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Ceibasmom 03-23-2007 11:49 AM

This may be a silly question (please don't shoot me!) but when you clean up the urine or poop, are you using any products like 'Nature's Miracle' or anything? Maybe that would help her to stop going in the same spots?

Christen10 03-23-2007 08:43 PM

She may have a bladder problem. I'm not sure but I'd ask the vet about it. Somtimes you can just call them and explain whats going on and they'll give you advice. If they think its serious, they'll have you come in. I wouldn't put her in the crate anymore. I suggest either putting her in the bathroom with newspapers all over the floor so she has no choice but to use the newspaper and doesn't have to sleep in it b/c she has room to get around or if your a very light sleeper and won't roll over on her, this is what I did, I put my puppy in my arms. She laid her head on my shoulder and I put my other arm around her careful not to squish her and when I felt her squirming around out night I immediatly took her outside to go to the bathroom. She never had accidents in my bed and when she squirmed and took her out she immediatly went. It worked for me! Goodluck!!!

yorkiegirl83 03-23-2007 08:59 PM

You've got some great advice and I don't have much more to add.. but just wanted to say what you're going through is totally normal.. I'm dealing with it also :) AND nature's miracle cleaner is THE BEST ever :) Good luck!

YorkieGuru 03-24-2007 12:53 PM

once again, I am working on potty training my newest pup. When I first brought her home, she was doing very good. But I have caught her peeing on my floor. right after I just took her out. She would rather play outside instead of going potty. After she has the pottying down, I will allow more play time outside. But I am wanting her to understand that outside right now is just for going potty. So I have used the method that I have with my other dogs.
I use treats as rewards for going potty. I buy those bacon strips, and tear off a little niblit for each time they go. It worked on my other 2. Today, I was so frustrated with her, I stood outside waiting for her to potty for 40 minutes. She wouldnt go. And I know she had to. So I brought her back inside and placed her in a crate. 20 minutes later I took her back outside and she went. So she got a treat and praise. But she def. is being the hardest one to potty train. But the treats are the only thing that has worked for me.
Oh and the schedule also works. They dont get no water after 7:00. But I do leave the food out. They nitpick off and on all day.

pea496 03-24-2007 02:10 PM

It took my little guy until he was 8 months old before he was potty trained. My mom has a Yorkie, and we went to Florida for a week with the little guy. I think he was taken from his mom too soon because after hanging out with my mom's yorkie, he was completely potty trained!!!

RhondaJones 03-25-2007 05:01 AM

I am sorry to hear that you are having so much trouble. I wanted to share with you what worked for my little guy. He was doing the exact same thing Sasha is doing. First of all, I went out and bought small little doggie treats and everytime he pottied outside I would PRAISE him and reward him with a treat. He LOVES the treats so he quickly learned that he had to potty outside to get a treat. As for peeing and pooping in crate ...Buddy also did this. It was a nightmare!! So I know what you are going through. I was able to resolve this by not crating him at night. I keep Buddy in our gated mudroom at night with newspaper by the door. He always goes during the night but on the paper. At first I would never say anything to him in the morning regarding the pee and poop on the paper because I was just happy that it was not on him. But now I have slowly started to use a BOLD voice when cleaning it up each morning. I truly think he understands....because he is doing a better job at holding it each night. (perhaps you have an area where you could put Sasha at night) ALSO I bought online at Pets Marts a product called "NO GO".....spray this on all areas where Sasha potty's that you do not want her to go. I hope all this helps....I am sure there is Yorkie owners out there that would disagree with my potty training techniques but I was desperate....I tried everything and this is what is working for us. Buddy is 5 months old.
Good luck....please keep us posted on her progress. Just keep in mind, potty training just takes time.

Sweetums 03-25-2007 07:20 PM

I agree wiyh the last poster. I would not crate the puppy. We don't have a mudroom close enough for us to monitor our little girl. When we first got her, we had her in bed with us. She never soiled once! If we heard her whimpering at night, we got up and took her to the potty pad. She rarely did that, and so I think we only got up once or twice during the night the first month, and usually, she didn't whimper until 5:30 or 6:00. So you might give this method a try for the nighttime problem. After about a month to a month-and-a-half, we moved her to a crate next to our bed. We could still hear if she whimpered, but she sleeps solid until 6:00 - 6:30. I get up to get ready for work at 6:30, so I take her to the potty-pad first, then she goes back and lays in bed with my husband until I need to get my clothes around 7:30. My husband takes it from there.

We praise and give treats each time she does it right, and we ignore mistakes. Treats are about all they care about, so we are very consequent about giving them every time.

xxmxaxrxyxx 03-26-2007 08:07 AM

I don't really have much to say since it seems like everyone has given such good advice...but you might look into wearing a doggie diaper if you are tired of scrubbing and clean your floor...

but just remember to take her out every 20-30 minutes so you don't have to worry about washing her every hour...just a thought...

hope it works out in the end!

laurabelle 03-27-2007 06:41 AM

I'd love to have her sleep at night with me, but my fiance says no. She naps with me sometimes during the day and never has peed in our bed.

Right now I'm trying to get her on a feeding schedule and I'm picking up her food and water in the late evenings and making sure she's empty before we crate her. I'm still crating her because there really is no place for her to be blocked off - we don't have a small room without anything that we don't want peed on really. She won't use a puppy pad either, she'll pee right next to it. I'm hoping the feeding schedule helps with the nighttime pottying.

I have little bacon treats that she loves, she gets one when she potties outside. I don't know if it's helping, maybe she's really too young to "get" it yet.

Thanks for all your advice - I'll keep you posted!

misilmisil 03-27-2007 06:45 AM

hope this helps!
 
? 6:00 AM puppy wakes. Take him outdoors immediately. Wait for him to eliminate and praise.
? 6:15 AM indoor, 100% supervised play time and access to water.
? 6:45 AM put puppy back in crate with his breakfast meal.
? 7:00 AM take puppy outdoors (remove food). Wait for him to eliminate and praise.
? 7:20 AM put puppy back in crate, leave for work.
? 12:00 PM take puppy outdoors. Wait for him to eliminate and praise.
? 12:15 indoor, 100% supervised play time and access to water.
? 12:30 PM pup puppy in crate with lunch meal.
? 12:45 PM take puppy outdoors (remove food). Wait for him to eliminate and praise.
? 1:00 PM put puppy back in crate, back to work.
? 5:30 PM take puppy outdoors. Wait for him to eliminate and praise.
? 5:45 PM play with puppy outdoors.
? 6:00 PM indoor, 100% supervised play time and access to water.
? 6:30 PM, put puppy in crate and tend to your required evening tasks.
? 7:30 PM, take puppy outdoors. Wait for him to eliminate and praise.
? 7:45 PM, indoor 100% supervised play time. Access to water.
? 8:30 PM, in crate with evening meal.
? 9:00 PM, take puppy outdoors (remove food). Wait for him to eliminate and praise.
? 9:15 PM, indoor 100% supervised play time.
? 10:00 PM, last trip outdoors.
? 10:15 PM put puppy in crate for the evening.

milomlo 03-27-2007 07:53 AM

Wow that is totally scheduled. I can't be that scheduled:rolleyes:

Izzy doesn't go in her crate anymore. I take her out in the morning and she pees. I don't care how long I sit outside with her she will not poop in front of me :rolleyes: I have tried the scheduled feedings and she won't eat when I give her time. She would rather snack like Cody does. I pick up the food then Cody gets mad at me cause he wants to eat when he is ready. :p

I still have her crate very small or else she would eliminate inside. She has barely enough room to turn around w/ her toys of course. :p

DesertChildAZ 03-27-2007 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkieGuru (Post 1023194)
She would rather play outside instead of going potty. After she has the pottying down, I will allow more play time outside. But I am wanting her to understand that outside right now is just for going potty. So I have used the method that I have with my other dogs.

The training book I have suggests putting them on a lead/leash when you take them out in the yard to potty and not letting them "wander" on their own. Keep them on the leash and only allow them to go within a few feet in a circle around you. They'll get bored and pee and then you can praise them, give them the treat, etc. If you let them wander, they will use "potty time" as a way of getting you to take them out for a good time instead of the serious business.

DesertChildAZ 03-27-2007 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laurabelle (Post 1028348)
I'm still crating her because there really is no place for her to be blocked off - we don't have a small room without anything that we don't want peed on really. She won't use a puppy pad either, she'll pee right next to it. I'm hoping the feeding schedule helps with the nighttime pottying.

If you have any narrow room with tile...you can block a small area off with baby gates. I went online to Craigslist and bought two used baby gates for $25 (for both) and put one baby gate on the entrance of the galley-shaped kitchen and another baby gate about 3 feet in, so it serves as a kennel area.
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} = baby gate

On a different note, I was also told to NOT clean up the dirtied crate in the presence of the dog because he would just think "oh, it will get cleaned after I dirty it" and it will be thought of as a way of getting special attention. I was told to put him in a different room and clean it.

laurabelle 03-27-2007 08:43 AM

I have a two year old, I have a couple baby gates, I could try that maybe! She hates being enclosed and barks soooo loud, she's gotten to where she calms down in about 10 minutes but those 10 minutes are awful. I wonder if I have a place downstairs I could try that with, her crate and blankets are downstairs mainly because it makes her quieter for us upstairs, I can't sleep with her sounding like she's barking into a megaphone!

DesertChildAZ 03-27-2007 08:45 AM

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