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ldenise 03-14-2006 07:10 PM
I am far from being an expert at this but I think pee pad training is more difficult for them to understand than going out side. I am trying to pee pads with my pups. the other 2 go out side and i had no problem getting them trained. the pee pads are more difficult. it seems that anything laying on the floor is fair game to them. It sounds to me like he is showing you where he is wanting to go maybe in rebeling for yelling at him. try giving the treats for going where he is supposed to go. works for us here. have patience and it will all fall together. good luck.

lreed 03-14-2006 07:12 PM
Try keeping him crated, then let him out to do his business on a pee pad (or take him outside). When he understands what the pad is for let him have his freedom, gated in the kitchen. Also, if you want to take him into the carpeted area, use a bellypad (with or without the pad - your choice). Dogs are like babies, and children....each has it's own likes and dislikes....strengths and weaknesses; you just have to keep working with them until they get old enough to hold it a little bit. With love and patience he'll learn.

myriamha 03-14-2006 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ldenise
I am far from being an expert at this but I think pee pad training is more difficult for them to understand than going out side. I am trying to pee pads with my pups. the other 2 go out side and i had no problem getting them trained. the pee pads are more difficult. it seems that anything laying on the floor is fair game to them. It sounds to me like he is showing you where he is wanting to go maybe in rebeling for yelling at him. try giving the treats for going where he is supposed to go. works for us here. have patience and it will all fall together. good luck.
I dont have the option to train him to go outside as i live in quebec and when its -10 i cant let him outside for 10 min being a puppy

ldenise 03-14-2006 07:14 PM
try the belly band method. at least it will save your carpet.

bren 03-14-2006 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by myriamha
Can't train him to go outside as the weather is still cold and for the litterbox i'm scared he will eat the stuff they put in it .
Can you try to put the pee pad in a litter box? Don't use litter--just lay the pad in the litter box. I had to do this with Abbie, otherwise she would not use the pad. She needed to step into something--it was almost like she needed physical boundaries around her pee pad so that she would use it.

PennyNLola 03-14-2006 07:17 PM
Wow....I think you should re-evaluate the decisions you are making. I cannot believe you would get so worked up over this. I have 4 dogs and 50% of the time, they use the pads, and 50% of the time they don't. Remember who is the adult here and who is the adolescent. I am not saying to let him think he is the boss, but please do not be disrespectful to him and to yourself. It's only fair. Thanks!

ldenise 03-14-2006 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bren
Can you try to put the pee pad in a litter box? Don't use litter--just lay the pad in the litter box. I had to do this with Abbie, otherwise she would not use the pad. She needed to step into something--it was almost like she needed physical boundaries around her pee pad so that she would use it.
that is a good idea.i was having trouble with my pups going in the bed (their bed) and peeing in it. so i just put a pee pad in it and presto ...it worked. they have several beds so it is not like this one is for sleeping in. now they go to the pad most of the time. i think it is the stepping into something that helped.

porkieyorkie 03-14-2006 07:17 PM
OMG are you seriously gonna isolate him just because he pees on your carpet. Didnt you think it through prior to getting a small dog. Honey, their bladders are very tiny and even though they pee once doesnt mean that they wont have to pee in the next couple of minutes. If you are so worried about his frequent urination, take him to the vet. Could be a UTI! STOP ISOLATING HIM FOR SOMETHING HE CANT HELP!!! Would you do the same to a child!?! Geeewhizzz! :mad:

myriamha 03-14-2006 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ldenise
try the belly band method. at least it will save your carpet.

I don't care about the carpet i just want him to learn to go on the pad on his own.

ldenise 03-14-2006 07:18 PM
How old is he?

LaviniaHyacynth 03-14-2006 07:20 PM
Please,please,please...never hit your puppy. Besides ruining your relationship and derailing your training efforts...you could hurt him in a fit of anger. I once had a golden retriever that was hit often while training and she would squint and cower everytime you tried to pet her. It was really sad. Count to ten the next time you lose control.

myriamha 03-14-2006 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by porkieyorkie
OMG are you seriously gonna isolate him just because he pees on your carpet. Didnt you think it through prior to getting a small dog. Honey, their bladders are very tiny and even though they pee once doesnt mean that they wont have to pee in the next couple of minutes. If you are so worried about his frequent urination, take him to the vet. Could be a UTI! STOP ISOLATING HIM FOR SOMETHING HE CANT HELP!!! Would you do the same to a child!?! Geeewhizzz! :mad:
Thats what i thought uti and took him to the vet nothing is wrong with him, he just enjoys peeing on the carpet :mad:

myriamha 03-14-2006 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ldenise
How old is he?

He is 5 months old.

mylittletigger 03-14-2006 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by myriamha
I have him since dec 31 and the breeder told me that he is trained to go on pads but obliously she was lying .

Or obviously he has recently switched homes and may still be adjusting. I know it's been a few months but anything's possible.

myriamha 03-14-2006 07:24 PM
Well now he doesnt seem to be scared ashe is sitting on my lap and trying to lick my face, guess i had a bad day at work and really lost it , will go for a smoke instead next time he does that. :aimeeyork

porkieyorkie 03-14-2006 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by myriamha
Thats what i thought uti and took him to the vet nothing is wrong with him, he just enjoys peeing on the carpet :mad:
I really doubt he enjoys peeing on the carpet! Be patient and give him some time. DOgs are kinda like kids...when they get a big reaction out of you they tend to repeat themselves. It is really not a big deal! Chill out, and you also need to evaluate your relationship with this dog! Sounds to me like you are in a power struggle with yourself :mad: :rolleyes: !!!!!!!

Itspuppyluv 03-14-2006 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by myriamha
Thats what i thought uti and took him to the vet nothing is wrong with him, he just enjoys peeing on the carpet :mad:
This might be part of what is making you so angry. Dogs don't think like that, he will be just as happy to go on the pad once he understands.
He is only five months and you've only been training him for two and a half. You are expecting too much too soon.

bren 03-14-2006 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by myriamha
I have him since dec 31 and the breeder told me that he is trained to go on pads but obliously she was lying .
Not necessarily...When I got Max I was told that he was trained to go on newspaper. I even saw him go on the paper on his own when I was at the breeder's house. But wouldn't you know that when he arrived at my house the newspapers all of a sudden became his new chew toys. I even tried pee pads after that and he shredded those apart as well. Sometimes dogs don't generalize information that well when they are just learning new things. Just because they may use a pee pad appropriately in one room, doesn't mean that they will use it appropriately in another room of the same house. Especially if they are not taught. It just takes patience and time. Abbie is a year younger than Max and was housebroken within a year(~8-9 months). Max is 2 1/2 years old and still has accidents...but we're still working at it

porkieyorkie 03-14-2006 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Itspuppyluv
This might be part of what is making you so angry. Dogs don't think like that, he will be just as happy to go on the pad once he understands.
He is only five months and you've only been training him for two and a half. You are expecting too much too soon.
I agree! Raising anything takes patience and understanding! Take a deep breath and try a hot bath and a good cry! Releases the stress...it always works for me!

Princess Zoe 03-14-2006 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by myriamha
Thats what i thought uti and took him to the vet nothing is wrong with him, he just enjoys peeing on the carpet :mad:
You talk like your puppy thinks like a human and just enjoys irritating you. Dogs think very differently than we do. He wouldn't pee on the carpet out of defiance..... he pees on the carpet for other reasons. Perhaps you aren't cleaning up his pee good enough and he can still smell it... which will make him continue to go in that place. Maybe he is just confused for whatever reason and just needs more time and patience. Maybe the breeder really didn't train him and now you are trying to compensate for the lack of training to begin with. When I got Zoe, she was almost 5 mths. old. Her owner worked full time and Zoe was left at home alone all day to hopefully pee on a pad. She wasn't worked with at all. She has been difficult to train, but I know that eventually she will get it. It's not worth it to get mad at a dog.... they are innocent. If they don't understand, then we need to help them to understand. They don't do things to tick us off on purpose.

Itspuppyluv 03-14-2006 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by myriamha
Well now he doesnt seem to be scared ashe is sitting on my lap and trying to lick my face, guess i had a bad day at work and really lost it , will go for a smoke instead next time he does that. :aimeeyork
See, how can you hit something that is so full of unconditional love. Go for the smoke next time, you will both be the happier for it.

ldenise 03-14-2006 07:31 PM
give him time, he is just begining. one day it seems like it cant' get any worse, then the next day it is like they totally get what you want them to do. believe me I have gotten pretty frustrated my self from time to time. they really do just want to please you. step back and get control of your self before you lose it totally with him. I am sure you don't want to hurt him or make it worse. There will be a lot of cleaning up to do before it is all over. Just look into those lovely little eyes and tell him you will wait for him to get it. he soon will.

porkieyorkie 03-14-2006 07:33 PM
I checked out your doggster profile and he is adorable! How could you stay mad at something that cute! I would melt just looking at him!

myriamha 03-14-2006 07:36 PM
Well i love my dog to death he goes to the best vet, the best groomer, i spend a fortune on toys, its just that i lost it today . :(

judyonlypooh 03-14-2006 07:40 PM
I have read they say to startle (spelling) them if you catch them peeing in the wrong spot then pick them up and put them on the pad. We give zoey a treat and have a party everytime she goes on the pee pad so she remembers the treat I guess. I also use the spay they sell on the pads also. ZOey is now running into her pen to go on pad but we still Never leave her unattended and watch her all the time. It takes time....it'll get better. :)

MeganS 03-14-2006 07:40 PM
How old is he? you need to be patient! Rubbing their noses in it does not make them understand what they did wrong, it makes them think they shouldn't be going at all. And you should never ever, under any circumstances, hit your dog. He didn't know what he was doing. Yorkies have proven to be very very hard to housebreak. Tucker is nearly a year old and still has accidents in the house. we all lose it sometimes, you just have to try to be patient with him. he'll get it eventually!

Princess Zoe 03-14-2006 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by myriamha
Well i love my dog to death he goes to the best vet, the best groomer, i spend a fortune on toys, its just that i lost it today . :(
I can tell that you are a good yorkie mommy from your past threads about how you hand prepare all of his healthy food. I'm sure he knows you love him. Patience really is key here..... otherwise we would ALL be cracking up! :) Good luck :)

porkieyorkie 03-14-2006 07:42 PM
I dont mean to offend you but just because you show him monitary/material affection doesnt make up for the emotional things ( such as isolation/not socializing with him). You have got to look at it from all aspects of care! Just like a child....even the kids who get all the material things in the world suffer if they arent emotionally cared for.

judyonlypooh 03-14-2006 07:42 PM
OHHHHHHH I looked at Royces picture you have on Dogster.....how could you ever get mad at that adorable baby....What a sweetie....... ;)

luvmyorkie 03-14-2006 08:54 PM
I Do Feel Your Pain
 
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Originally Posted by myriamha
And if he pees again on the carpet well too bad he will spend the rest of the day gated, no playing nothing , i have had enough of this :mad: :mad:
I know you are tired, frustrated and at your wit's end, you just want to throw up both your hands and scream!! Plus, your house ends up smelling like pee-pee and you're not aware that your house smells like that because you've gotten immune to it. Carpet is absolutely ruined.

There are no easy answers..... :confused:


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