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Maximo 06-02-2010 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mom to Hot Rod (Post 3150192)
In my opinion, you little guy is way too young to limit foods and water. At 11 weeks, he should be being fed at least 4x a day if not free feeding. His blood sugar can drop very quickly--especially at 2 lbs. You have to visualize the size of his stomach and think about just how much food he can eat at one time, not a whole lot at all. His little stomach is probably the size of a dime.

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I was wrong and contradicted myself when I suggested holding all food after a certain hour -- was thinking about older, larger dogs. Although it really isn't necessary even then.

capt_noonie 06-02-2010 02:18 PM

My notes in blue below.

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Originally Posted by Ladylavender (Post 3149850)
You may have gotten the "smallest" crate, but it is still to big for your 11 wk yorkie. You must fill the back of the crate so that there is very little room in the front of the crate. The dog should only be big enough to stand, turn around and lie down. No extra corner or room to potty in.

No water after 7pm. pick it up. Feed only 2 x per day (1st thing in the a.m. and around dinner time in the p.m.), to limit the amount of pooping. Millie used to poop only 2 x per day, when fed on a schedule. Take your dog for an evening walk around 7 - 8pm (since sun is still up).
Pups this young need to be fed small meals 4-5 times a day, not 2. Again, a pup this young has not had all it's shots and most definitely NOT be taking for a walk outside. Backyard is ok if it is totally secure and you know no other dogs have been back there on squeezed in between the fence.

At bed at 9:30pm after you take him out to pee. (if you have to be outside for 10 mins to 1/2 hour, you need to stay out there with him until he goes. If he does not go, you need to put him in the crate and in 10 mins take him out again, and continue you this until he goes. (it is hard work, but must be done, to get your little one understand what you want. After a few night of this he will "get it". You need to continue to repeat your "potty word" until he goes.

He should only have to go 1-2 times afterwards, during the night (he is still small with a small bladder). If he whines in the crate, get him out and immediately take him outside to potty. It should not take him long, but if it does, you need to stay out there until he goes. No playing, just keep refocusing him to potty. You may want to point him in the area he has potty before to stimulate him. After he goes back in the crate. You will lose a lot of sleep during this phase, but it is important you keep this regime up, because you want to be successful. When you put him back in the crate and he has gone outside, it's ok to let him cry. (This is hard too). In a few hours if he cries/whines again, take him out, again as before.

You need to take him on 2 walks per day. about 15 mins and then he needs some play time, every day, where you sit on the floor and have him chase a ball or a toy.

During the day, If you are home and you were not clear on this, you will have him on a schedule. A schedule to eat, play and potty. in the a.m., out of the crate, goes from an a.m. walk, he eats and within 10-15mins he goes outside to potty, again and you stay out there until he does go. If he goes (which he should if you are out there long enough) then he gets play time outside the crate, you must watch him and be with him during this time and playing with him. If he does not go, back in the crate for 10 minutes and then out again to go potty. He gets play time only if he goes potty.

after he gets his playtime and his early walk, he should be tired (he is only 11 wks after all) and can go back in the crate to sleep. When he wakes up, outside to potty. Don't let him back in until he does. He should pretty quickly because he has been sleeping and his bladder should be full. It might take 10-30mins. But you MUST stay out there. If he will not go after a while, you will need to put him back in the crate and after 10 mins take him outside and start up the potty routine again. After potty, he gets free time to play and once again you must be there for him. You could keep in in a play area, but there is no guarantee that he will not potty during sometime when you are not looking.

Unfortunately, potty training will consume your life for about 4-5 months. (it should get a little easier when he catches on what you expect of him. POTTY TRAINING WILL REQUIRE MORE PARTICIPATION ON YOUR PART THAN HIS. You will be more trained than him. At some point, he will finally "get it" and start asking to go out on his own. Unfortunately, he may be 9-10 months before that happens, but if you keep up the work, it will so be worth it in the long run. you will have a well adjusted housebroken dog that you will never have clean up after again and will be a pleasure to own.

To op, I personally would not limit water either, in a pup so young, i wouldn't risk it. Your pup should have still been with mamma when you got him. that's why he's crying, he doesn't want to be alone. Dogs like to sleep with their pack, and though many people don't allow their dogs to sleep in their bedrooms, that's what the dogs want, even if on the floor in the crate and not up in the bed. Also if you keep him in your room, you can notice the warning signs he needs to go.

When I got Uni i put a bell on her collar (still do) and when she moved even the slightest bit in the middle of the night, I woke up and took her to try to pee. I did this several times a night for weeks and was consistent. She was potty trained by the time she was 5 months.

You've only put in a bit over 2 weeks, you still have a long way to go. You have to be consistent. With whatever method you choose to try, really try at it for a few months before you say you give up and try something else. it takes time for them to get it, and if you give up too soon and try something else, you will just confuse him more.

mscat 06-02-2010 05:10 PM

the whole idea about crate training is that a pup is not going to pee or poo where she sleeps ... or eats. at least that is the theory. Your pup wants out of there afterwards and be with you .
My suggestion would be an expen with pee pads , and have your little one closer to you.
I honestly had no problems with my two when they were puppies using the pee pads , sometimes slip ups would occur , but no big deal. When my Shih tzu was brand new , she was so small she could fit in my hand. I slept on the couch for the next few months with her laying on the carpet right next to me. SHe caught on right away where the pee pads were and what they were for thanks to my yorkie .
Neither of my pups had their food or water withheld . I believe it is wrong to do that esp. in such a tiny puppy . the smaller they are the moer food they need to eat , and potty , pee.
My yorkie is now over 2yrs old and goes potty both on the pee pads and outside , but she is older . The shih tzu uses the pads always , and is just over a yr old. Never any problems , no crying , or anything .
Patience and consistency is what it takes to fully train a dog. esp when so young and small.
hang in there !

zekie's mom 06-02-2010 06:10 PM

I closed mine in the kitchen during the day and had him sleep with me at night. The minute he stirred, I took him out to potty. During the day, I took him out at last once every hour, right after he ate, and right after a play period. He is both paper trained and outside trained. He is also trained to use a tap bell when he needs to go out. For some strange reason, he won't poop in the house, will only pee on occasion.

I got Zeke when he was 8 weeks old and 2#. He was an only child and very much ready to come to his new home. It took him maybe two hours to adjust.

maggiecc 06-08-2010 01:29 PM

I suggest putting them in the room with you right next to your bed with a blanket over the kennel and when they cry you can tap the top so they know you're there and say a word such as "quiet". They will eventually wear out and since they are right next to you they can hear you there but it's dark in their kennel so they should recognize that it's night time. The minute you hear that the pup is awake, you take them outside and make sure you associate a word such as "potty" and give them a lot of praise for going outside then come right back in and put them in the kennel.
I try to play with my pup right before bed to tire her. I got Winnie at 8 weeks and we first had her in our room in a corner and she could see us but the next week when i moved her next to me with the blanket she slept 8 hours and has since but with a potty break in the middle of the night. I would make sure your dog has a schedule. She's 15 weeks now and sleeps though the night. I never take her water or food away from her. She is kenneled while I am at work in the morning then a lunch break and she goes back in the kennel. I do use her food as treats to make sure she is eating. Also we trained her on a bell to go outside. Good luck!


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