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03-08-2012, 06:21 PM | #1 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Barrie, ON, Canada
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| I'm doing this wrong...and he's too smart! Ok, so my 16 week old puppy has learned that when Mommy tells him to *leave it* and he does, he gets a treat. So what he has begun doing is intentionally doing something that he knows will get a *leave it* from me so that he can listen and get his treat... And he will do this over and over, clever little man! So how do I deal with this? |
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03-08-2012, 06:25 PM | #2 |
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| OMG that is too cute. You got a little stinker on your hands lol |
03-09-2012, 11:45 AM | #3 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Barrie, ON, Canada
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| I know, eh? It's cute but it gets repetitive and I don't want to reward him for continuing behavior that I don't want! But he still needs to get rewarded for listening... I'm not sure how to handle it! |
03-09-2012, 12:49 PM | #4 |
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| Maybe if you only reward once, he'll get the point? He's smart and he knows what he's doing. If you tell him no, after he's been warned, I'd think that might be sufficient enough...or time out in the crate.
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03-12-2012, 07:13 PM | #5 |
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| I am just now seeing this - First off, I think this is too cute and kind of funny actually - smart little guy you have there. I presume when you say "leave it" and he drops whatever he has, you follow up with lots of "good boy!" and then a treat.... if this is the case, I would start cutting out the treat and just reward with a "good boy" and occasionally give him a treat. If you are not saying "good boy" after he drops whatever, you need to start and continue to treat a few times and then wean the treats. Good luck! Sounds like you have a tough little cookie there.
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03-12-2012, 08:29 PM | #6 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Snoqualmie, WA, USA
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| Ha ha -welcome to my world :-) Gracie does the same thing. I'll take the same advice and see if it works. She also "fake" pees to get a treat - she makes sure she has my attention then squats but .. nothing. It's all a big show! We call her a treat "whore" (pardon my language) because she'll do anything for treat. Fortunately she's tiny and we give her teeny, teeny treats so she won't overeat and get fat. But what a stinker! |
03-12-2012, 09:05 PM | #7 |
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| I agree, it is time to change things as he's not learning some actions are bad/unwanted but has instead learned that doing them must be good since eventually they bring a reward. To solve that, say the "Leave It" firmly and with some force now, without a smile or happy voice(of course, don't scare him with shouting or a mean-sounding voice), and then you can say "Good Boy" in your happy, squeaky, smiley voice when he drops it or backs off as you stop treating every time and just reward with the big praise in between treating. After a while, praise every drop/back off but treat only occasionally. And when I said "praise", I mean it. Look in his eyes and really connect with him - let him know you are pleased as punch with him - and keep looking at him and smiling as you praise as you are transitioning from the treat. Later, you can praise less effusively but he will still associate it with that real great connection you have made with earlier praising. He's presently attached the actions that lead to the reward to the whole exercise without getting the real message yet that the thing or behavior he is being told to leave is a bad or unwanted thing. A big part of the "Leave It" training is to give the dog the definite idea that what they are currently doing is wrong, wrong, wrong BUT that the separate action of dropping the item or backing away is good, good, good and that action only is what they are being rewarded for. In addition to the "Leave It" training, I take my dogs to items I have told them to "Leave" before and showed it to them, saying "bad....bad...Leave It" in a firm, no-nonsense voice and praising when they do back away and then we walk away quickly together. This has reinforced the idea that certain things around the house or yard are not good and must be avoided all the time. Train "Leave It" as if his life depended on it. If it is a Nitroglycerin pill your dog has on the tip of its tongue and you say "Leave It", you definitely want him to know that what he is presently doing is very wrong but that, just as he's been taught, as soon as he does spit it out, his happy, smiling mommie will praise and love him for that action. With an ultra-fast-dissolving pill like Nitro, you literally have no time for games as that pill will start to dissolve into his little system sometimes within moments, especially if his tongue is very wet, and very quickly drop his blood pressure to nothing and a dog that will know he's doing wrong but wants to do right fast and make his mommie happy will want to get rid of that bad thing quickly. It will save his life. And before long he will not as readily take another pill in his mouth and hopefully, soon, not at all. And he will eventually further get the idea that even getting the pill in his mouth was not a good thing at all and that's the big lesson the "Leave It", when trained properly, can teach a dog. They begin to associate the "Leave It" with the things they have had to drop or back away from or the behavior at the moment and begin to actually begin to learn not to do that due to the unwanted, firm "Leave It" command that quickly comes. So just change up how you are training and be very different in the way you issue the command from how you praise reward and when you give the treats. Good luck!
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03-16-2012, 10:52 AM | #8 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Barrie, ON, Canada
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| Thanks everyone! I am taking your advice with him and it's getting better... He is so smart! Probably the most intelligent dog I've ever had! He is a challenge but a good one... Wish me luck! |
03-16-2012, 11:54 AM | #9 |
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| With an intelligent dog like that I advise lots of mental exercise to stimulate his mind. He may get easily bored and become destructive which you don't want that. I suggest looking into interactive toys and lots of physical exercise. Young pups have lots of energy to expense |
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