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I need some help on separation anxiety quickly We brough our new puppy home on Saturday so he's only been here about 3 days now. For the most part he's great. Loves to play, loves to snuggle, ect. However when we put him away while we're not activity engaging with him he goes nuts. Whines, cries, howls, screams, yells, ect. I have never encountered a puppy who is this bad. We do have him in our master bathroom with the door open and a babygate across the door. He has his food/water, potty pad, toys, doggie bed. But anytime we put him in there with the gate closed so we can leave or eat dinner or what, it's constant banging on the gate, screaming, howls, ect. I know we're not supposed to acknowledge it so he doesn't learn that doing that behavior gets a response. So we've let him go at it. Sometimes he stops after a bit but it's been getting longer and longer until he does. Last night we played and played with him hard hoping to tucker him out so he would just fall asleep and be done. Even that didn't work, He literally did it for over 2 hours at which point my husband, who was getting very pissed at this point, took him out and put him in bed with us. I know, big no no, but we had to work and have already gotten some...not complaints, yet from the neighbors, but comments, where you can tell they aren't happy about the noise since we're in a condo. I imagine it won't be far until we actually receive a complaint if he doesn't stop. Husband even said maybe this isn't a good idea having him for a dog right now. I know he's a puppy and we're trying to be patient but it cannot go on this way. We just took him to the vet and he is in perfect health so it's not a physical issue. She even commented on how well behaved he is as he was just sitting on our laps most of the time except for the exam when he was a happy go lucky puppy. I'm going to get one of those heartbeat toys and give him an old shirt that I wore last two nights but if it's in this bed or close by and he's at the gate crying and banging I don't know how that will work. But he cannot keep this up. |
How old is he? He would be better if he could see you when he is being contained. You would be better off setting up a play pen in your main area for when you are eating dinner and such. Then use a crate at night where he can see you in bed. I pup was separated from his mom to early and he separation anxiety so bad that just being in the bathroom with me was not enough and he would get in the shower with me. He eventually got better but he follows me around everywhere. What your describing is pretty normal and not necessarily separation anxiety. With all of mine even in the crate at night there was crying and it took a week or two for them to get into the system. I don’t want to come off as mean or anything but when you get a puppy or dog it should be yours forever even if it means orking through hard stuff. 3 days is not a long time for him to get used to everything and this really sounds like normal new puppy stuff. |
Sorry for the crazy post. Was just so frustrated and my stress level was about 15 out of 10 plus with the husband and neighbors it was a mess. So good news. We already had a playpen ordered which came Monday. Spent Monday evening getting him used it it, playing in and around it. Then yesterday I put him in there while I was sitting on the couch. He did whine for a few minutes but no freakouts and settled down just fine. Then later in the evening husband and I put him in there since we had to go to a few stores. He went right now, no noise or anything. We got back and were talking, moving around so he knew we were home but didn't go into the living room and he didn't make a sound and was fine. So I think we're going to nix the bathroom plan and just keep him in the playpen when we're not home or engaging with him. As far as the night time part, he slept with us again last night. The plan was to do that eventually anyway but once he was potty trained. But 2 nights in a row and no accidents. I get up 2, 3, 4 times a night so when I got up at 2am and again at 330am I woke him up to pee on his pad and took him back to bed where he went right back to sleep. Then at 430am he woke up and started pacing around the bed so husband took him to the pad and he did his business so that's a relief. I'm sure there could be an accident but I think with me getting up and getting him up we should be okay and he can continue to sleep with us. He really is getting the potty thing down. Went all day yesterday with no accidents and hit the pad (or close enough as his paws were on it but not his winkie) so we count that as a win. It is normal puppy stuff I was wasn't prepared as I never had a puppy act that nuts before and husband had never had a dog every so he really wasn't prepared I guess even though I was telling him ahead of time that they are just like babies and don't know or understand things etc. I think we'll be okay now...I know I am feeling much better. Husband did stay to work from home today ( I worked from home monday and took yesterday off) so tomorrow will be his first home alone day. But we do have a rover person coming on thurs and fris to visit and socialize and let him stretch is paws and have a friend who'll be coming over on mons-weds for the same. Just for a month or two until he gets comfortable being home alone. |
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Dog is home Dogs just want to be by their owners. He would be in the bed by me. Sounds like a very lovable little pup! |
Puppies are prone to get separation anxiety after going to a new house, so you should ease his fear and help him to build confidence and trust by frequent petting, training, and daily walks that help him get familiar to the nearby environment. However, sleeping with your pup at night could increase his separation anxiety. You could install a baby gate at your room, so he can watch you through the door. |
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I just went through what you are going through, so I totally get it!! My puppy will be 6 months next week. We crate him when we leave the house and the biggest lesson I learned was to cover the crate when we leave. Not fully so he can see out a little. He seems to like that it is dark and den-like. We never leave him in there more than three hours though. I work from home so he has free reign while I am working. He will go into his crate to sleep while I am working, so he is not afraid of it. Our puppy also sleeps in our bed. At the beginning he would wake us up when he wanted to go potty. Now he sleeps through the night just fine. The only time he had an accident in our bed was when he was sick with some GI issues. We then put a belly band around him until we were confident he was better. |
I realize this original post is old, but what is described is my exact situation. Living in an apartment with a 9 week old puppy that is extremely loud and has a fit in both her play pen and her crate. I cannot let her do it because my complex does not normally allow dogs, but she is an ESA, so she is an exception, but they cannotcreate excess noise or else. I live on the top floor with no neighbors on either side. But we have neighbors below us that have resorted to knocking on their ceiling whenever Coco whines. And this is after just a few minutes of it🙄. I put her in her playpen to cook dinner last night and she immediately started to whine. 5 minutes later, the knocking begin. It's so frustrating because I can't properly train her with this type of scrutiny nor can I move. I have essentially been her prisoner for nearly 3 weeks, but I desperately need a plan for when no one is home for stretches. Can't afford a dog sitter. My previous Yorkies LOVED their playpens and considered it her safe place. Coco seems to think that being in either confined area is pure hell. And keeping her in her playpen at night is definitely not an option at this point since I will probably get evicted from all the complaints that will flood the rental office. I need a plan, STAT!!! |
I have never crated or confined a puppy with all that I have had while I was home, I confined them to a small area while I was at work, when I was home they were out but in the area I was in so they could be watched, so I am not an expert on crates or play pens. However there are members that do use them. Is it possible to have the playpen in the room you are in, if they can see you this will usually quiet them down. It is when they cannot see you they start whining and howling. |
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Great idea to give a gift basket to the downstairs neighbors. In regards to her seeing me while in her playpen, it's weird because she actually wails louder when she can see me like "Let me the hell out of here Mom!" I take her with me when I do school runs, but taking her to work may prove to be difficult. I am in pharmaceutical sales, so I am suppose to be in and out of doctors offices all day. Until she has had all of her shots, I just don't feel comfortable taking her in the field with me just yet. She is an ESA, so I may not get much push back, but she is not an official service dog, so I may not be able to take her all the time. I had to go to a work lunch today in about a town 40 minutes away. My daughters boyfriend stepped in and dog sat, but I told him to leave her in her playpen and see how long she wails for. I was gone for about 2 1/2 hours and he said she cried for "a long time." No idea what a long time is to a 20 year old kid, but if it was longer than 5 minutes, that's long enough. Not as concerned during the day about the noise because most people are at work. Not sure about the neighbors downstairs, and if they are home during the day, but it doesn't really matter at this point. She also got VERY aggressive tonight and I had to calm her down a bit because she was really hurting me. She just ignores the word no no matter what its attached to, like, "no biting." Or "Ouch." It's like she is spurred on to bite harder or her get more crazy. I have had many dogs theoughout my life and I have never seen anything like this! |
Ok so lets back up here for a moment. It is advised a puppy stays with it's mom and litter mates until they are 13 weeks old. In this time the mom teaches her babies many things, one being bite inhibition, the litter mates play a big part in this teaching process also, they are taught when biting is to hard by mom and litter mates. Being taken away from mom and litter mates can cause anxiety in some pups. So lets take it from here, your baby is 10 weeks old, she was taken from mom to early thus the hard biting, and separation anxiety. Now you have to take on the roll of yorkie mom and teach her when biting is to hard. Always have a toy handy when she gets crazy, out of control and biting, give her the toy to bite. Keep in mind she is only alive only 70 days, she wasn't born with knowledge, this world is new and exciting and she is a wild thing that now has to be taught how to be civilized, the mom would have taught her that, also the breeder would have started pad training the puppies. Because the breeder didn't want the extra work she sells the puppies to soon. Now you have to be the teacher. You must have a lot of patience with the puppy praising and high value treats when she does what you want, no yelling, hollering when she does something wrong, but do correct her in a positive way. You cannot take her to work with you until she has had all of her vaccines. To be a ESA you need a letter from a doctor or psychiatrist, you should keep a copy of this letter on you in case you are asked for proof. You cannot just say the dog is a ESA. I am sure you needed something to show your housing the dog is ESA if no dogs are permitted. The dog also has to be properly trained to behave under all circumstances and conditions around her, in other words, she has to be a good fur citizen. You cannot compare her with other dogs or other yorkies you may had had, they are not clones, each have their own personalities, no two are alike personality wise. So, you have a lot of work before you, work on one issue at a time, she is to young to have a lot of bad issues corrected piled on her at one time. Terriers have a short concentration span, work with her no longer then 5 to 7 minutes, after 7 minutes they are no longer focused on you or training. |
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For separation anxiety - after a YEAR of nothing working we did two weeks of crate training, starting with as low as 10 seconds in the crate with a door closed and me walking out of the apartment, working in short sessions, not allowing him to panic or get anxious, lots or treats, lots of praise, extending the time a little every time (a first from 10 sec to 15, then to 30 etc etc). It might sound like a lot of work, but after two weeks Mike was able to stay in the crate for up to 3 hr no problem, now he just sleeps in there. For a year he was crying, whining, barking and howling the entire time I was out, so that was such a big relief. I don't have a neighbour problem here but knowing he was distressed and scared was breaking my heart every time. Your girl is very young and her attention spam is very short. Try bringing her with you whenever you can and make sure her time in the crate if fun and safe. If she is anxious like my Mike - you can also cover the sides of the crate with a breathable cloth/blanket so it makes the crate more cozy and she can only see whats in front of it. Leave her with a kong stuffer with some soft treat to lick on. If she can handle a little space, maybe a playpen will work better for her. Stick with one option and train her little by little. Good luck. |
Wow! Wtf?!? Well, good morning to me🤬. Ok... this is why I am extremely frustrated by my earlier posts/threads not being uploaded because it explains ALOT about my situation, but instead, I am starting to feel like I am being puppy mom shamed. I suffer from Major Depressive disorder and severe Generalized Anxiety disorder that is well documented considering my multiple stays in the hospital. Do I have a letter from my psychiatrist, who was the one who educated me about what an ESA is... you bet your ass I do. And one from my therapist and Behavioral Health Specialist through my insurance. Also, an entire packet that I had to get signed by my psychiatrist, my therapist, the vet and a copy of her license from San Jose Animal control. So yes, she is a TRUE ESA dog in training and no I would never just SAY she is an ESA, so I hope that clears things up for you Matese. Also, in regards to getting her too early, I had absolutely no choice in the matter since she was gifted to me. I also suspect that the breeder needed the cash sooner rather than later. And I am glad my ex did not pass up this opportunity to get her just because she was young. There are very few breeder in this part of California, and I wanted another Yorkie since they are hypoallergenic and wanted to raise one from puppy stage to train for the ESA and eventually become a therapy dog. I have seen first hand the sheer power that a therapy dog can have in soothing a person suffering from mental illness, both with my previous boy as well as through 4Paws that visited the psych wing in the hospital at Stanford I was in this past January. In regards to comparing the Yorkies, they are the same breed, and I understand that like humans, they have different personalities. Saying that "they are clones" is an insult to my intelligence. I am not an idiot! My previous Yorkies were three years apart, but I got them at the proper age and did not have to experience the bulk of what I am experiencing now. I understand that, which is why I joined this forum in the first place. For advice... and the fact that it had been 7 years since I last experienced the puppy stage, and never this young. Boo Bear and Bella were 10 weeks when I brought them home and after just a few days, they were just fine. All I was asking for was advice versus criticism when people don't know the full story or my circumstances. I don't know if you have human children or not matese, but I have 4. And just like animals, of course they are not clones. But any parent that says they don't compare their children, whether it be how different the pregnancies were, or how they behaved at a certain age, etc would be lying. It completely natural to expect similar mannerism from the exact breed of dog. All breeds have similarities that are well documented. Doesn't mean that they are "clones" of one another. Nor would I expect that. I appreciate the advice given thus far, but please ask me rather than assuming what my situation is, what I have or haven't tried. All of us on here have Yorkies, so if ANY ONE decides to say some crap like "adopt don't shop" or some other high horse crap, I will legit lose it. Sorry, but these responses to my very basic concerns have me a bit pissed at the moment. My anxiety makes me EXTREMELY sensitive, so maybe this is not the place for me. Thanks. PS She has had a crate and playpen since day 1 and a crap ton of toys, chewy items, etc. and yes, I have tried or am currently trying all of the suggestions that were mentioned. I was well prepared and have spent a load of money trying to get everything she needs or would help the situation. Also, I don't live alone, so making sure that teens are consistent with how they react to her is not an easy task. I am trying here people! This too shall pass, but I don't want to be made to feel bad for wanting advice or asking questions. But some how, that is exactly how I feel right now. |
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Dogs, especially for a new puppy, do not perform well in adapting a new living environment, compared with getting used to a new owner. So, it's normal for your boy to depend on you all day. The first thing you should do is to build up his courage and confidence. For example, lead your pup (on a leash) to the places around your house. It allows your puppy to sniff and get familiar with everything near his new home. It's better to find places without too many people, animals, or noise, so he can reduce the alert to "communicate" with different scents and sounds. If he behaves calmly without fear, you would give him some treats to reward today's job. This process may cost about one week or more. Walking him outside more than 30 minutes before sleep time can consume lots of energy and help your boy sleep much soundly at night. However, sleeping with your pup could increase his anxiety. Therefore, it's better to put him into a crate or separate it by a baby gate, but let him see you through the "fence". If you have to leave home for work in the day, I suggest you prepare somethings to waste the time and distract the tension, such as putting some treats in the Kong and playing music. See more tips below: http://bit.ly/how-to-deal-with-dog-separation-anxiety |
Sounds like some good advice. Keep us posted. |
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