk a lot to her...

:D

I agree. To me it is also much easier to potty train outdoors.
Isn't that where you want them to eventually go anyhow?
Why not start from the beginning and not have to retrain them
later?

Sorry I can help either with pads I have never used them.

For me personally, no i dont want him going ouside ever...i think is much easier for them to go indoors, well once they are trained. My boyfriends brother yorkies are both piddle pad trained(came that way) and life is soooooooooo easy, its great...cant wait until gizmo's trained...but were willing for it to take up to a year even!

No in Portuguese is Nao lol....so it doesn't sound much different

you didn't tell me that she was a girl !! i thought it was a boy !! oh my goodness !! girls usually pick up thing a whole lot quicker than boys..*shugs* sammie should be showing rio this is how to potty not this way. training classes might be the best thing hun. ;)

I agree w/ you alaskayorkie. Good advice.

Ok, both your babies are way too young to 'get the big picture' yet. And you definately don't want to 'scare' them either. If you catch them peeing you just give them a stern 'no' and immediately carrry them to either a pee pad or outside. If you 'scare' them while they're pottying it's probably going to think your punishing them for something they can't help but do. There's a difference between trying to teach your puppy where to potty and clapping your hands to correct a full grown potty trained dog for misbehaving and knowing it! Meaning, don't startle young ones who are trying to learn and don't know that what they're doing is wrong. But like w/ my guys who are already potty trained and have been so for years if I catch them pottying I will clap my hands to make them stop, then take them outside and then give them a belly rub for pottying where they're supposed too.:D It also sounds like they have too much freedom on their own in too big of a space. Harley learned to use his pee pad in his x-pen. It is small, lined w/ linoleum and full of toys to play with. When I would go to the kitchen or to watch tv a pee pad went with me and so did he. For the first 4-5 months he never left my sight. Because I knew if he did there would be accidents and that would be my fault. A puppy can only be expected to hold it's business for one hour for every month old it is. She may not being showing signs of having to go potty yet but that may be because you just haven't learned her signs yet. Often times we think our yorkies don't get what we're saying and we get frustrated. But imagine how frustrated they must be when inside they're screaming, "I gotta go! I gotta go!" or "Mom I'm starvin!" but we can't understand what they want yet bc they can't even talk! :p That's why it takes time, patience and a lot of 'hawk eye' action lol Keep your chin up, I know it's not easy but it will happen. The number one thing with any sort of training is always consistency, consistency, consistency. A dog learns best through rigorous, repetetive behavior. It can be done, I have six and all are fully armed w/ potty training. :)

And remember it really is just as frustrating for your little ones to have accidents. They don't mean to but it happens because they're babies and they're learning. They want to please you. (no matter how irritating they can sometimes act ;) )

:lol tears I know you was not trying to be funny, but sometimes I talk Phoebe in spanish and the poor girl gime the look like mom what are you saying, hummm I think I'm going to try to teach her spanish too, your post was so cute ;)

I would definetly cut down on the amount of space you let them roam when you're not right there watching. I also prefer to train them outside right away, instead of having to reteach them when they go on the paper. I took Skippy out every couple of hours, and when he'd go I'd make a big deal over it. He still poops once in a while, but for the most part he goes outside.

Well, my two babies are 13 weeks old and I have the same problem. In the beginning Pheoebe learned where to pee and Boo-Boo didn't. She was getting praised and he wasn't. Now is the other way around. I don't know what todo anymore. I have tried everything and don't know what to do anymore. Please keep us posted.She is gorgeous tho.

Here's some update....she's catching on now (relief**!!!)

I think she's following Sammie, her brother, who is 100% trained. I'm so glad I didn't get them together as now, she's picking up everything Sammie is doing right.

Thanks for all your advice!

:happyboun Great news :)