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Sammietheyorkie 03-26-2007 08:48 AM

Hoku's Mom...I think you're right. I'm so used to Sammie being so good that I forgot my basics...I need to go back and start over.

I don't want to neglect Sammie and trap him in the kitchen with me and the new one when he wants to be out in the living room but I'm going to have to go threw. it.

As long as we are all in the kitchen. there will be less space for the new one Rio to be scampering around everywhere.

vainchick5 03-26-2007 08:57 AM

I think it's important to go back to the basics. I just got my second one and he had like 2-3 accidents the first few days I had him and now he's great. I had to remind myself what the basics were because Coco is so great, I trained her well. I couldn't have the same expectations of Coco on Rocco because he's new. I think sometimes we expect too much. Rio is only 10 weeks old. Would you expect an infant to listen to your punishments or be fully potty trained? So why would you on a happy little healthy bouncy puppy? Just give her time, and patience and plenty of basics training. Maybe crating her or closing her in a smaller area is the answer to going back to basics. Punishment is never the answer, it's rewards.
I AGREE WITH YOU ALASKAYORKIE ;)

Hokule'a 03-26-2007 08:59 AM

You'll be surprised at how quickly they catch on when they're both in the same area. I would tell Hoku to go potty and Kalani would follow her to the pad, sniff what she just did and immediately go also:) Now he listens better than she does - LOL!

Yorkiedaze 03-26-2007 09:18 AM

First and most importantly, NEVER, let a puppy run around the house!! NEVER!! Put that puppy in an expen hooked to the front of a crate, with water bottle attached to the pen, wee-wee pad at the oposite end, a femur bone and a soft toy that doesn't have eyes or any parts that can be chewed off. Make sure the pen is on a bare floor, not a carpet. Take the puppy outside every hour and praise like the dickens when it pottys. Play with it outside so it can run and get lots of exercise and stimulation. At night when your watching TV then let it join you where you sit and interact with the family. Give it a chewy to occupy itself, but teach it it isn't play time there. Only quiet bonding, cuddling time. When it goes to bite-play, put it off you and give it a chewy. If it gets too persistant at bit play, say ACK, and give it a chewy. If it doesn't stop, then it's time out, take outside for potty break and back into the expen till it's settled down and quiet. Never take a puppy out of the pen when it's yapping or crying.

Isabel 03-26-2007 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ceibasmom (Post 1025903)
Maybe she doesn't understand English?!
I'm not meaning that to be funny, seriously! -

THAT IS SOOO TRUE!!!! I don?t know how I did not think about that, as my dogs "speak" or "understand" spanish!!!

That would be my blind bet also!!! Just be patient, and talk a lot to her...

:D

ARCHIE 03-26-2007 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by alaskayorkie (Post 1025788)
I see where you're coming from and agree it can be frustrating. I just know that one or two good successes can mean a world of difference. I've never pee-pad trained, and it seemed easier for me just to put them outside and wait until they did their business before praising. Also, I'd praise them on a walk when they peed.

Pee pad training seems more difficult to me. Hopefully, someone with more experience will help you guys out.

Thanks for ganging up on me in the middle of the night! LOL


I agree. To me it is also much easier to potty train outdoors.
Isn't that where you want them to eventually go anyhow?
Why not start from the beginning and not have to retrain them
later?

Sorry I can help either with pads I have never used them.

armygirl65 03-26-2007 01:18 PM

For me personally, no i dont want him going ouside ever...i think is much easier for them to go indoors, well once they are trained. My boyfriends brother yorkies are both piddle pad trained(came that way) and life is soooooooooo easy, its great...cant wait until gizmo's trained...but were willing for it to take up to a year even!

mizzwanned 03-26-2007 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sammietheyorkie (Post 1025912)
Ceiba's Mom...THANK YOU!!

I think that's the best advice I have recieved. I will have to learn some portuguese...LOL

Yes, she is from Brazil so maybe that is the case

No in Portuguese is Nao lol....so it doesn't sound much different

Mz_s3ski_Kitt3n 03-27-2007 12:11 AM

you didn't tell me that she was a girl !! i thought it was a boy !! oh my goodness !! girls usually pick up thing a whole lot quicker than boys..*shugs* sammie should be showing rio this is how to potty not this way. training classes might be the best thing hun. ;)

HisNameIsHarley 03-27-2007 02:25 AM

I agree w/ you alaskayorkie. Good advice.

Ok, both your babies are way too young to 'get the big picture' yet. And you definately don't want to 'scare' them either. If you catch them peeing you just give them a stern 'no' and immediately carrry them to either a pee pad or outside. If you 'scare' them while they're pottying it's probably going to think your punishing them for something they can't help but do. There's a difference between trying to teach your puppy where to potty and clapping your hands to correct a full grown potty trained dog for misbehaving and knowing it! Meaning, don't startle young ones who are trying to learn and don't know that what they're doing is wrong. But like w/ my guys who are already potty trained and have been so for years if I catch them pottying I will clap my hands to make them stop, then take them outside and then give them a belly rub for pottying where they're supposed too.:D It also sounds like they have too much freedom on their own in too big of a space. Harley learned to use his pee pad in his x-pen. It is small, lined w/ linoleum and full of toys to play with. When I would go to the kitchen or to watch tv a pee pad went with me and so did he. For the first 4-5 months he never left my sight. Because I knew if he did there would be accidents and that would be my fault. A puppy can only be expected to hold it's business for one hour for every month old it is. She may not being showing signs of having to go potty yet but that may be because you just haven't learned her signs yet. Often times we think our yorkies don't get what we're saying and we get frustrated. But imagine how frustrated they must be when inside they're screaming, "I gotta go! I gotta go!" or "Mom I'm starvin!" but we can't understand what they want yet bc they can't even talk! :p That's why it takes time, patience and a lot of 'hawk eye' action lol Keep your chin up, I know it's not easy but it will happen. The number one thing with any sort of training is always consistency, consistency, consistency. A dog learns best through rigorous, repetetive behavior. It can be done, I have six and all are fully armed w/ potty training. :)

And remember it really is just as frustrating for your little ones to have accidents. They don't mean to but it happens because they're babies and they're learning. They want to please you. (no matter how irritating they can sometimes act ;) )

PANAMA69 03-27-2007 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ceibasmom (Post 1025903)
Maybe she doesn't understand English?!
I'm not meaning that to be funny, seriously! - maybe that is the case? You mentioned she came from Brazil - can you find out if she was spoken to in Portuguese or English? Maybe she only knows 'no' in Portguese? On 2nd thought, even if that IS the case, it's irrelevant - she needs to know English now, huh? :rolleyes: Sorry I'm not of much help - it sounds like you are heading in the right direction with her - Good luck and keep us posted!

PS -
My puppy (almost 15 wks) knows her commands in English/Spanish. I use hand signals with her too, so I'm not sure if she's responding to just that, but she knows 'come!' and 'venga!' mean the same thing. Maybe you can teach your pup the same (English/Portuguese)!?

:lol tears I know you was not trying to be funny, but sometimes I talk Phoebe in spanish and the poor girl gime the look like mom what are you saying, hummm I think I'm going to try to teach her spanish too, your post was so cute ;)

suzysmitt 03-27-2007 03:05 AM

I would definetly cut down on the amount of space you let them roam when you're not right there watching. I also prefer to train them outside right away, instead of having to reteach them when they go on the paper. I took Skippy out every couple of hours, and when he'd go I'd make a big deal over it. He still poops once in a while, but for the most part he goes outside.

Booboo'smommy 03-27-2007 03:12 AM

Well, my two babies are 13 weeks old and I have the same problem. In the beginning Pheoebe learned where to pee and Boo-Boo didn't. She was getting praised and he wasn't. Now is the other way around. I don't know what todo anymore. I have tried everything and don't know what to do anymore. Please keep us posted.She is gorgeous tho.

Sammietheyorkie 03-28-2007 10:25 AM

Here's some update....she's catching on now (relief**!!!)

I think she's following Sammie, her brother, who is 100% trained. I'm so glad I didn't get them together as now, she's picking up everything Sammie is doing right.

Thanks for all your advice!

PANAMA69 03-28-2007 12:48 PM

:happyboun Great news :)


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