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09-11-2013, 12:57 PM | #1 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Toronto, Canada
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| troubleshooting: learning to hold it! - no more pee pads I have a housebreaking problem. My Yorkie just turned 1 on Aug 8th, and he is a really good boy all around. We have 1 issue; he was using pee pads regularly, but he would also use our rug sometimes(which is now in the garbage), or rugs at my inlaws etc. We tried various ways to get him to stop, and nothing worked. This spring (when he was 9 months) we made him a porch potty-like box to put on the deck outside of the sliding door, with fake grass and a drain etc. He took to using it right away. We even taught him to use a bell to let us know when he has to go out. He sleeps in his crate at night, holding it for 8-10 hours. During the day if we have him in the crate for a few hours, he holds it. If he is in his play pen during the day, even sometimes for 7 hours, he holds it. Our issue is that when he would be loose in the house, and you go to the bathroom, or to change the laundry, or to the car because you forgot something, and he rings the bell, if someone doesn’t let him out, he pees or poops on the floor. This includes if we have just let him out a few times that morning already. We took away the bell thinking that it is because he believes he can go out on command. Now he goes to the door and cries for us to let him out, and it’s the same thing. Now I am wondering if we ruined him with the pee pads and thinking he can go whenever he wants and shouldn’t hold it. When we catch him in the act, we tell him No, and put him outside on his potty patch. If we are with him 24/7 and you let him out he has no accidents. What are we doing wrong? |
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09-12-2013, 12:48 PM | #2 |
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| Is he neutered? If he has nobody to let him out when he has to go, you can’t really blame him. It really isn't a good idea to make them hold their pee/poo. These little guys have small bladders and having them hold it can cause major health issues down the road. Can you make him an area at night where he can sleep and get up to pee if need be? From experience, I use to crate Peanut at night. He loves his crate, but obviously if he needed to go he would have to hold it, once in a while he would whine if he had to go, but that was hardly. Now we just put the gate up in our doorway so he has our room to roam, we leave a pad for him. I have noticed he does get up in the middle of the night to pee- he will even drink water in the middle of the night. Now that I think of it I would hate to hold my bathroom breaks for 8- 10 hours.. could you imagine?? That would be painful, so I don’t think we should make our pets hold it that long.. a hour-2 hour Ok, but even then I wouldn't make that a habit. They should have an option to go, if they have to. Can you put a doggy door in? That way he can go when he needs to? We finally put a doggy door in. DH bought a dog run and connected it to the house, so when he goes out of his doggy door ( with a top) he is enclosed. We have tons of hawks, and coyotes so he has to be protected. When we are at work he is locked in our room, with a pee pad. So no matter what he has the option to potty. Maybe put a pad out for him.. if you are not around and he has to go he can use his pad? Peanut is a rug marker. I heard if they are pad trained they will not know the difference between a pad and a bathroom rug.. if this is true, I don’t really know. However we do have to keep the bathroom doors shut bc he will pee on the rugs!
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09-12-2013, 04:43 PM | #3 |
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| I agree. I would feel bad if Jess had to hold it, even for a few hours. We got a larger crate so she can sleep and get up to pee if she wants (she almost always does) she doesn't pee on the rugs. well very occasionally and we have white rugs. She knows where to go. Even when she had the runs she ran to her pad.. |
09-12-2013, 05:33 PM | #4 |
YT 2000 Club Member | dog My two boys were trained on pee pee pads. JoJo the younger one will just pee on a blanket in his bed or on a nice soft pad I paid $20.00 for. Why doesn't he just go out the dog door like he has learned after a puppy. Just lifts that leg when I am not there, probably mad at me and pees on his bed blanket. I must wash every day cuz he pees on that. |
09-13-2013, 01:26 PM | #5 |
YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Boston MA
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| get rid of that blanket. Even washing he prob. smells pee and thinks its a pee pad...I had to throw out a few with Jess at first. She did the same thing. My suggestion is by cheap ones form the dollar store for now or buy a bolt of fleece. That's what I did. Just tossed the piece she peed on. Cut a new one |
09-15-2013, 05:22 PM | #6 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Toronto, Canada
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| Thank you for the replies, but my issue is not overnight. He sleeps all night and is just fine in his crate. If he has had a late dinner, he might whine in the night, and we get up and let him out. The issue is that when I am home with him, I leave the room to use the bathroom, and I come back and he has peed on the floor. He won't hold it for the 30 seconds that I need to go and pee myself. If he has got to go, he would ring the bell at the door, wait a total of 10 seconds before peeing on the floor. I let him out every 1.5 hours to 2 hours. I am not making him hold it. My question was, those of you who have transitioned from pee pads to going outside, how do you get your dog to understand that he can no longer just pee immediately as he feels he needs to, and instead has to hold it until you make it outside? People who don't use pee pads, have perfectly trained dogs who can hold it for the extra 30 seconds after they "ring the bell" or "bark at the door" or whatever? |
09-25-2013, 12:16 PM | #7 |
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| Sounds to me like he is just scared that when you leave his sight, that you are going away longer than a 30 sec pee break. When he loses sight of you, he rings the bell because he knows that usually you come right away, let him out and everyone is happy. I don't think it has anything to do with actually having to pee. If I am in the house, mine has to be beside me at all times, 30 pee break or not Just my two cent take on it.
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09-25-2013, 01:30 PM | #8 | |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Since I posted this I have started crating him, if I have to leave the room, or change the laundry (4 story townhouse - and he won't go down stairs on his own, only up). Hopefully I will wake up one day and he will be potty trained! Sigh! | |
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